IN Clause 4.3.2 (b) under ISO 14001:2004 it stated "to determine how these requirements apply to it's environmental aspects"

May I know what should I do to conply with this clause?

Please advice. Thanks.

How do your environmental laws apply to your aspects?

You mean how my country's legal requirements apply to my environmental aspect?

We follow Clean Air, Scheduled Waste and Sewerage Regulation. I am not sure what is the meaning of "apply to its aspect"

Please advice. Thanks

Do any of your aspects have laws that apply to them?

Yes. We do generate waste that applies to Schedules Waste Regulation (Law) and have chimney that applies to Clean Air Regulation.

Please advice what should I do with that clause. Thanks in advance.

Whatever you think is appropriate to meet the requirement.

Yes. We do generate waste that applies to Schedules Waste Regulation (Law) and have chimney that applies to Clean Air Regulation.

Please advice what should I do with that clause. Thanks in advance.

The idea is that if there is a law that relates to one of the aspects of the business then this tends to make the aspect more significant and also means you have to demonstrate how you meet the legal requirement (Clause 4.5.2). So if there is a law that relates to solid waste (Schedules Waste Regulation (Law)) and emissions to air (Clean Air Regulation) then these laws should be considered when you evaluate the aspect.

You're wasting air Paul.....but hopefully it works

The idea is that if there is a law that relates to one of the aspects of the business then this tends to make the aspect more significant and also means you have to demonstrate how you meet the legal requirement (Clause 4.5.2). So if there is a law that relates to solid waste (Schedules Waste Regulation (Law)) and emissions to air (Clean Air Regulation) then these laws should be considered when you evaluate the aspect.
Thanks Paul, Your explanation is very clear.

Will do according to your advice.

Thanks again.

HI,
I have one question, anybody clarify it?

All Iso 14001 is about significante aspects, but only clause 4.3.3 legal requiremet relate to just aspects (not significante), what is a point? :confused:

Thanks and regards

Rover

HI,
I have one question, anybody clarify it?

All Iso 14001 is about significante aspects, but only clause 4.3.3 legal requiremet relate to just aspects (not significante), what is a point? :confused:

Thanks and regards

Rover
Hi Rover,

Where did you find all ISO 14001 is about significant aspect except 4.3.3? I don't get what do you mean? :confused:

ISO 14001 is about environmental management system.

My understanding on Clause 4.3.3 is that it's trying to get you to make reference all the environmental aspects that were identified in your aspect identification & impact evaluation process, so that you would make effort to comply to your country legal requirement or your company's applicable legal & other requirements.

It's not about significant aspects you have assessed. Sometime, the aspects assessed deemed not to be significant could have detrimental effect to the environment as each companies had it's own unique aspect & impact evaluation criteria which is different from each other. Those aspects may have legal liability although not significant per their assessment to the companies operating in that countries.

Just sharing my view on this.:bigwave:

Hi Rover,

Where did you find all ISO 14001 is about significant aspect except 4.3.3? I don't get what do you mean? :confused:

ISO 14001 is about environmental management system.

My understanding on Clause 4.3.3 is that it's trying to get you to make reference all the environmental aspects that were identified in your aspect identification & impact evaluation process, so that you would make effort to comply to your country legal requirement or your company's applicable legal & other requirements.

It's not about significant aspects you have assessed. Sometime, the aspects assessed deemed not to be significant could have detrimental effect to the environment as each companies had it's own unique aspect & impact evaluation criteria which is different from each other. Those aspects may have legal liability although not significant per their assessment to the companies operating in that countries.

Just sharing my view on this.:bigwave:

Key question is about difference between :bonk: operational control of aspects and significante aspects?

Rover

HI,
I have one question, anybody clarify it?

All Iso 14001 is about significante aspects, but only clause 4.3.3 legal requiremet relate to just aspects (not significante), what is a point? :confused:

Thanks and regards

Rover

I have referred to this a couple of times in posts. The link between a company's aspects, their policy, EMS and Objectives, targets and programmes has been strengthened with 14k 2004.

This is my view:
http://elsmar.com/Forums/showpost.php?p=124396&postcount=13

No point in reposting if you can recycle old posts - my new year resolution! :lol:

You're wasting air Paul.....but hopefully it works

I have noted that you shoot down newcomers - if I was a newcomer to ISO 14001 and received one of your snide or unkind remarks I would be so frustrated: all they are doing is asking for help.
We all started at the beginning ..... not sure if elsmarcove belongs to you; obviously you spend much time (am I treading on toes?) but please, no-one is ever too smart to learn (even if you learn that no-one is as experienced as you are).

I have noted that you shoot down newcomers - if I was a newcomer to ISO 14001 and received one of your snide or unkind remarks I would be so frustrated: all they are doing is asking for help.
We all started at the beginning ..... not sure if elsmarcove belongs to you; obviously you spend much time (am I treading on toes?) but please, no-one is ever too smart to learn (even if you learn that no-one is as experienced as you are).

Well thanks a bunch, I guess this means we'll never share dinner.:thanx: This really breaks my heart.:crybaby:

:soap: As for shooting down newcomers or anyone else I may seem rough, but as you said no one is ever too smart to learn and I learn all the time from the folks that come here to visit. Many times it just takes a gentle nudge to help people understand that they already are in possession of the answers they are searching for but they want to be spoon fed. I prefer to teach people to fish as opposed to feeding them all the time.

Before you go slamming me or others, making judgements or just talking out your fanny why not try finding out about the person instead.

Now as to my having too much time on my hands....most of the time you find that I have been here I am in a hotel room far from home (Toronto, Canada tonight) and I think that this is much better than hanging in a bar getting drunk and making a total asz out of myself (I said total because you already implied that I had achieved the title already). I have been home a total of 4 complete 24 hour days in August and no 2 of them consecutive. If I sound cranky, I'm just a bit tired.

I do not take a candy coated, mealy mouthed, wimpy approach to anything, it's not in my nature.

Golly that felt good.

I am always willing to help those who truly desire help and I think that I have shown that may times to be true.

Now, is there some issue with 4.3.2 that you need assistance with?