good morning all,

First post in the group here. so a bit about me first. I am the interim quality manager here at Laystrom MFG in Chicago Illinois. This is a position that was tossed upon me just recently due to our original QM jumping ship and running for the coast. In the meantime he left some open issues from our last recertification audit that need to be closed out. I have been able to "fix" and get some of the minors taken care of myself. There is one in particular that is a bit baffling to me and a little help would be very appreciated. HOpe someone can give me a bit of understanding on how to nip this one off.

In going through the Auditors report we had a minor nonconformance in regards to 7.4.1(Purchasing Process) Auditor"Criteria for selection, evaluation and re-evaluations and any necessary actions arising from the evalutation shall be maintained (see 4.2.4).

Procedure SOP 4.6.2 does not describe the criteria for re-evaluation of suppliers and the records of results of that evaluation. Recently updated supplier surveys have been requested from suppliers, but ther eis no process to address their responses.

If anyone could help me with some examples on how to resolve this and or word it that would be fantastic.

thanks
RH

good morning all,

First post in the group here. so a bit about me first. I am the interim quality manager here at Laystrom MFG in Chicago Illinois. This is a position that was tossed upon me just recently due to our original QM jumping ship and running for the coast. In the meantime he left some open issues from our last recertification audit that need to be closed out. I have been able to "fix" and get some of the minors taken care of myself. There is one in particular that is a bit baffling to me and a little help would be very appreciated. HOpe someone can give me a bit of understanding on how to nip this one off.

In going through the Auditors report we had a minor nonconformance in regards to 7.4.1(Purchasing Process) Auditor"Criteria for selection, evaluation and re-evaluations and any necessary actions arising from the evalutation shall be maintained (see 4.2.4).

Procedure SOP 4.6.2 does not describe the criteria for re-evaluation of suppliers and the records of results of that evaluation. Recently updated supplier surveys have been requested from suppliers, but ther eis no process to address their responses.

If anyone could help me with some examples on how to resolve this and or word it that would be fantastic.

thanks
RH

First off Welcome!!
Well to me it sounds as if the auditor didn't see anything written in the procedure for supplier re-evaluation. So the first thing to determine is how will this process function at your facility. You will need to add something to the procedure explaining this process and how it works. Next, flesh out the process. One suggestion would be to re-evaluate suppliers every 2 to 3 years. The surveys are sent out and when they are returned have someone in the Quality department review them for content. Do they meet your needs with the responses given? Next you could review their history for the past time period. Has their quality level been consistent? Delivery meet your needs, etc.
So I hope this helps at least to point you in the right direction.

Rick:)

Thanks ricky...for the welcome and the help. we already have a supplier evaluation process. not to cheat at all but would it be workable just to add reevaluation notes to that process as well..ie timeframe and a scaled down list of criteria that is along the same lines as the initial evaluation? honestly i haven't written many procedures so it is a bit daunting, especially with the deadline put to it.

Thanks ricky...for the welcome and the help. we already have a supplier evaluation process. not to cheat at all but would it be workable just to add reevaluation notes to that process as well..ie timeframe and a scaled down list of criteria that is along the same lines as the initial evaluation? honestly i haven't written many procedures so it is a bit daunting, especially with the deadline put to it.Yes you can add the revaluation to that process. How about reevaluating the supplier based on performance. There are many threads in the cove discussing this subject.

Thanks ricky...for the welcome and the help. we already have a supplier evaluation process. not to cheat at all but would it be workable just to add reevaluation notes to that process as well..ie timeframe and a scaled down list of criteria that is along the same lines as the initial evaluation? honestly i haven't written many procedures so it is a bit daunting, especially with the deadline put to it.

Yes, whatever works for your company, as long as you document it, should be acceptable. Check out Al's suggestion also.

Rick :agree1:

Yes, whatever works for your company, as long as you document it, should be acceptable...

Just one slight disagreement here. The standard (are you using ISO 9001?) doesn't require you to document the criteria, methods, or records in a procedure or anywhere else. You're not even required to have a documented procedure addressing 7.4.1.

The real nonconformity is that you don't have a process and records in place to meet the requirements. Implement something that addresses this and works for your company. If additional controls in your documented procedure helps to ensure that your system is effective for you, then do that too.

Please contact myself and I will send forms and data for correction.

Please review under quality our supplier quality manual for help.

Please contact myself and I will send forms and data for correction.

Please review under quality our supplier quality manual for help.

Welcome World Quality,

I noticed that you made similar offers in another one or two threads. Why not attached them here (after sanitized) for the benefit of current and future users and visitors. Thanks in advance.

As stated from the group re evaluation for the big three is evry year per there requirements or merdedes or BMW, etc.. If you are a second teir or third tier then you set your cirteria. Here is my supplier rements manual.
and a TS, process audit you can send out or complete at the supplier your self.