IEGeek
4th February 2005, 10:30 AM
I am going to try and post this for some feedback on Process Auditing for our TS system. I have created an interactive PDF file, so that any idio---person in our organization assigned to the audit team can complete this.
Please let me know your thoughts comments or suggestions. Be kind this is a first pass
Thanks a million :thanx:
Howard Atkins
5th February 2005, 03:58 AM
I think that it is great but you will need to do a lot of training for the use.
As I see it everything is there but hidden and you would only know it by training e.g. I assume that in resources the intention is also to check the calibration status, it could easily be missed. Maybe you should add some more specifics. This would also help to show that you have covered these areas.
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IEGeek
7th February 2005, 10:11 AM
Thanks for the input, it does require a lot of training, but that is what we need. In the past it has all been check lists and no detail was ever provided, I am trying to get people to give input. Not just yes or no.
Paul Mc
7th February 2005, 11:49 AM
Internal auditing to the TS "Process approach", this is something we're trying to get our heads around:
1.we're looking to break our company down into "processes", how did you define yours?
2.then from the defined processes, develope a matrix with processes down one side and the TS elements across the top, x-ing those applicable for each process(thus ensuring that no elements have been missed using this process approach)
has anyone used this methodoly before to audit?
any comments/other ideas?
IEGeek
7th February 2005, 11:55 AM
That might possibly work, however to define your processes "be the pellet" so to speak. How does your company operate. Do customers call you to place an order? Then trace it from that.
Here is a sample of our process flow
Let me know your thoughts
Howard Atkins
13th March 2005, 02:14 AM
You should review the ISO 544 Standard which identifies the Plan-Do-Act methods to do process audits. This is required by the Registrar I do audits for.
Please can you check your reference as ISO 544 is the following standard
"Welding consumables -- Technical delivery conditions for welding filler materials -- Type of product, dimensions, tolerances and markings"
Jim Wynne
13th March 2005, 12:38 PM
Thanks for the input, it does require a lot of training, but that is what we need. In the past it has all been check lists and no detail was ever provided, I am trying to get people to give input. Not just yes or no.
Good for you! :applause:Make people actually think about what they're doing, and put it into words. Of course training is necessary, if it weren't you wouldn't need to design a form. I think your form is an excellent starting point, without knowing more about what you're doing specifically. If people don't understand the requirements and expectations of process auditing, they shouldn't be allowed to conduct audits.
Bob Ablondi
13th March 2005, 01:06 PM
Here is the correct reference