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Jim123
8th October 2005, 09:32 PM
Is there someone, who could send me information about the toyota methode.
I'm interested on information and experiences.

regard
Jim:thanx:

Howard Atkins
9th October 2005, 02:59 AM
Welcome to the cove

Here are 2 presentations that I have
Hope they help

Was123
21st December 2005, 06:27 AM
Hello Howard, is it possible to know where you obtained the presentations? they were very useful to understand the basics in DRBFM.

Howard Atkins
21st December 2005, 01:10 PM
Hello Howard, is it possible to know where you obtained the presentations? they were very useful to understand the basics in DRBFM.

I received them from a large tier one in Brazil whom a company I was working with was supplying.
I think that the Brazilian project manager had been to some Toyota courses and they wanted us to us the method.
They also wanted to use this format of control plan MQC_EXAMPLE.pdf (http://elsmar.com/Forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=3005&d=1103089449)

Outsource
29th July 2006, 06:41 AM
Hi
Its very difficult to find any resource full information about DRBFM.
It would help me a lot to see if more information is available on the web. So, is there anyone who knows a good web site?
Thx a lot

tymer5
31st July 2006, 10:44 AM
Hi
Its very difficult to find any resource full information about DRBFM.
It would help me a lot to see if more information is available on the web. So, is there anyone who knows a good web site?
Thx a lot

I don't have any specific web site but I can give you the name of a consultant who worked with Tatsuhiko Yoshimura. If he can't help he may be able to point you to someone who can. Send me an e-mail if you want the name and I will give you what I have.

Michael Walmsley
4th August 2006, 09:59 AM
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tymer5
4th August 2006, 10:31 PM
Michael, That is funny. Your post is the same guy I was talking about in my last post. I was trying not to give his personal information out without his permission, but there it is any way. What do you know.

Michael Walmsley
7th August 2006, 09:36 AM
Sorry,
He posted it on the six sigma site voluntarily.

Mike

tymer5
7th August 2006, 10:39 AM
Not an issue for me... By the way nice post on the FMEA thread. I give it 5 stars.

tac123
15th November 2006, 04:45 PM
Does anyone know for sure if Toyota does DRBFM for all design changes or ask suppliers to perform DRBFM? I know General Motors is asking its suppliers to perform DRBFM but have not seen any Toyota DRBFM or DRBFM created by Toyota suppliers.

I'm looking for some indication from working level engineers at Toyota that the tool has been successfully implemented at Toyota.

Michael Walmsley
16th November 2006, 08:38 AM
Both.
Toyota has been doing it for years.
GM stole their top man in this area. They are now training the Tier 1 supply base.
Robert Bosch stole Toyota's #2 man,and are extensively rolling out DRBFM globally.

tac123
16th November 2006, 09:52 AM
Both.
Toyota has been doing it for years.
GM stole their top man in this area. They are now training the Tier 1 supply base.
Robert Bosch stole Toyota's #2 man,and are extensively rolling out DRBFM globally.
I was aware of the two DRBFM "experts" going to GM and Bosch but have asked a few people at Toyota suppliers about DRBFM and they hadn't heard of the process.

When you say Toyota has been doing DRBFM for years how do you know this?

I'm looking for some indication the Toyota or its suppliers really do use DRBFM successfully. Sometimes I wonder if these new quality tools / processes (although it's not really a new process it seems to be a repackaged FMEA) are ideas of a top level manager just looking to make a name for themselves and not a real tool used successfully by the working level engineers.

Michael Walmsley
16th November 2006, 12:29 PM
I was one of the Bosch people that was being trained to be a facilitator by the former #2 Toyota guy.

He provided us with contacts (which I no longer have) , manuals ,.....

The tool provides a deeper dive into design/process changes than the FMEA normally would. Think FMEA as continuum mechanics and DRBFM as Quantum mechanics.

At the completion of activities , the crucial verbiage is uploaded to the FMEA.
Note : Used in conjunction with DRBTR (Design review based on test results).

Search the internet for Bill Hewey, he can provide more info.

I now work in the Healthcare industry.

Jim123
3rd May 2007, 04:05 PM
Have someone news about DRBFM or is the method dead?

Thanks for information
Jim

Michael Walmsley
4th May 2007, 08:41 AM
Its still going strong.

Contact Gary Reese (former ASQ section chair Michiana) at

gary.reese@us.bosch.com for the latest.

Hmmmmmmmmm!

Toyota surpassed GM this week!


Go figure!:notme:

ilsaconsulting
23rd May 2007, 03:27 PM
Is there someone, who could send me information about the toyota methode.
I'm interested on information and experiences.

regard
Jim:thanx:

Hello,

I have experienced the Plato-Software and their approach to transfer the 'eastern" philosophy to openly discuss ideas between engineers to the totally different 'western' mentality. They visualize cause-impact-structures in a modeler, discuss them and share the models in the intranet using all the web 2.0 technology to integrate as many engineers as possible.
http://www.plato-ag.com/platohp/english/scio-drbfm.html
I've experienced the results as a moderator preventing some failures that you may benefit from in your next car.
They think DRBFM shouldn't just fill a table or matrix but guide a really creative discussion. The solution is to visualize using right side of our brain and to share and discuss it over the web for all the engineers with no time for endless meetings.
Regard
Kai

lilianfa
21st September 2007, 02:20 AM
Welcome to the cove

Here are 2 presentations that I have
Hope they help

thanks for your presentations. I get some information about it.

lilianfa
6th October 2007, 05:59 AM
DRBFM is a good method , but we can not find any information about it.
I am instrested in it. please some send me some information.or tell me the website which introduce it.
thanks a lot

Stijloor
6th October 2007, 06:22 AM
DRBFM is a good method , but we can not find any information about it.

Hello lilianfa,

Look here (http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=DRBFM&btnG=Google+Search).

Hope this helps.

Stijloor.

rlaurenti
14th February 2008, 12:03 PM
Does anyone have any published material (in English) concerning to DRBFM that can use in an academic research?

Thanks!

Rafael (from Brazil)

michael.witte
14th February 2008, 06:51 PM
I have used the a limited circulation book, which is very good.
Here are the details:
Beginners’ Guide to DRBFM (Design Review Based on Failure Mode)
-- For People Performing DRBFM for the First Time --
September 30, 2005 First Edition (Ver. 1.0)
Produced by:
SQC Study Committee TQM Promotion Committee Toyota Group
Contact information:
TQM Promotion Division Toyota Motor Corporation 0565-23-1079

Jim123
15th February 2008, 05:37 PM
Hello Michael,

thanks for this hint.
Where is this number, in united states?
Is there a e-mail for order?

Jim

michael.witte
17th February 2008, 06:31 AM
Jim,

A Japanese associate got it for us from TMC Japan, so it may be a Japanese number.
I would think the most Toyota plants would have it in their library (they have lost of great training books in them). You could try calling your local TMC plant and asking to speak to someone there about it.

maroco
1st April 2009, 03:52 AM
good files, I am writing some DR report .

itisfunny
6th August 2009, 12:07 PM
Hi,
I read the informations posted by Howard about DRBFM. Their helped me a lot to understand the method. It means DRBFM is mostely used when any changes occur on the design or the process.
Do you thing, it is possible to leave out the "creative FMEA" part when using DRBFM?
I am asking this, because after presenting the method in my firm, the only reaction was "THIS FMEA ony the name has change".

After doing FMEA before changing the part. It should normaly be possible to do only "Design Review" part without the "creative FMEA" part.

Thanks a lot for your answers:thanx:

itisfunny
27th August 2009, 10:16 PM
Hi,
does anyone have some Practical Examples of using DRBFM?

rlaurenti
19th September 2009, 04:28 PM
There are three papers written in Japanese (http://ci.nii.ac.jp/search?q=drbfm&range=0&count=20&sortorder=1), around seven in German (http://www.drbfm.com/drbfm-publikationen) and just one in English (http://www.sae.org/technical/papers/2003-01-2877), a technical procedure from GM distributed by IHS (http://auto.ihs.com/document/abstract/EGLEIBAAAAAAAAAA), and now the SAE standard J2886 sponsored by William A. Haughey (http://www.sae.org/servlets/works/documentHome.do?comtID=TEVAQR&docID=J2886&inputPage=wIpSdOcDeTaIlS).

Hope it help.

Regards, Rafael