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View Full Version : Scary stories - the REAL consequences of poor quality


Dave.C
28th March 2006, 11:40 AM
TS16949 requires us to ensure personnel whose work affects quality be informed about the consequences to the customer of shipping parts that are nonconforming to requirements.

Although we have reinforced the issues of complaints, potential loss in business, line stop, recalls or actual failures in the field to our employees, I would like to reinforce this education with real stories of real events and the real consequences.

May I ask Cove members to recount stories of their own personal experiences or incidents they have heard of?

I will start the ball rolling.

We are a Tier 2 supplier manufacturing a safety critical part that ends up on a well known 4x4.

Part of our manufacturing process involves the forming of a connector. Out of the blue our tier 1 customer rings us in a panic saying our parts are "popping off" vehicles as they are driven off the line.

The first thing that happens is our people are rushed to lineside to help sort the problem and avoid a linestop situation. Even our Sales director was sat lineside reworking parts.

Analysis of failed units revealed a dimension out of specification which was causing the part retention failure. Containment of suspect parts is immediate and root cause of the failure is traced to a tooling repair which affected the dimension.

Following the repair the part had been first off checked to all the critical dimensions and significant characteristics, and passed for production. The faulty dim was not one of those checked because our customer also manufacture an identical part themselves and was the design authority for the part. They identified all the critical dimensions and specified SPC on them, but the dimension in question was not covered by any of these checks. Our process FMEA didn't highlight the need for any further checks.

We were able to identify the date of the repair and isolate which batches of parts were affected, but traceability was hindered by our customer not recording any of our batch data supplied prior to using our parts in their assembly. Therefore traceability to which vehicles might be affected became a major cause for concern. Teams were then sent out in the field to dealerships and holding areas to replace parts on many many vehicles. Some valuable but hard lessons were learnt, but had the problem been any greater it would probably have shut us down.

Scary.:mg:

Who's next?

Wes Bucey
28th March 2006, 12:18 PM
Was the lesson learned really:
ANY change in production process should trigger a complete FIRST ARTICLE inspection (every dimension) and may also trigger a FUNCTIONAL TEST (including mating parts) before approving full production?

Most of my own tales involve customers who foul their own nests and try to place the blame on the supplier. Almost always the foulups involve internal communication failure where changes are not communicated to all affected parties.

One notable foulup involved a nickel-plated steel part which had a lip "swaged" by customer to hold in components after assembly. They replaced the swaging machine with one of a different manufacture and immediately began experiencing failure of the plating on the swaged lip. Customer blamed everyone from machinist to steel mill to plating company and cost everyone in the supply chain thousands and thousands of dollars in investigation costs before we learned about the swaging machine change. Ten minutes examination showed the problem was a rough tool surface on the swaging machine which was tearing up the plating.:bonk:
Turned out the customer's own Quality department had no notice of change in machinery and "assumed" nothing had changed in customer's process, thus looking externally for the cause of failure.

To answer some queries in advance:
No! Customer did not offer to reimburse supply chain for unnecessary expense.

tarheels4
28th March 2006, 02:09 PM
I was doing a EMS surveillance for a company 3 years ago that was QS-9000 registered. The QMS/EMS management representative had been there two weeks and the previous management representative had vanished without a trace 6 months before (I see letters to the editor in the local newspaper by this person on occasion).

The new guy showed me their calibration system and all there was was an empty binder titled "Calibration System". All the gages had calibration stickers. The new management rep said the guy just purchased stickers, dated them, and stuck them on the gages.

This kind of story makes me wonder how they got registered to QS-9000. And this registrar was not PJs folks.

Fortunately they didn't have any EMS monitoring equipment that required calibration.

Dave.C
29th March 2006, 03:23 AM
Was the lesson learned really:
ANY change in production process should trigger a complete FIRST ARTICLE inspection (every dimension) and may also trigger a FUNCTIONAL TEST (including mating parts) before approving full production?

Yep!:bonk: