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View Full Version : TS 16949 PPAP Material Breakdown Analysis - Steel specifications for WSD-MIA333-A2


trainer
31st January 2006, 04:55 AM
Hi all.
Can anybody help me we are producing parts which go towards the fuel system on ford vehicles.
Our customer requires a breakdown analysis sheet to tie up the material that we have been told to use (cr4).
The PPAP systems engineer requires that the material stated on the drawing (WSD-MIA333-A2) is stated as an alternative on the same sheet.
I cannot find through my searches a steel specifications for the WSD-MIA333-A2.
I have found out that WSD stands for Working Stress Design.
I spoke to a guy in the British Steels section and he says that it is on a spec sheet for DC01. I can't find that either.
Help!

CarolX
31st January 2006, 09:56 AM
Hi Trainer,

I moved your post to the TS16949 board.

I don't know much about the requirements of TS16949, but it sounds like you need a material test report showing the exact chemical composition of the material you used to make your parts. Your supplier should be able to furnish this to you.

Hope this helps!

Jim Wynne
31st January 2006, 10:14 AM
Hi all.
Can anybody help me we are producing parts which go towards the fuel system on ford vehicles.
Our customer requires a breakdown analysis sheet to tie up the material that we have been told to use (cr4).
The PPAP systems engineer requires that the material stated on the drawing (WSD-MIA333-A2) is stated as an alternative on the same sheet.
I cannot find through my searches a steel specifications for the WSD-MIA333-A2.
I have found out that WSD stands for Working Stress Design.
I spoke to a guy in the British Steels section and he says that it is on a spec sheet for DC01. I can't find that either.
Help!

You best bet is to go back to the source of the drawing and ask for guidance. Whomever it was that wrote the specification should know where to find what you're looking for.

Kimmy
8th February 2006, 08:41 AM
Ford has a material specification WSD-M1A333-A2, (1, not I), could this be what you are looking for? It is the specification for Steel sheet, cold rolled, low carbon.

Kim

Ron Rompen
9th February 2006, 10:23 PM
When in doubt, default to the prepared fallback position. Ask the customer to send you a copy of the standard that they expect you to comply with.

I have run across this several times, (particularly with the new GM references to SAE/USCAR-5 and CAR-7 for hydrogen embrittlement), and have had the customer forward me a copy of the OLDER requirement, which does not reference those two (yippeEEEEEEEEEEEe:magic: )

The bottom line, you have to make your customer happy, and to do that, you have to understand what he needs/requires/expects. Don't be afraid to ask..the absolute WORST he can do is bite off your head and spit down your neck :lol: