My Mgmt has recently decided they would like to go straight to AS9100 for the Aerospace Industry after 8 months of working on 9001:2000. :bonk:

We still want to exclude Design. Is there another standard for AS9100 w/ design exclusion or is it all AS9100.

I know 9001:2000 allows for the exclusion

Is there another standard for AS9100 w/ design exclusion or is it all AS9100.

I know 9001:2000 allows for the exclusion
You exclude design for AS9100 as well. And - don't sweat the decision to go straight for AS9100; it will save you money and headaches in the end if they were just going to upgrade from ISO at a later date. If an AS auditor does not conduct your ISO registration audit - when you upgrade you will need a complete reassessment - not just the AS additional stuff. Our AS9100 registration audit is going to be in the neighborhood of 5 days on-site - and our ISO system is 5 years old.

Also - since the AS standard encompasses the ISO standared entirely, nothing you've done in the last 8 months is going to go to waste or anything.

Best of luck to you!

You have piqued my curiosity. Are you saying that ISO 9001:2000 allows you to exclude design even if that is a function that is performed at/by your company? Because if you are, I would have to totally disagree.

Former versions of ISO 9000 allowed for this via the subsets of 9000 (i.e. 9002 and 9003), but the current version ONLY allows this IF design is NOT a function of your company.

My Mgmt has recently decided they would like to go straight to AS9100 for the Aerospace Industry after 8 months of working on 9001:2000. :bonk:

We still want to exclude Design. Is there another standard for AS9100 w/ design exclusion or is it all AS9100.

I know 9001:2000 allows for the exclusion

HokieMan,

Check out this forum thread that Sidney Vianna started: IAQG - International Aerospace Quality Group (http://elsmar.com/Forums/showthread.php?t=12142)

http://www.iaqg.sae.org/iaqg/publications/standards.htm lists all the various AS9100 Standards. What aerospace niche are you in (e.g. MRO, Stockist/Distributor, etc.)?

Are you saying that ISO 9001:2000 allows you to exclude design even if that is a function that is performed at/by your company?
Mornin, double-d

I didn't get that from his post. I thought he meant they aren't design responsible - so can they exclude it for AS like you can for ISO.

Muleskinner's links should help him out.

We are only design products for our commercial customers. Our scope will incorporate only Aerospace/Defense. In this portion of our business we only machine to customer print/CAD Model and provide special processing for which we use outside vendors.

Thanks!

Cari is right on. It is no problem to exclude design 7.3 my last two clients both took the design and development exclusion because they are service only companies. In fact if you have no company history in 7.3 you will be hard pressed to include in the scope of your activities.