Hi,
I'm a compounder for engineering plastic (PC, PC/GF, PC/PBT, etc)
Anyway, I've got the TS 16949:2002 and I'm looking to go into the automotive market.
Since, I'm new in this business I need your help.
At this time I'm trying to gather information on getting an automotive approval from Big 3 (Ford, GM, Chrysler) + other auto manufacturs.

someone told me that i need the 6 unique lots to be tested to auto manufacturs specifications at A2LA approved laboratory.

if anyone knows about the process to get the automotive approval and/or link for this information please reply to this message.

Thank you.

you need to contact with Comodity Buyers, they can include you, in their
Suppliers Databank.

Thank you for your reply.
the problem is I don't know much about the plastic industry.:bonk:
I've just started 4month ago.
It will be helpful if you give me in more detail.( I will try to find out what is comodity buyers)

once again thank you:agree1:

The first Step is purchasing using Buyers, after that all the requirements must be given in the purchase order and you can decline the order if you are not able to do it, if yes a proccess call PPAP (APQP) starts as a project (Firts Samples) to conclude with the PSW (Part submission warrant) and then mass production.

Thanks.
Anyway, I've got one more question.
Since I'm a compounder I'm looking to sell my materials to Auto Manufacture.
but you stated that "the first step to take is uprchasing using buyers"
Do I have to buy someting from Buyers? and Who are the Buyers?
I'm sorry that i'm asking you such a basic information, but I love to learn more about selling resins to manufactures.

Also, where can i get the information for GM Spec., Ford Spc., Chrysler Spec. for automotive approval.

Thanks.
Since I'm a compounder I'm looking to sell my materials to Auto Manufacture. but you stated that "the first step to take is uprchasing using buyers"


Something seems amiss here. How do you have a business (in which you are selling things) if you don't know what a "buyer" is? A buyer is a customer representative to whom you will attempt to sell your products.

Do I have to buy someting from Buyers?

No, you sell things to buyers. Conversely, you buy things from sellers.

I'm sorry that i'm asking you such a basic information, but I love to learn more about selling resins to manufactures.

You should start by contacting the companies you're interested in. For GM, for example, you might start at their SupplyPower (http://www.gmsupplypower.com/apps/r4psanon/portal/dt?action=content&provider=HomePageContainer) site. You can find similar information for other companies using Google.

You do not need to buy something, the buyer will buy your products...

The Comodity buyers are the people in charge of selecting new suppliers and negociate the purchase orders, This is the first Step,

:bonk: :o Thanks.
Yes I should contact GM, Ford, etc. but as you already noticed I don't know much about plastic industry. (it's been 4month since i've started)
and before I start contacting GM or any other Auto Company. I want to know how the approval process goes and/or any other info I can get.
I heard I need to get approved to suppliy materials to T1 or T2 etc.
I've contacted injection molders to sell the materials and I found that I need the approval and/or certs.
currently I'm contacting distrobuters and it seems that we must have approval to go into the automotive market.

The point is that I want to gather as much information as possible about plalstic industry (automotive industry) that way I won't sound as dumb when i contact the manufacture.
I know i sound very dumb and everything but this is where I'm at, and I would love to improve myself to not to sound like I know NOTHING.

I appreaciate your help.

Hope you have a nice weekend.:whip:

The point is that I want to gather as much information as possible about plalstic industry (automotive industry) that way I won't sound as dumb when i contact the manufacture.
I know i sound very dumb and everything but this is where I'm at, and I would love to improve myself to not to sound like I know NOTHING.

It is not ever "dumb" to ask potential customers about their requirements. The customer is the best source.

Hope you have a nice weekend.

You too:agree1:

Thanks:agree1:

if you have doubt always ask:biglaugh: :cool:

May be it will be easier to contact with 2nd Level manufacturers suchs as

Delphi, Visteon, etc.

Due to first level (GM, FORD) are currently more assemblers than constructors.

:biglaugh: :bigwave: :lol:

Thanks for your help.:D
just one question do DelPhi require the automotive approval on the materials to supply to them or TS16949 Certs. is enough??
As always thanks for your help..
Have a GREAT day to all..:applause: :biglaugh:

Is DelPhi consider as Tier 1 or Tier 2?
Thanks :confused:

Tier 1, Car assamblers:

Toyota, GM, Ford, Renault, VOlswage, Etc.

Tier 2, Components builders:

Delphi, Visteon, etc...

Tier 3. Supplier that assist 2 line.

PPAP IS required for all.

PPAP the more required is firstly Level 3;

- PSW = Part Submition warrant.

- Material Certificate.

- Drawing.

_ Process capability study (CPk>1.65)

- Gage R&R

- AMFEC

- Process Flow chart

- Control Program.

- Packaging Sprecs.

You submit this package with intial samples and if they approve your product you can start mass production

You shouls have received the purchase order from Buyers of these companies

Tier 1, Car assamblers:

Toyota, GM, Ford, Renault, VOlswage, Etc.

Tier 2, Components builders:

Delphi, Visteon, etc...

Tier 3. Supplier that assist 2 line.

This is incorrect. The "Tiers" are suppliers. The OEM is not Tier 1; Tier 1 is the direct supplier to the OEM; i.e., the supplier that is paid by the OEM for the product. Tier 2 suppliers (and below) do not directly supply the OEM. Thus Delphi is, in the main, a Tier 1 supplier, but could also supply from a Tier 2 (or conceivably lower) position.

Sorry , I did not traslate well the words...

I translated Tier as Line...