Here are the links to the various forms:
Attached Files
4th Edition Part Submission Warrant.xls
4th Edition Dimensional Test Results.xls
4th Edition Material Test Results.xls
4th Edition Performance Test Results.xls
4th Edition Appearance Approval Report.xls (http://elsmar.com/Forums/showpost.php?p=142002&postcount=41)

4th Edition Product Process Change Notification.xls (http://elsmar.com/Forums/showpost.php?p=156136&postcount=18)
4th edition Truck Industry PSW edit2.xls (http://elsmar.com/Forums/showpost.php?p=151281&postcount=6)

Additional PPAP Dimensional Test Results MB.xls (http://elsmar.com/Forums/showpost.php?p=281448&postcount=13) modified to suit how we read stuff over here in NZ

Added FMEA 4th Edition Blank P and D FMEA sheets in Excel .xsl spreadsheets (http://elsmar.com/Forums/showthread.php?t=31822)
AddedControl Plan (http://elsmar.com/Forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=10023)

Thanks every one for contributing.
:applause:

How do I fill out the Dimensional test results so that the formulas work? Thanks a bunch!

Muchas gracias!
Has been helpfull have the PPAP 4th edition files ready to download.
Thanks.:applause:

Hello Howard,

New person here, I tried to open the PSW and receive an error message "file error - data lost". Any idea what the problem is?
Thanks in advance
Irene

Hello Howard,

New person here, I tried to open the PSW and receive an error message "file error - data lost". Any idea what the problem is?
Thanks in advance
Irene

Irene,

I had no problem opening the links and forms.
Check with your IT person (if you have one).

If that does not work, send me a PM with your email address and I can send you the forms you need.

Stijloor.

Hello Howard,

New person here, I tried to open the PSW and receive an error message "file error - data lost". Any idea what the problem is?
Thanks in advance
Irene

Welcome to the Cove. Go to this post (http://elsmar.com/Forums/showpost.php?p=142002&postcount=41) and right-click on the PSW attachment. Choose "Save Target..." and save the file to your desktop. Try to open it from there.

thank you very much Howard, valuable templates!

Thank you Howard for sharing this!
May God bless you for doing so... lol

I too have an issue with getting the Dimensional Report to work when entering nominal and upper / lower limits. The parts are always rejected when the dimensions are in tolerance.

I too have the same issue with formulas in the Dimensional Report. All the other information has been fantastic.

They seem to be all right to me.
I would like to remind you that they were given from the goodness of Jeff Henry's heart.
Please post an improved version if you have one

I too have the same issue with formulas in the Dimensional Report. All the other information has been fantastic.
try

c column the nominal value
E the lower tolerance with sign
F the upper tolerance

Thanks all for your responses, I had a bit of a play last night and worked out the the lower tol is first and then the upper tol (as the response said this morning). I have modified it to suit how we read stuff over here in NZ but as mentioned before the templates are great, so many thanks to all inmvolved.
I have attached my modified version created in Excel 2007 but saved as 2003 so it should work.

:thanks:

Thanks for those documents. Very nice.

Attached you find the Phased PPAP PSW as used by Ford. Basically the same as an other PSW, except for the 4 buttons on top.

Thought I'd share it with yous :D

So many variants on the documents but it gives so much more choice to tailor it to suit the company needs. Thanks for your Phased PPAP PSW.
We're gripped, we're sorted, let's go off road.

Response to chuachomvn, I cannot find the thread in the forum but the question was:
Sir,

what are APQP and PPQP? What do they used for and why do we need it. I am just a QE beginer!

APQP is Advanced Product Quality Planning and is a toll used by companies to prodcue a quality plan to assist and support the development of a product to ensure customer satisfaction.

PPAP (Production Part Approval Process) is a part of APQP and is used to ensure that the supplier has provision in place to consistently meet the requirements during a production run.

There is a ton of info contained in this forum and also on the web, you can also purchase the required APQP and PPAP information form AIAG.

Thanks

Murray

See first post for added files.
Thanks

Here are the links to the various forms:
Attached Files
4th Edition Part Submission Warrant.xls
4th Edition Dimensional Test Results.xls
4th Edition Material Test Results.xls
4th Edition Performance Test Results.xls
4th Edition Appearance Approval Report.xls (http://elsmar.com/Forums/showpost.php?p=142002&postcount=41)

4th Edition Product Process Change Notification.xls (http://elsmar.com/Forums/showpost.php?p=156136&postcount=18)
4th edition Truck Industry PSW edit2.xls (http://elsmar.com/Forums/showpost.php?p=151281&postcount=6)

Additional PPAP Dimensional Test Results MB.xls (http://elsmar.com/Forums/showpost.php?p=281448&postcount=13)modified to suit how we read stuff over here in NZ

Added FMEA 4th Edition Blank P and D FMEA sheets in Excel .xsl spreadsheets (http://elsmar.com/Forums/showthread.php?t=31822)

Thanks every one for contributing.
:applause:
THANK YOU HOWARD. I will be greatfull to you.:applause::thanx:

Howard,

Thank you very much. (I wrote my first post today!)

Do you know if there's a standard customer waiver form? My engineering group wants to revise the drawing and avoid PPAP if possible. So, we plan to prepare the "Product / Process Change Notification" as published in the PPAP 4th Edition Manual which provides a space for the "Expected PPAP Completion/Submission Date" but I don't see anywhere on the form where we can request an authorized customer signature instead, to waive the PPAP submission. Also, would it be appropriate for the sales rep to handle this or does engineering need to interface directly with the customer? This is our first time requesting a waiver. Any help would be appreciated.

Thanks again!

Howard,

Thank you very much. (I wrote my first post today!)

Do you know if there's a standard customer waiver form? My engineering group wants to revise the drawing and avoid PPAP if possible. So, we plan to prepare the "Product / Process Change Notification" as published in the PPAP 4th Edition Manual which provides a space for the "Expected PPAP Completion/Submission Date" but I don't see anywhere on the form where we can request an authorized customer signature instead, to waive the PPAP submission. Also, would it be appropriate for the sales rep to handle this or does engineering need to interface directly with the customer? This is our first time requesting a waiver. Any help would be appreciated.

Thanks again!

You must first notify the customer of the proposed/planned change.
Re-submission may be required unless waived by the customer.
Sorry. PPAP requirements are tough.

Stijloor.

Howard,

Thank you very much. (I wrote my first post today!)

Do you know if there's a standard customer waiver form? My engineering group wants to revise the drawing and avoid PPAP if possible. So, we plan to prepare the "Product / Process Change Notification" as published in the PPAP 4th Edition Manual which provides a space for the "Expected PPAP Completion/Submission Date" but I don't see anywhere on the form where we can request an authorized customer signature instead, to waive the PPAP submission. Also, would it be appropriate for the sales rep to handle this or does engineering need to interface directly with the customer? This is our first time requesting a waiver. Any help would be appreciated.

Thanks again!

There is no standard waiver form unless your customer has one. It would be best to speak with a customer representative. Which department handles the issue is a matter of personal preference. If you have persuasive sales people, that might be the way to go, but make sure they understand the technicalities before setting them loose.

My engineering group wants to revise the drawing and avoid PPAP if possible.
What kind of drawing revision are they wanting to make? If it affects the part form, fit, or function, then you should do a PPAP anyway even if you don't submit the data to the customer.
Also, would it be appropriate for the sales rep to handle this or does engineering need to interface directly with the customer?
Who normally works with the customer? There is no standard for who interfaces with the customer for PPAPs. Your organization can decide. Ideally you don't want too many people contacting them though...

Jim and Howste,

Thank you both very much for your quick replies! :thanx:

From what I understand, the change will not affect form, fit or function, but I will recommend that we PPAP anyway, and see if our sales rep can request the waiver.

Thanks again. :bigwave:

If the change doesn't affect form, fit, or function, then probably all you'd need to submit is a warrant (PSW) with an explanation of the reason for the change and why it doesn't justify any changes to PPAP information already submitted. The customer's approval of the warrant would be the waiver of the other PPAP requirements.

If your customer is Ford, you need to fill out a SREA(Supplier request for Engineering Assistance) form and contact your Ford STA for further direction. If not Ford, find out your customer requirements and contact the appropriate contact. Sales may be able to handle it. But whichever way you go make sure you get a customer signature and date or it could come back to haunt you later.
Many years ago I was out in the plant with a GM engineer and he was reviewing how our parts fit the car. He wanted to make a minor change on our part and told me what to do, and we made the change. Later a GM QC guy came in and said we didn't comply with the print because of the change. I told him the GM engineer told us to make the change, and he asked to see the marked and signed print showing the change. Well, duh, we didn't have anything in writing from GM authorizing any changes

Thanks so much for posting the forms, only wished I had looked here before making my own forms. :bonk:
Do the PPAP forms have to look exactly the forms in the manuals?:thanx:

Thanks so much for posting the forms, only wished I had looked here before making my own forms. :bonk:
Do the PPAP forms have to look exactly the forms in the manuals?:thanx:
I work in Medical (but am an ex Automotive person from England supplying Ford, Rover, Toyota, Nissan etc ) and have modified the form to suit our needs. Medical has no PPAP process as such in ISO13485 but some of the large American medical companies are using the term now, so I guess it is better to be proactive and implement first before they tell you what you must do.

I am extraordinarily patient provided I get my own way in the end. - Margaret Thatcher

I work in Medical (but am an ex Automotive person from England supplying Ford, Rover, Toyota, Nissan etc ) and have modified the form to suit our needs. Medical has no PPAP process as such in ISO13485 but some of the large American medical companies are using the term now, so I guess it is better to be proactive and implement first before they tell you what you must do.

Good idea. :agree1: Medical is pretty far behind in quality systems, but PPAP is one of the best things you can do to verify new part process and collect the appropriate data.

dear sir
we need version-4 control plan excel format.

Welcome to the Cove.

I am guessing you are looking for the AIAG PPAP Manual 4th Edition Forms, so I moved your post here. The forms are in post #1 (or just click here) (http://elsmar.com/Forums/showpost.php?p=158676&postcount=1).

thanks for the forms!!!!!!!:)

Thanks so much for posting the forms, only wished I had looked here before making my own forms. :bonk:
Do the PPAP forms have to look exactly the forms in the manuals?:thanx:

I am sorry but your question got overlooked some how.

There is no actual requirement but if they are radically different they might cause eyebrows to raise.

I suggest for your own sake stick to the format and save the questions:bonk:

Hello ,
I don't know why are in PSW and also in other PPAP forms the "company marks" /GM,DCh,F/ above.Is it only PPAP for this companies?
Best regards

Hello ,
I don't know why are in PSW and also in other PPAP forms the "company marks" /GM,DCh,F/ above.Is it only PPAP for this companies?
Best regards

No, these forms can be used by all automotive supplier companies and customers.
The "big" three: Ford, Chrysler and GM) originally designed these forms.

Stijloor.

Hello ,
I don't know why are in PSW and also in other PPAP forms the "company marks" /GM,DCh,F/ above.Is it only PPAP for this companies?
Best regards

These are the "originals" a lot of companies put there own logo instead.

Hi, do you have any form to comply with the PPAP requirement: Appearance Approval Report?
Please let me know, 'cause one customer is asking for such form and is something new for us.
Thanks a lot for any help.

There's one posted by jeffhenry here (http://elsmar.com/Forums/showpost.php?p=142002&postcount=41): 4th Edition Appearance Approval Report.xls (http://elsmar.com/Forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=4839)

where can i get TS 16949 manuals and core manuals in mumbai

The problem in buying from a AIAG (http://www.aiag.org) is the cost of postage.
I do not know if there is a resseller in India but try asking them