Hi all,
Haven't been around for a while - but where is Roxane? She's usually all over these boards by now...looks like she's been quiet for the last few weeks??
-R.

Haven't been around for a while Aha... The enginerd returns - Welcome back :bigwave: Roxy is definitely around. See here (http://elsmar.com/Forums/search.php?searchid=216020)

/Claes

Claes - That link won't work because it is a 'one time search' link...

I think she is in the 2nd stall. She's the one with the red shoes :lol:

To paraphrase Juliet:

"Roxane, Roxane. Wherefore art thou, Roxane?"

If you click on Roxane's Profile (http://elsmar.com/Forums/member.php?u=2745), you can see when she last visited. You can also check on her most recent posts.

I thought that line referred to Juliet's dismay that Romeo was a Montague, thus the proper interpretation fo the quote was "Romeo, Romeo, WHY are you Romeo."
I may be entirely wrong, but thought I'd ask.

I thought that line referred to Juliet's dismay that Romeo was a Montague, thus the proper interpretation fo the quote was "Romeo, Romeo, WHY are you Romeo."
I may be entirely wrong, but thought I'd ask.
Quote: (Originally Posted by Wes Bucey) Sorry to say this, but "So what?!"

Well like many searchers in the Cove, I do not have the indepth knowledge that many of the regulars have concerning topics in quailty and auditing and even some of the topics in the Coffee Break room. I have been enlightened about these topics many times in the past and I guess I was just hoping that someone who was also standing around the watercooler could help me out again. I'd hate to spend the next 60 years thinking I knew something about Shakespeare when in reality, I was just wrong again.
Next time someone posts a picture of the rabbit outside their window, I'll make sure I don't post a comment that inspires a "SO WHAT?" response.
Sorry.

Please don't be sorry, it was only a joke.

Pretty soon we'll have to label what is humour when we post... Personally, I like the Shakespeare 'integration' in many posts.

So - Does anyone know which is correct?

Sorry, I know very little of shakespeare, however, when I hear the name Roxanne, I envision Eddie Murphy in a recliner in a jail cell...

Pretty soon we'll have to label what is humour when we post... Personally, I like the Shakespeare 'integration' in many posts.

So - Does anyone know which is correct?

I think humor is correct.

Sorry, I know very little of shakespeare, however, when I hear the name Roxanne, I envision Eddie Murphy in a recliner in a jail cell...
I think of the Police song.

Pretty soon we'll have to label what is humour when we post... Personally, I like the Shakespeare 'integration' in many posts.

So - Does anyone know which is correct?

Gusman is correct. In this context, "wherefore" means "why?" Juliet is indeed lamenting the fact that her association with Romeo (the person) is forbidden because of his name (and her family's feud with his).

Claes - That link won't work because it is a 'one time search' link...Whooops... That's right, I should have known that :o

/Claes

See what happens? All you have to do is mention Shakesphere and everyone gets all snooty!!!:lol: Personally, the only Shadesphere I pay attention to is the fishing rod!!!;) "My Kingdom for a lunker!"

tarheel - Same song, he was very poorly singing the opening of the song while in jail, as Nick Nolte walks in. When I attempt to sing it in the shower I sound more like the Eddie Murphy spoof than the original from the Police, which is usually followed up with "Mommy, make Daddy stop singing"

When I attempt to sing it in the shower I sound more like the Eddie Murphy spoof than the original from the Police, which is usually followed up with "Mommy, make Daddy stop singing"

Gosh, that's horrible, I usually get requests.
Examples: Mom, will you sing a solo for me? Solo that I cannot hear it?

Mom, I have a request for you to sing, how about Far, Far Away?
:lmao:

*sigh* I'm devastated to see that a thread with my name in it has not only gone off topic, but has started a debate, no less, on Shakespeare! :rolleyes:

And for the record, the second stall has run out of toilet paper! Marc...please speak with the janitorial staff about that. :rolleyes:

To the individual who had the audacity to spell Roxane with two n's...tsk tsk! For shame! The history behind Roxane with one n is lovely...Alexander the Great's wife spelled her name like this. I believe it is also the proper way to spell it en Francais...the Roxane in Cyrano was with one n. That concludes our little history lesson for the day, class.

So, let's get back to the topic at hand....me! Hmmm....there's no "TA DA!" emoticon....so this shall have to do... :bigwave:

But yes, Rachel...rather busy of late...even have spent little time in the chat room. Current project requires focus and if it is ignored for 15 minutes, it hangs and let's just say that's a path I don't wish to wander down too often. Toss in my little excursion to Knoxville and my most recent trip to exotic Mississauga...well...time flies. :D

Thanks to those folks who pointed out the little trail of bread crumbs so that I could find my way back here. :o

But yes, Rachel...rather busy of late...even have spent little time in the chat room. Current project requires focus and if it is ignored for 15 minutes, it hangs and let's just say that's a path I don't wish to wander down too often. Toss in my little excursion to Knoxville and my most recent trip to exotic Mississauga...well...time flies. :D

wow - all these threads just from a simple "where is roxane?"...

i haven't been in here in a while myself, and was surprised to see that you weren't all over the boards. welcome back - to both of us, i guess...i'm wound up and compressed and taking tomorrow off to sit on my couch and do nothing...until 4:45 when my mom's train rolls into town for the weekend... :mg: i might need the break beforehand!

have a good one folks...
-r.

wow - all these threads just from a simple "where is roxane?"...

Rachel, Rachel, Rachel....nothing is ever simple in the Cove! :D

i haven't been in here in a while myself, and was surprised to see that you weren't all over the boards. welcome back - to both of us, i guess...i'm wound up and compressed and taking tomorrow off to sit on my couch and do nothing...until 4:45 when my mom's train rolls into town for the weekend... :mg: i might need the break beforehand!

Well, I would have been all over the boards but you see, in Knoxville, they converted me and I ended up eating ribs with both my hands and all my fingers (I never to that...knife and fork, please, or the thumb and index finger of my left hand as the maximum)...needless to say, I think I'm still finding rib sauce under my nails and in my hair! :) Between that and the fried dill pickles...my system is still in shock. But at least I've stopped dropping the "g" from my speech pattern and sayin' ya'll. :rolleyes:

Ahh...girls weekend out...I'm not sure if Toronto can handle this! Stay away from Eglington and Dufferin...cement is falling off of buildings there!

Vegging out...a true Canadian pasttime! Cup of tea or freshly made juice, a nice croissant with blackberry jam and slowly waking up with Seamus on Canada AM....can life get any better? ;)

have a good one folks...

You, too! Go hang out at Vaughan Mills...I hear they've got some amazing stores there.

Gosh! I'm thrilled to find so many Shakespearean scholars in our midst.

I was only trying to be humorous to the moment with a paraphrase.

the correct meaning of the original is, of course, as many have written, "why are you a Montague" [family enemy] - in other words, why do you have to come from a family that complicates our love.

For those interested, here's a great "cheat sheet" (just like Cliff's Notes from school days), aptly named, I might add, for the "clip and paste crowd"

Now we hear Juliet's famous words, "O Romeo, Romeo! wherefore [why] art thou Romeo?" (2.2.33). Of course she's not actually speaking to Romeo (she has no idea that he is there), but she is so much in love with him that she's asking why he must be "Romeo," a Montague. She asks him to "Deny thy father and refuse thy name"(2.2.34), so that he will no longer be a Montague, or -- if he won't do that -- if he will just swear he loves her, she will give up the name of "Capulet." Hearing this, Romeo asks himself if he should speak now, or listen some more. Before he can quite make up his mind, Juliet says more about his name. It is only his name that is her enemy, she says to her imagined Romeo, and if he would change his name, "Thou art thyself, though not a Montague" (2.2.39). In other words, if he changed his name, he would still be himself. And "Montague" isn't a hand, foot, arm, or face. There's actually nothing in a name, she says, because "That which we call a rose / By any other name would smell as sweet" 2.2.43-44), and "So Romeo would, were he not Romeo call'd, / Retain that dear perfection which he owes [has] / Without that title [name]" (2.2.45-47). Once again, she asks Romeo (still without knowing that he's there) to give up his name, " And for that name which is no part of thee / Take all myself" (2.2.48-49).

I was only trying to be humorous to the moment with a paraphrase.

Same here when I quoted you Wes. Anyone with a book to his credit should be used as a source of knowledge.