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haifeng
24th August 2005, 06:16 AM
Why not call it system approach audit?
Why strengthen it's a process approach audit?
What's the difference between system approach and process approach?
In auto industryk, IATF require the auditor perform the audit by process approach, where's it from?
Who initially invent such a theory? What's kind of basis for him/her to strengthen such a theory?
Why not strenghthen system audit? Is the process approach only a approach for system audit?

:magic:

Marc
8th September 2005, 05:46 AM
I would think they're basically the same thing.

As to the origin of the process approach, I was 'taught' it back in the 1980's. It wasn't a buzz word then, but 'process approach' is nothing new.

Helmut Jilling
8th September 2005, 07:54 AM
Why not call it system approach audit?
Why strengthen it's a process approach audit?
What's the difference between system approach and process approach?
In auto industryk, IATF require the auditor perform the audit by process approach, where's it from?
Who initially invent such a theory? What's kind of basis for him/her to strengthen such a theory?
Why not strenghthen system audit? Is the process approach only a approach for system audit?

:magic:

In QS-9000 & ISO 9001:1994, the system was broken in 20 elements. Everyone managed and audited their system by these elements. But most people run their companies by Dept. or by process. The elements were not a good approach. The new standards (TS, ISO 9001) want the system to be audited along this "process approach." It is not really new. It just takes out this detour we made into elements. Many auditors and managers have already been folowing some version of this process approach for years. Now it is required.