Anyone know the steps to becoming a Registrar?

--> Subject: Procedures and Requirements to set up QS registrar body
--> Date: Mon, 24 May 1999 01:00:23 +0700
--> From: cholong
--> To: Forum_Mail
-->
--> First of all, please allow me to introduce our organization, called
--> IATO, known as the Indonesian Society of Automotive Engineers,
--> established in 1978. IATO is the chapter of the Society of
--> Automotive Engineers (SAE) in Indonesia, and has approximately 390
--> professional members constituting of executives, managers and
--> professionals of Indonesian Automotive Industry and leading
--> university's researchers as well.
-->
--> For your information IATO conducted the Ninth International Pacific
--> Conference of Automotive Engineers in 1998, in Bali, and attended by
--> approximately 500 automotive professionals from all over the world.
--> The gathering discussed various topics of recent developments in the
--> automotive engineering and industry.
-->
--> Now that the application of QS 9000 for the automotive industry in
--> the US has become one of the crucial factors in improving the
--> quality of the automotive products and hence that our vendors should
--> comply with the QS 9000 to be eligible suppliers for the US market.
--> As the society that also deals with the enchancement of the quality
--> of automotive products in the country, we therefore are very keen to
--> know further information about the standard. We very much appreciate
--> if you could send us all information concerning all aspects of QS
--> 9000, including the requirements and procedures, to establish a QS
--> 9000 registrar body in Indonesia. IATO is contemplating to improve
--> its capabilities as a registrar body. IATO and its members are
--> committed and determined to implement the body as demanded by QS
--> 9000. Moreover, it would be very helpful if you could inform us
--> about the role of the SAE in the US as to the application of QS
--> 9000.
-->
--> We are looking forward to hearing from you soon. Should you need
--> more information please contact us at Facsimile No (62 21) 5252482
-->
--> Thank you very much for your kind attention and cooperation.
-->
--> Best regards,
-->
--> (Harjanto) Assistant Executive for Standardization and Industry
--> Commission Indonesian Society of Automotive Engineers

--> ...cholong wrote:
-->
--> Dear Mr. Marc T. Smith
-->
--> We very much appreciate if you could send us all information
--> concerning requirement and procedures to establish a QS 9000
--> registrar body. Please inform us what is the role of SAE in US
--> related to QS 9000
-->
--> Regards,
-->
--> Harjanto Assistant Executive for Standarization and Industry
--> Comission Indonesia Society of Automotive Engineers

I personally do not know the requirements and procedure for becoming a registrar. Contact the RAB for that information. You can get the number of the RAB from the ASQC or AIAG.

The RAB (Registrar Accreditation Board) is an AIAG (Auto Industry Action Group) off-shoot as I understand it, and the AIAG is related to the SAE. I really don't know the exact relationships in so far as each are really separate entities as far as I know. The ASQC (American Society for Quality Control) has a fringe relationship to the RAB I think.

Maybe some of the others can shed some light here on the actual relationships.

[This message has been edited by Marc Smith (edited 30 May 1999).]

I don't know the details for starting a registrar from scratch, but you can become involved with a registrar, and open an office for them easily. I work with URS out of the UK, and have a US office for them. I audited for them, and we had a good relationship (respect for each other, if you will) and they offered me the opportunity. I have a consulting company, so to keep things above board, I have someone running the office that is seperate from the consulting/training arm. if you would like that sort of arrangement, I can make the introduction/contact for you...or you could be an extension of the US office. Most registrars have the same offering, and their own rules as to "who" and how they authorize to do business in their behalf. I was already working with URS, so I had passed their scruitny before it came up. They tend to work with refferals and by thier experience with you. Then they have certain requiements for confidentiality and professionalism as well as independance. If you have a market lined up, it is fairly easy to become profitable. I have a small market, and this is a side line, so it will take me a bit longer. What I like best is the tie to all the latest information and the opportunity for professional enrichment. You would be surprised the kudos you get if you are supported/sponsored by a reputable registrar. Are you in it for the money or the availability of a local registrar to serve your needs. Obviously there is more money to be made with your own company, but the costs and drawbacks are many. In my situation, everything comes from the main office, we merely do the middle man stuff..and schedule work as they send the notices..no tracking, no billing, no files...therefore...no audits from UKAS/RAB etc. (unless our auditors are the soones in the sample...but the office is not audited, it only does sales and contract personnel)..it is atrade off...but one I am happy with.

An overview of the process for becoming an RAB accredited registrar may be found at their website, http://www.rabnet.com . The site also contains information on becoming a registed auditor, the RAB Auditor directory, RAB Registrar directory, and the lists of Course Providers for QMS and EMS.

The site also contains downloadable forms that are needed by auditors to log audit experience and CPD history as well as much more RAB related information.

[This message has been edited by Russ Jackson (edited 28 June 1999).]

Thanks for the info, Russ.