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micron
20th June 2005, 11:25 PM
I suspect some sort of marketing scheme is afoot because we received a buyout/partnership/reseller offer (seems to be up to us to indicate our preference). A fax was sent after an initial email contact, and the fax header indicates it is from Global QA and ISO 9000 USA on the next line. Does anyone have any reliable information on what this might be about? Being suspicious in nature, my first thought is that the only thing I might get from it is a lighter wallet.
Dave,
Veraccess

Wes Bucey
21st June 2005, 03:05 AM
I suspect some sort of marketing scheme is afoot because we received a buyout/partnership/reseller offer (seems to be up to us to indicate our preference). A fax was sent after an initial email contact, and the fax header indicates it is from Global QA and ISO 9000 USA on the next line. Does anyone have any reliable information on what this might be about? Being suspicious in nature, my first thought is that the only thing I might get from it is a lighter wallet.
Dave,
Veraccess
I wouldn't be so much suspicious as trying to keep from hurting myself rolling on the floor laughing and scaring the cat!

For the folks in the peanut gallery:"Highly recommended, easy, inexpensive ISO 9001:2000 options to become ISO 9001:2000 compliant (Replaces old ISO 9000 system). Manual and software include all documents, procedures and forms to get ISO 9001, 9002,and QS/TE 9000 certification quickly, inexpensively, without outside consultants... OR we also offer COMPLETE ON-SITE start to finish Consulting and Documentation packages!"
If you want to become ISO 9001:2000 Registered but don’t think you have the time or resources, you must read this! For a limited time we are offering the best ISO 9001:2000 Combined Software Consulting and Training Program
(Replacing ISO 9000), a free custom written Policy Manual, Personal Training Course, 2 years unlimited technical support and a complete ISO 9001:2000 software package containing ALL procedures and forms for an unbeatable price: Normally $8,495: Respond within the next 7 days and pay only $3,995 or $665 per month for six months.SAVE 52% That’s a $4,500 savings and your company can be Compliant in less than 6 months.

Maybe if you wait another 7 days, the price will go down again.:rolleyes:

Everything is laughable to a true expert. If you think you could sell this with a straight face, I have some bridges and swamp land for you to sell as well.

This sounds like straight out of the Ron Popeil school of salesmanship - "Wait! There's more!" Where's the link to Ginsu knives?

Marc
21st June 2005, 07:26 AM
Does anyone have any reliable information on what this might be about?It's called spam, I believe... Or sales pitch, or whatever...

Don Palmer
21st June 2005, 08:27 PM
Global QA prepared my manuals several years ago. I'm not bragging...just stating the fact. My choice :nope: Customer Satisfaction :mad: Recommend :nope:

Wes Bucey
21st June 2005, 09:30 PM
Global QA prepared my manuals several years ago. I'm not bragging...just stating the fact. My choice :nope: Customer Satisfaction :mad: Recommend :nope:
Isn't it surprising how some bosses will buy ANYTHING from "the expert from afar" without looking around to see if there is an in-house expert to help make an INTELLIGENT choice?

Don Palmer
21st June 2005, 11:18 PM
Isn't it surprising how some bosses will buy ANYTHING from "the expert from afar" without looking around to see if there is an in-house expert to help make an INTELLIGENT choice?

Thanks to the Cove, :thanx: I'm not as surprised as I could have been. I wouldn't necessarily consider myself an expert either, yet. :rolleyes: But I know well enough that I am hanging around with the right people here at the Cove. :yes:

Yes, some bosses WILL buy ANYTHING, and some companies will go after certification for the WRONG reasons. :bonk: I'm not so discouraged though at the moment. I'll continue to learn what I can. Some day I may be called upon to offer an INTELLIGENT choice. I want to be ready.

I can see the handwriting on the wall. :eek: There is more drama surrounding this topic too. But at the moment I would not be comfortable making any of it public.

Wes Bucey
22nd June 2005, 02:11 AM
I have a hunch you might benefit from reading this thread:
http://elsmar.com/Forums/showthread.php?t=9939 (http://elsmar.com/Forums/showthread.php?t=9939)

Don Palmer
22nd June 2005, 10:27 AM
I have a hunch you might benefit from reading this thread:
http://elsmar.com/Forums/showthread.php?t=9939 (http://elsmar.com/Forums/showthread.php?t=9939)
Thanks Wes. I have read this thread before but will be reading it again.
"Is there life, health, safety involved?" NO! I would have already taken action if I had knowledge that life, health or safety were at stake.

This is a matter of playing the QMS game with a pretty certificate hanging on the wall. Not unlike doctors, I guess we have license to practice too. They practice medicine (on their customers) and we practice total quality (on our customers).

Again, thanks for the link. I may not be the brightest star in the Galaxy. But I do twinkle and share the light at every opportunity.

By the way, my BOSS is the Quality Manager and is directly responsible to the President. I am the Quality Systems Director which is a fancy title for pioneer, leader, trailblazer, adventurer, pilgrim, sod buster (well you get the idea). :D

micron
22nd June 2005, 11:37 PM
...Maybe if you wait another 7 days, the price will go down again.:rolleyes:
Everything is laughable to a true expert. If you think you could sell this with a straight face, I have some bridges and swamp land for you to sell as well.

Several interesting responses, and for that I thank y'all.
I saw that sales pitch too...but I may have given you the wrong impression. What they're pitching is to be a re-seller of our software, or buy it out, or buy out our company, not for us to sell their stuff. Or are you saying that based on the 'laugh factor' of their ad, we shouldn't take them too seriously?

Wes Bucey
22nd June 2005, 11:54 PM
Simply stated:

How much credibility would your product have if sold by these guys?

If you want to sell your rights to your product to them, take the money in cash in one lump sum, no "time payment" deals.

When selling your business to another organization, the decision whether to agree to payments over time versus all cash hinges on the four "C's" of credit:
4 C's of credit:

Capacity,
Collateral,
Credit rating and
Character.
(some folks add at least a fifth "C" - Capability)

Based on current selling style If the only collateral is your own business, that doesn't seem reasonable to me. What more need we say about item 4?