Hi There,
I am looking for some examples of completed "Turtle Diagrams" Any help out there

Hi Reggie and welcome to the Cove!!

Engineering Process - Drafting a turtle diagram - Seeking examples (http://elsmar.com/Forums/showthread.php?t=12002)

Process Analysis - What do process indicators mean in the turtle diagrams? (http://elsmar.com/Forums/showthread.php?t=11868)

Turtle maps and Flowcharts - How is everyone approaching Turtle maps and flowcharts? (http://elsmar.com/Forums/showthread.php?t=10196)

Take a look at these threads. You may find what you are looking for.

Hi There,
I am looking for some examples of completed "Turtle Diagrams" Any help out there
Hi, Reggie! Welcome to the Cove!

One thing you might benefit from (I suspect your company is essentially a "boutique" operation applying your electric heating technology to a variety of products as customers come along) is a basic grounding in a few of the so-called "quality tools" a lot of the old-timers in the quality business take for granted.

FMEA (Failure Mode and Evaluation Analysis) - this is essentially a process for "sitting down and thinking" about the possible things that could go wrong in manufacturing and/or using a product, then devising "work arounds" to avoid them happening.

"Mistake proofing" (sometimes referred to by the Japanese term Poka Yoke or the more colloquial "goof proofing.") - a process for eliminating opportunities for error. Take a look at this website for a good background (John Grout's Poka-Yoke Page (http://www.campbell.berry.edu/faculty/jgrout/pokayoke.shtml))

"Root cause investigation" - often, amateurs make the mistake of not digging deep enough to discover the true underlying cause of nonconformances or excessive variation in a process. The treatment of root cause investigation given in this Department of Energy document can be heavy going, but it is free and if you get hung up on anything, we here at the Cove will always be available to help you over the tough spots (nst1004.pdf (http://www.eh.doe.gov/techstds/standard/nst1004/nst1004.pdf))

I happen to think you and your organization need a little grounding in the basics of getting your processes working smoothly as a prelude to developing the statistics to tell you "how smoothly" you are running.

My basic philosophy has always been that an organization needs to be working toward a common purpose (delivery of quality products to a customer at a profit) and that the introduction of statistics into the mix is a helpful aid in pinpointing areas for improvement. In the case you have shown in another thread, there is nothing subtle about the fact one of the products has a big spike in nonconformance (failures) and investigation into the root cause of that will give your organization a knowledge base for preventing similar spikes in other products as you run through a FMEA prior to beginning production on each new product.

Turtle diagrams (and "octopus" ones, as well) are often associated with the automotive industry. If you are really interested, we can arrange for you to get a copy of ISO/TS 16949:2002 IMPLEMENTATION GUIDE, a 207 page pdf file, which includes a brief discourse on integrating turtles and octopuses (octopi?) with the manufacturing process. They will help in both

problem solving after a problem is discovered
and in
preventive planning to prevent nonconformances and problems before they can ever occur.

hye guys.....thnx for all information n examples given...i'm newbie here and i found dis site very interesting....^_^

Welcome to the Cove Welds.

Dave

If you are really interested, we can arrange for you to get a copy of ISO/TS 16949:2002 IMPLEMENTATION GUIDE, a 207 page pdf file, which includes a brief discourse on integrating turtles and octopuses (octopi?) with the manufacturing process. [/list]

Hi Wes, can I get a copy of the Implementation Guide. Is it posted on the Cove ?

Hi Wes, can I get a copy of the Implementation Guide. Is it posted on the Cove ?


yup....me too...is there any link i can download???:rolleyes:

Welcome to the Cove Welds.

Dave

Hai....:bigwave: thank you...

If you are really interested, we can arrange for you to get a copy of ISO/TS 16949:2002 IMPLEMENTATION GUIDE, a 207 page pdf file, which includes a brief discourse on integrating turtles and octopuses (octopi?) with the manufacturing process. They will help in both

problem solving after a problem is discovered
and in
preventive planning to prevent nonconformances and problems before they can ever occur.


Hi Wes, can you pl post this Implementation Guide in the cove as it would be very helpful to us.

:thanx:

Hi Wes, can you pl post this Implementation Guide in the cove as it would be very helpful to us.

:thanx:

Qualityalways - The Implementation Guide document is protected by copyright and can not be posted on this website.

This is sort of turtle-ish.

Sorry I wasn't clear. AIAG.org is the source for such documents - even AIAG members have to pay something. Here's an excerpt from the catalog
Quality: AIAG Quality Manuals
CQI-5 Business Operating Systems
Version 1 (1999)
member: $10.00 non-member: $50.00
CQI-7 ISO/TS 16949:2002 Implementation Guide
Version 1 (2003)
member: $10.00 non-member: $50.00
Sadly, I've even lost my own copy to a crashed hard drive.

Hello Reggie,

do you already have get an example?

If not here are an desription from the TUEV and 2 from our core processes, Production and Development, we first added risks after an recommendation of our auitor and than an risk analyses.

Regards,

Tamara

Hello Reggie,

do you already have get an example?

If not here are an desription from the TUEV and 2 from our core processes, Production and Development, we first added risks after an recommendation of our auitor and than an risk analyses.

Regards,

Tamara

I have prepared turtle diagram in table. :nope:

Regards,

Ajay

I have prepared turtle diagram in table. Regards,
Ajay

This is good Ajay. Thanks.