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Cognizant
19th January 2006, 08:34 AM
Extra one yr experience 2002-2006 Landed me a Phone Interview with a very reputed company, which I did pretty good and now they asked me to visit their facility for personal interview.I already had sent 2002-2006 experience resume to vice president who is the key member in hiring process. He talked to me on phone for 1.5 hrs and got very impressed and called me for peronal interview.They sent me employment application from to fax it them. I am kinda worried because i actually worked at this place only since 2003 which is roughly 2 + years experience.

I am kindaa scared to fill the Job application with fake experience.Upon verification it proves I am guilty.

What is the best approach..I have to do personal Interview on monday.

I am still waiting to fax my employment application to them.

Can i convince vice president that I put on extra yr experience just to land a phone call so that I can prove myself.

.....................OR

Just fill the Employment application with right experience i.e., 2003-present .


I dunno I am confused... will there be any interaction between HR and Vice president if i fill the exact yrs of experience on the job application....

what are my odds and evens ,.........suggestions please..I'd appreciate it...

Marc
19th January 2006, 08:50 AM
I think we all know that lying is often easily discovered. Just fill in the real information and see what happens. Remember, if you lie and they don't find out now, they may later and then fire you.

I see no advantage to lying.

Don Palmer
19th January 2006, 09:05 AM
Honesty is best, even if penalties follow, justified or not.

TNHunter
19th January 2006, 09:14 AM
You lied to get an interview. If I was the hiring manager and found out you lied to me at that level I would think he would lie after being hired. Lieing is ALWAYS wrong. There is NO justification for it. Be honest on the application, if it comes up in the interview, be honest about it.

David Hartman
19th January 2006, 09:21 AM
Just to add some levity to the situation: When you stretched the truth initially where you "cognizant" of the possible consequences?;)

Complete the application with the correct information, it may not be a problem.

Claes Gefvenberg
19th January 2006, 09:26 AM
I agree with the previous posters.

Put the correct information in the application. When you think about it there really is no alternative: If you put incorrect information in the application, this may force you to twist the truth even further in the future just to cover the initial fib up. That is truly a dangerous path, and there is no telling where it may lead. Probably not to a nice place, though.

As Marc said, this could get you fired if discovered later, and that would look decidedly worse on your resumé than not getting the job in the first place.

Tell it the way it is, and good luck with the application.

/Claes

Jim Wynne
19th January 2006, 09:33 AM
The clear consensus is that you need to be honest at this point, but I would take it a step further: give the correct information on the application and send along a copy of your corrected résumé with a note just saying that you are supplying a corrected copy--no elaboration. The reason for this is that if you put the correct information on the application but don't correct the résumé, you'll have contradictory documents in the file, and it could bite you in the future. Don't make a big deal about it. WHen you fax back the completed application and corrected résumé, just use a cover page that says, "Here's my application and a corrected copy of my résumé, thanks for the consideration, yadda, yadda, yadda"

gard2372
19th January 2006, 10:34 AM
Well, you said one thing, but in actuality your application will show something different. Two questions..

1. Does your resume reflect 2002-2006, or 2003-2006.
2. When did you tell the VP you worked at XYZ, or did he even ask the dates or just what you did there?

In any capacity you must have said something that they liked in order to talk on the phone for 1.5 hours, and invite you for a personal interview otherwise, you would not be moving forward. Just be honest on your application, and hand it in when you get there if they'll allow it. Change your resume with the incorrect date on it and make it right. Tell them the truth that you made a clerical error (as we all hope you did) on your resume. If they like you and what you can offer their organization the one year will not make a difference.

D.Scott
19th January 2006, 11:22 AM
I agree with the others. Jim makes an excellent point about sending a corrected resume. Honesty is the ONLY policy. Good luck.

Dave

Cognizant
19th January 2006, 12:30 PM
I really thank U Guys very much for your valuable advice to me .........

I love this forum.....Thanks again ....

Wes Bucey
19th January 2006, 12:58 PM
The clear consensus is that you need to be honest at this point, but I would take it a step further: give the correct information on the application and send along a copy of your corrected résumé with a note just saying that you are supplying a corrected copy--no elaboration. The reason for this is that if you put the correct information on the application but don't correct the résumé, you'll have contradictory documents in the file, and it could bite you in the future. Don't make a big deal about it. WHen you fax back the completed application and corrected résumé, just use a cover page that says, "Here's my application and a corrected copy of my résumé, thanks for the consideration, yadda, yadda, yadda"This is great advice. The only thing I might change is to call it "updated" resumé versus "corrected" resumé.

Most folks send an initial resumé with exact company names, etc. omitted, but the formal application usually requests the exact company name and contact person for validating the information.

Trust me on the following: If a company has more than 100 employees, there is probably some clerk whose job it is to contact all the previous employers to confirm dates, job titles, circumstances of leaving, etc. to the best of his ability. Any discrepancies may or may not be brought to the candidate's attention. If not, the candidate may be removed from consideration and never know it might have been because a previous employer gave erroneous data (or at least, data that did not match the data on the resumé.) When candidates find themselves dropped after previous "hot" interviews, this may be one unstated cause. If it happens more than once, I suggest to folks I advise to have a friendly executive at a company run such a check of credentials to see what happens. Once you know, you can take steps to remedy the situation (grist for another thread!)

Jim Wynne
19th January 2006, 01:02 PM
The only thing I might change is to call it "updated" resumé versus "corrected" resumé.


Yes--good catch, Wes.

psyched1
19th January 2006, 02:45 PM
At my last company we were attempting to hire a QM and one individual who was a ASQ fellow actually listed outdated certifications on his resume. Unfortunetly for him I was on the review board and asked for his current certifications which he said he would supply, yet never did. Needless to say he never got the job.

One other person applying had two old certifications they couldn't verify. I wonder if this is a trend since most people don't ask for copies of certifications?