do you have any stories relating to thinking outside the box, let me share one with you i heard from a german friend...

A lady approached a loan office at the airport, and asked for a 1000Euros Loan, so the guy at the desk asked if she had a bank account, she replied "no, but i have my car, its a porsche, you could hold it if you wish"...so the loan guy took the car keys, gave the lady the loan, and one week later.... she entered the office, and asked for her car back, and as she was paying back the loan and the interest, the guy at the office asked her "hey, you know i did a check on you, and it turns out you're actually a billionaire, why do you need a 100 Euros loan?" ...another clerk from the loan office got her car from their parking lot and as she was riding her car replied to the other clerk "do you know how much it costs to park a Porsche in this airport for a whole week?"

do you have any stories relating to thinking outside the box, Not exactly stories, but have a look at this old thread, which certainly deals with thinking outside the box: How do we promote creativity? What are the Key Factors? (http://elsmar.com/Forums/showthread.php?t=6953)

/Claes

Thinking out of the box.


Imagine this...

You are driving along in your car on a wild, stormy night. It's
raining heavily when suddenly you pass by a bus stop, and you
see three people waiting for a bus:

1. An old lady who looks as if she is about to die.

2. An old friend who once saved your life.

3. The perfect partner you have been dreaming about.

Which one would you choose to offer a ride to, knowing very well
that there could only be one passenger in your car?
Think before you continue reading...


This is a moral/ethical dilemma that was once actually used as
part of a job application.


You could pick up the old lady because she is going to die, and
thus you should save her first;

or you could take the old friend because he once saved your
life, and this would be the perfect chance to pay him back.

However, you may never be able to find your perfect mate again.

The candidate who was hired (out of 200 applicants) had no
trouble coming up with his answer. Guess what his answer was?

I heard it before, so i'll be curious and waiting to see how others reply, just for the reocrd, when i first heard it my thought was:

I'll take the friend who saved my life, i rationalized it this way, the old lady has lived a lot of her life already, and between a friend who has proven his devotion, and an unknown perfect partner, i'd go with the friend

No sweat, I'd pick up the chick :) My friend would understand, and the old lady would probably as well :o One should never miss a chance for a little action :biglaugh:

I would save the old lady about to die. Hopefully my friend would see this as "paying it forward" and understand, and the young lady would see this as an example of my love and compassion for others and recognize that I'm not so shallow as to give into my lust at the expense of another.

I would save the old lady about to die. Hopefully my friend would see this as "paying it forward" and understand, and the young lady would see this as an example of my love and compassion for others and recognize that I'm not so shallow as to give into my lust at the expense of another.

Things change as we progress in life :rolleyes:

This gets more interesting...

So what was yours?

Never forget to "Think Outside of the Box."

Give my friend the keys, tell him to take old lady, stay with the girl. should give enough time to impress her. Friend drops off old lady, comes back gets out and allows me to take the girl home

Since there's probably a trick answer (if only one candidate got it "right") then I'll guess that you let the old lady and your friend take the car while you get out and wait for the bus with your perfect partner?

Assuming of course that one of them has a licence and your car is insured (wouldn't want Randy stopping them and issuing a ticket :) )

You want outside the box? This is probably as good as it gets
http://www.scaled.com/projects/tierone/index.htm

The box had been defined by NASA, The Russian Space program and hundreds of scientists, experts and voodoo wizards for years. These guys ripped the box to shreds and will continue to do so.

And for the answer:

The applicant simply answered: "I would give the car keys to my old friend
and let him take the lady to the hospital. I would stay behind
and wait for the bus with the partner of my dreams."

Sometimes, we gain more if we are able to give up our stubborn
thought limitations. Never forget to "Think Outside of the Box."



You want outside the box? This is probably as good as it gets
http://www.scaled.com/projects/tierone/index.htm

The box had been defined by NASA, The Russian Space program and hundreds of scientists, experts and voodoo wizards for years. These guys ripped the box to shreds and will continue to do so.

Nice one Randy. :agree1:

Since there's probably a trick answer (if only one candidate got it "right") then I'll guess that you let the old lady and your friend take the car while you get out and wait for the bus with your perfect partner?

Assuming of course that one of them has a licence and your car is insured (wouldn't want Randy stopping them and issuing a ticket :) )

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Au Contreau dear Baldrick. Thinking out of the box is not the same as logic.

There are more varations to this where I wouldn't necessarily have said either of those options demonstrated "out of the box" thinking.

Being a Devil's advocate (a Tongue in cheek approach also) my 'out of the box' approach would have required more definition/testing of the scope of the 'box' itself before you can change it"-

1. May have been going somewhere that I couldn't stop or deviate from a mission. Perhaps I am dying myself on the way to the hospital or am already carting someone there. Net Result is none of the 3 get a ride. :cool:

2. If an old lady is dying at a bus stop on a stormy night

a) how would I know that from driving by in my car ?:nopity: Am I going to cut down diagnosis by simly driving by ?

b) Assuming I am also sufficiently skilled to triage her should I pick her up? Would my amateur actions of throwing here in the car cause her worse damage ? :topic: Many additional injuries to motorcycle accidents are caused by non-qualifed personnel assisting in immediate accident but yet, do not realize that their actions, such as remove helmet by unskilled personnel, can cause permanent damage.

c) Do I know the area to get her to the hospital or am I likely to get lost? Would my driving 5 hours to get her to hospital 5 minutes away, contribute to her death?

d) Wouldn't it be better to just call for an ambulance from my car and wait for the ambulance ? Maybe bus stop is 5 minutes from the hospital.

e) maybe the old lady may be just be drunk rather than dying. I've looked like death after a hangover myself !!:notme: Wouldn't it be prudent to filter drunks from true emergencies ?

f) Besides what are those 2 other idiots at the bus stop doing if someone is dying next to them. One of them supposed to have saved my life but there is someone about the kick the bucket next to him, so get on with it.

3. Regarding my friend who saved my life and the hotty (no. 3) also on the bus stop .

How do I know that the friend isn't dating the hotty ? Wouldn't my friend or he be miffed if that was the case ?

Besides, why would a Hotty jump in the car of complete stranger offering a ride from a bus stop ? (If I was her, I'd wait for the bus. It would be safer..)

4. Another option (which the recruiter would not expect) would be to answer "I'd simply accelerate past the bus stop without stopping". A pugnaceuos adder would be I would also swerve into the rain puddles to splash all 3 of them to make their wait more miserable.(Perhaps we are all not that altruistic afterall. Besides this exercise sounds a rainy day not a Hurricane)

Why: Let's punish them for volunteering to be part of a hypothetical question anyhow?

If you were worried about your hypothetical friend later hypothetically recognizing you and why did you soak him, you would then just hypotethically claim ignorance that it was a dark night and you aqua-planed that dragged you towards to bus stop. You didn't see him so how could you stop. :tg: .

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I am done talking bus stops and which blind date you will take. However, Item 4 reminded me of a tale concerning an Oxford University (England) entrance interview.

Backgrounds is : Oxford competes with Cambridge to be #1 University system. Candidates who get that far are brightest in UK or arouhdn world so every serious candidate has potential for top grades. Decision to be admitted is discretionary.

Supposidly true tale: The Professor of an admission interview said to a prospective 18 year old student "OK, you have 5 minutes to make lasting impression on me". He then proceeds to light up his pipe and pick up his newspaper. (The newspaper on the UK is full size daily newspaper which covers the face and chest)

The student candidate wondering how he is going to make a lasting impression tries differnt attempt at dialog without response and looking around sees the answer. He picks up the professor's matches and set fire to the newspaper. :lol: :D

Needless to say, he got in.

Now THAT'S what I call thinking out of a box (albeit a matchbox..) :D

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"Au contreau"??? Isn't Contreau that funny orange liquer??? :confused:

I'm aware of the difference between logic and thinking outside the box, but they do have one thing in common - management rarely employ either when making critical decisions. :)

Finally, I once saw a job advert that almost made me physically sick. It went along the lines of...

"At XXX (name of company), we don't recruit people who think outside the box. We recruit people who say "what box?". :nope:

"Au contreau"??? Isn't Contreau that funny orange liquer??? :confused:



It's "Au contraire", I think :o

It's "Au contraire", I think :o

Darn it - I thought Murphy's Law was offering to buy me a drink...:)