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Marc
18th November 2005, 09:16 AM
From USA Today (http://www.usatoday.com/news/world/2005-11-17-china-guide_x.htm): A guide to success in China, by Americans who live there

By Calum MacLeod, USA TODAY

BEIJING — The number of Americans living in China has reached a historic high of 110,000. They are teachers, hairdressers, diplomats, travelers, students and business fat cats. There's even a bluegrass banjo player and singer who is scheduled to perform in Mandarin here Friday night.

What kind of advice about dealing with the Chinese can American expatriates pass along to President Bush, who comes through Saturday night for a state visit?

Take a long-term view, they say. Ensure your expectations are realistic. Show respect by soaking in some Chinese history. Dealing with the Chinese is a contact sport, so work on relationships — but have fun.

Some insights from Americans who have built a life in China:

Persistence pays off

When author Peter Hessler moved from Columbia, Mo., to a small town on the Yangtze River town as a Peace Corps volunteer teacher in 1996, he says he saw signs everywhere that said "No Foreigners Allowed" and even "Prepare for War" — relics of an era of deep mistrust between China and the rest of the world. He says he didn't feel like "a representative of America, but had to accept I was seen as that."

He found that the key to finding acceptance was mastering the Chinese language. That opened up a society that was, in fact, curious about the outside world after decades of isolation. He found out that America and China have a lot in common.

"The longer I live here, the more similarities I see between the USA and China," says Hessler, 36, whose book River Town: Two Years on the Yangtze was published by HarperCollins in 2001. "Besides the similarity in (geographical) size, there's no single language or ethnic group, so it's amazing that China works, and the U.S., too."

He adds, "These are two incredibly powerful cultures that have attracted other peoples."

Hessler encourages other Americans here to study Chinese because it shows respect for the culture. He also notes that today more people are studying English in China than speaking it in the USA.

His next book, Oracle Bones, due in April, will explore Chinese-U.S. themes.

His advice: Be persistent.

"I learned the need to be patient, persistent and not easily intimidated," he says.

Patience is profitable

Businessman Peter Zenello, 48, learned the hard way about the importance of communication. "When I arrived to study in 1984, China really was a hardship tour. The Chinese were afraid to sit down and talk to you," he says.

Zenello, from Plymouth, Mass., finally found language partners in a public park near the imperial lakes of Beijing, where toothless old men paraded their caged birds and sang opera. Today the Shichahai neighborhood is a bustling district of bars and restaurants popular with the expatriate community and the capital's nouveau riche.

In 1987, Zenello joined pioneering U.S. firm Chindex, which distributes medical equipment here. Never forgetting that "doing business in China is a fight," Zenello and colleagues earned "face" locally by staying in China after the government cracked down on pro-democracy protesters in Tiananmen Square in 1989. Many other foreign firms pulled out.

As China sped up on the road to capitalism, Zenello's ambitions grew. Eventually, he established distribution networks for other medical companies and now works with his Chinese wife — their company is called Mei United — to export Inner Mongolian sheep products and bring American jazz performances and education to China.

His advice: Be patient.

"China can be a land of opportunity. But many foreigners leave their brains at home. If you know the system, have the time and patience, you can get things done, and that's what makes it exciting."

Dancing brings discovery

Dancer Aly Rose says she has had many exciting moments in China.

While taking a Chinese-language exam in the southwestern city of Kunming in 1999, a brick smashed through a window. It had been thrown at her by protesters angry about the accidental bombing of the Chinese Embassy in Belgrade, Yugoslavia, during U.S.-led NATO airstrikes.

"I was really scared," says the Galveston, Texas, native. "I thought I was close to this country, but I had become an enemy of the state." She decided to stay, however, and now calls China home.

In 2002, Rose became the first Westerner to graduate from the Beijing Dance Academy, one of Asia's finest. Her teachers never used her name. Instead, they called her "Little American Girl." "I didn't exist as myself. I existed as a country," she says.

Rose, in her early 30s, has prospered here. She has won plaudits and prizes for her choreography and dance. She even brought Broadway to China as choreographer for Lady in the Dark, the first Broadway musical produced on a Chinese stage.

Restrictions on artistic freedom sometimes leave Rose feeling as if she is "dancing with a ball and chain." But she treasures the chance to work in partnership with Chinese dancers and to create "things that have never been seen before."

Her advice: Embrace a new way of life.

"It's like stepping on another planet and breathing a new type of air. But it's more than a whole different culture, there's a whole different worldview and history," she says. "And you don't get anywhere by challenging it."

Pack a strong backbone, too, Rose adds, and be yourself. China is a great place "if you can be spontaneous, ... enjoy the one-on-one with the Chinese people — and be willing to laugh at yourself."

Brian Myers
18th November 2005, 10:31 AM
Good info!

Rings very true to my ears (having much experience in doing business and Engineering in China). Patience is not a virtue over there, it is a way of life. :)

Brian

sunwen
20th November 2006, 10:38 PM
Actually, I didnt get the real mean of this article!!! : )

but I am sure a foreigner(even a Japanese) can be easy to live in China, most Chinese are kindly to the foreigner, because we call the foreigner are Bei Jing Li Xian( it means you left your hometown to work or study in a strange country), so most Chinese like to show the concern to these people, instead of excluding, it comes from Chinese culture, and a bit difference with most country, I think.

Nancy_Jing
25th July 2007, 10:22 PM
I'm Chinese, working in Beijing. I agree with the opinion of the article that there are lots of good opportunities here, if you like, you could hit the market.
Welcome to China.:)

harry
25th July 2007, 10:37 PM
Huanying (Welcome) Nancy,

Welcome to the Cove. We look forward for more active participation from users of this forum from China. Better communication creates better understanding!

Marc
25th July 2007, 11:07 PM
....there are lots of good opportunities here, if you like, you could hit the market.
Who can you contact to assess opportunities in China?

Ajit Basrur
25th July 2007, 11:40 PM
Actually, I didnt get the real mean of this article!!! : )

but I am sure a foreigner(even a Japanese) can be easy to live in China, most Chinese are kindly to the foreigner, because we call the foreigner are Bei Jing Li Xian( it means you left your hometown to work or study in a strange country), so most Chinese like to show the concern to these people, instead of excluding, it comes from Chinese culture, and a bit difference with most country, I think.

I'm Chinese, working in Beijing. I agree with the opinion of the article that there are lots of good opportunities here, if you like, you could hit the market.
Welcome to China.:)

Welcome to the Cove, Chinese girls :bigwave:

I hope to have your active participation in this cove.

asdf12345
25th July 2007, 11:50 PM
Hello buddies

You don't need think too much about China. Chinese is open than any other nation. So, go to China for shopping, purchasing, setting plant, just that.

Nancy_Jing
26th July 2007, 12:15 AM
Thanks a lot. I work in a biological pharmaceutical company in beijing, China. I'm happy to be here to communicate with the peoples of the world. Welcome to contact with me at jywellmoon of hotmail.

Craig H.
26th July 2007, 09:48 AM
The article says several times that patience and persistence are the keys to success and happiness in China. But, wouldn't that be true for any of us, especially those of us who find ourselves in an environment different than what we are used to?

I suspect that I would find New York City somewhat exasperating, and I remember moving here (rural Georgia) from suburban Chicago. Sheesh.

My point is that we all bring with us what we are used to and are comfortable with. When those perceptions, mores and values do not "fit" with our surroundings, we must learn to adapt, and accept that things are, indeed, different.

It is also a good idea to refrain from telling folks "how we did it back home". For some reason this seems to be universally resented....

Ajit Basrur
27th July 2007, 02:50 AM
Very true Craig and I agree with you that its applicable to all places.

Marc
27th July 2007, 10:07 PM
Something I saw recently: China - Route 312 (http://elsmar.com/video/China_Road_Daily_Show.mov).

On the other hand, Popular Science magazine recently had a devastating article on pollution and other growth 'aspects' in China.

harry
27th July 2007, 10:30 PM
........On the other hand, Popular Science magazine recently had a devastating article on pollution and other growth 'aspects' in China.

Do bear in mind that this country only opened up in the last 25-30 years. It was under the influence of communism for some 50 years and before that under the 'feudal' system for thousands of years. Therefore, they do not or never have the infrastructure necessary for development.

It therefore depends on which angle you like to look at the issue. The optimism marvel at the speed of their development whereas the pessimist groan over the very, very poor infrastructure - made worst by attempts at development. Basically, both the people and infrastructure in the rural areas are not ready for development - but then it has to start somewhere!

Nancy_Jing
14th August 2007, 01:11 AM
Hello buddies

You don't need think too much about China. Chinese is open than any other nation. So, go to China for shopping, purchasing, setting plant, just that.

;)Hi guys,
I agree with you so so... much. Just do it, don't think too much, don't let the thoughts obstacle your adventure steps. Come here and have a look by yourself.

peacewong
20th September 2007, 11:52 PM
I'm also a Chinese. What I want to tell you is that China is a great country with a long history over 5000 yrs. There are a lot of culture, Confucianism includes "仁", "义", "礼","智","信" is the biggest one. You can learn "孙子兵法" that can be implemented to business, trade, foreign relations and negotiation, etc. Also can degust Chinese sitology culture. You can contact me if you want to know more something about China. Welcome to China. Hope to see you soon.

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