al40
27th February 2006, 12:09 PM
What is the general cost of implementing TS-16949 into an organization that is already ISO 9001:2000 certified?
I have been asked to do an cost analysis and I'm not sure where to begin has anyone ever done this? Is there an example here in the cove that I may have missed in my searches.
Thanks,
Al
Howard Atkins
2nd March 2006, 03:05 AM
This is a difficult question as it depends on a lot of factors:
Size
Knowledge of automotive tools
Resources available
Speed of implementation
Geography
Sorry I can't help more
Helmut Jilling
2nd March 2006, 04:39 AM
What is the general cost of implementing TS-16949 into an organization that is already ISO 9001:2000 certified?
I have been asked to do an cost analysis and I'm not sure where to begin has anyone ever done this? Is there an example here in the cove that I may have missed in my searches.
Thanks,
Al
The range would be very, very wide, and would include many soft costs such as manager's time and efforts. How much of that do you add? Did they lose the value of the time, or did they make it up. It is these kinds of "soft costs" which could make the number be $10,000 or $100,000.
I would propose a different angle. With respect to Phil Crosby, I suggest that "Quality is expensive, but if it done correctly, it is free."
I have seen that be true many times. Unless your performance is already world class, or the company is very small, the savings in effectiveness, scrap, efficiency, productivity, skill improvements resulting from better training, better communication, and better customer satsifaction should significantly outweigh the costs of implementation. A good consultant helps, as well. (ISO statistics a few years ago suggested the payback was at least 2.8 to 1).
I would cost out the hard costs: registration, training, consulting, overtime, etc. Those items will be actual money spent. The soft costs will be absorbed by your company if you allow adequate time and don't rush it (say 6-9 months).
And, as I said, if you do it right, you should get it all back, year over year.
rjkozak
6th March 2006, 11:50 PM
Get a quote from your registar to start. Compare to ISO 9001 costs, including travel & 3 year cycle costs. Look at TS auditor training costs too.
Depends on many factors , but multiply your ISO9 training & prep hours X 3
Admin costs for TS also are significant for all the extra tracking & documentation factor in this as well.
Talk to your registar and auditor about it too. If you don't have any customers requiring TS , you can always do a TS system without getting it certified and meet the " goal of conformity " as stated in TS....
Or ISO + PPAP as another option . Look at all your options as well.
Talk to your customers and if your team wants TS for future business.
To keep up with all the changes in TS , rules, CSR's , FAQ's & sanctioned interps becomes quite a task.