Greetings all;

Could someone verify the levels of quality management system standards for me? Which came first? As I was told today, ISO 9001:2000 is "ranked" last, then QS-9000 is ranked 2nd, and TS-16949 is ranked 1st.

Engineering has asked us why we plan to register to ISO 9001:2000 instead of TS-16949. We were registered QS-9000 but it lapsed. So, we planned to register to ISO this summer.

Our customer specific requirements state that we are to be registered to TS but somehow our customers ( the big 3) okayed (possible?) our implementation plan to register ISO first, then TS next year. For some reason, I thought that QS was "old" and ISO is newer :confused:

Any comments?:bonk:

QS-9000 is the automotive standard based on and including ISO9001:1984. The ISO 9000 portion of the standard was replaced in 2000 by ISO 9001:2000. QS was allowed to carry on without updating to the new ISO standard. TS16949 is the new automotive standard and is based on and includes ISO 9000:2000. All tier 1 automotive suppliers are required to be certified to TS16949. Their suppliers must have at least ISO 9000:2000. QS-9000 is accepted until the expiration of the current certificate or December 31, 2006, whichever comes first and then they must be certified to ISO9001:2000 (at a minimum).

If you are tier 1 (supply the big 3), you are required to have 16949 but there is an allowance for transition to that point. The first step is certification to ISO 9001:2000 and compliance to 16949. The next step is certification to 16949 within a given time frame (I think it is 18 months). Your customer has probably OKed your transition plan as it falls within this time frame.

It should be noted that not all customers are following the above and if you are in doubt, you should ask your customer. I think DCX has already reached their deadline and no longer accepts QS.

Dave

QS-9000 is the automotive standard based on and including ISO9001:1984. The ISO 9000 portion of the standard was replaced in 2000 by ISO 9001:2000. QS was allowed to carry on without updating to the new ISO standard. TS16949 is the new automotive standard and is based on and includes ISO 9000:2000. All tier 1 automotive suppliers are required to be certified to TS16949. Their suppliers must have at least ISO 9000:2000. QS-9000 is accepted until the expiration of the current certificate or December 31, 2006, whichever comes first and then they must be certified to ISO9001:2000 (at a minimum).

If you are tier 1 (supply the big 3), you are required to have 16949 but there is an allowance for transition to that point. The first step is certification to ISO 9001:2000 and compliance to 16949. The next step is certification to 16949 within a given time frame (I think it is 18 months). Your customer has probably OKed your transition plan as it falls within this time frame.

It should be noted that not all customers are following the above and if you are in doubt, you should ask your customer. I think DCX has already reached their deadline and no longer accepts QS.

Dave
Thanks Dave! Much clearer to me now.

Regards,
KIDDO