I am a quality manger for two organizations. One is currently QS9000 but our customer requirements are forcing us to transistion to TS this year. At the same time the ownership has asked me to create and implement an ISO9001 system for the second organization. They perform a service on our products (plating) but have there own customer base and are incorporated separately. According to Rules for Achieving IATF Recognition 2nd Edition FAQ's Number 6 regarding a supplier with common ownership: same physical location-supplier is part of organization and will be audited; different physical location-supplier is treated as supplier. I need a specific definition of "physical location" if someone has dealt with this before. We do not want to create and manage two systems if the second company is going to be rolled into TS regardless. We have two separate addresses, two sets of accounting books, etc. but share management responsibilities and tasks daily and are located side by side in this industrial park. Our registrar is tasking their IATF liason with the question but I do not expect a response for a week or two. With the vast experience and knowledge here in The Cove I was expecting someone that has had to address this before. Any help?:confused:

I think you could have 2 options: it could be treated as a remote support site and only audited for the functions that service the TS site needs. If not , then maybe as a supplier. If they get registered to ISO9001:2000 then that will make a difference as a supplier, because suppliers are not required to be TS, only ISO9001.
Best to keep talking to your registrar to get their interpretation.

I am a quality manger for two organizations. One is currently QS9000 but our customer requirements are forcing us to transistion to TS this year. At the same time the ownership has asked me to create and implement an ISO9001 system for the second organization. They perform a service on our products (plating) but have there own customer base and are incorporated separately. According to Rules for Achieving IATF Recognition 2nd Edition FAQ's Number 6 regarding a supplier with common ownership: same physical location-supplier is part of organization and will be audited; different physical location-supplier is treated as supplier. I need a specific definition of "physical location" if someone has dealt with this before. We do not want to create and manage two systems if the second company is going to be rolled into TS regardless. We have two separate addresses, two sets of accounting books, etc. but share management responsibilities and tasks daily and are located side by side in this industrial park. Our registrar is tasking their IATF liason with the question but I do not expect a response for a week or two. With the vast experience and knowledge here in The Cove I was expecting someone that has had to address this before. Any help?:confused:

Your registrara and IAOB will be the final decision, but I'll add my two cents. Usually the question is the opposite, where someone tries to put two locations together to equal one site (save audit costs).

In your case, I would think it should be your decision. If the second site is ISO certified only, nothing says it has to be TS. Also, you would not need two systems, if the processes and procedures are the same. You could use the TS system for the second site, but certify to ISO only. Remember, the requirement for a supplier is to be ISO certified AND compliant to TS. Use the same system, be TS compliant, and certify to ISO only. Short and sweet.