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shaggy1812
20th September 2006, 05:34 PM
My new boss has asked me to create a written procedure for product changes. I have found several useful examples of ECN's here on the forum but I could really use a place to start in writing a procedure.

Thanks in advanced

RickRay
20th September 2006, 07:05 PM
Shaggy1812,

If you go here you can see an example of one.

Greg B
20th September 2006, 07:49 PM
My new boss has asked me to create a written procedure for product changes. I have found several useful examples of ECN's here on the forum but I could really use a place to start in writing a procedure.

Thanks in advanced

Welcome Shaggy. Could you please tell me what an ECN is? Where I work and ECN is 'Export and Customs Number' designed for international freight. If you are after a standard product change form then you may be a little disappointed. We can offer suggestions so that you can develop a change strategy within your process. What is your product? What criteria must be maintained? Do you want to change the overall specification or change a product mid process? Who will be the required to check off on the list? What departments will be effected? Will the test criteria change? Do you require additional test equipment or tooling? Can the product be sold? These are some of the basic questions you have to ask. I have attached product change form.. Note how it must be signed off by a variety of managers and a checklist must be completed.

Shaggy1812,

If you go here you can see an example of one.

http://www.bnl.gov/magnets/magnet_files/mdc/maps/RHIC-MAG-Q-1003.pdf#search='ecr%20procedure
Rick, your link is a dud!

shaggy1812
21st September 2006, 09:36 AM
Sorry, I've seen the ECN or ECR refering to engineering changes to drawing and product modifications. We purchase for resale as well as manufacture coated paper products. I currently work in a very informal environment where changes are kept on specific batch cards. I've been asked to put together an actual written procedure or work instruction to nail down how these changes (coat weight, paper type and basis weight, ect) are controlled and documented.

I've seen some fine examples here on the site of various forms used, but what I'm looking for is the work instruction or procedure behind the form.

Thanks
Shaggy.

ddunn
21st September 2006, 10:09 AM
ECN - Engineering Change Notice
ECR - Engineering Change Request
Also
ECO - Engineering Change Order

I've attached examples of processes for ECO generation and approval

Cari Spears
21st September 2006, 10:17 AM
If you go here you can see an example of one.
Hi, Rick -

I removed the link because it was making the page too wide for the computer screen and it was not working. We'd still love to see the example - wanna try to post the link again?

Thanks!

shaggy1812
21st September 2006, 11:25 AM
Cari, thanks so much. This is probably overkill for what I need but it certainly is a place to start which is what I need.

Greg B
22nd September 2006, 04:40 AM
Sorry, I've seen the ECN or ECR refering to engineering changes to drawing and product modifications. We purchase for resale as well as manufacture coated paper products. I currently work in a very informal environment where changes are kept on specific batch cards. I've been asked to put together an actual written procedure or work instruction to nail down how these changes (coat weight, paper type and basis weight, ect) are controlled and documented.

I've seen some fine examples here on the site of various forms used, but what I'm looking for is the work instruction or procedure behind the form.

Thanks
Shaggy.

Shaggy,
I don't want to rain on your parade but we can't write your Work Instruction beacuse we don't know your procedure. Who says a form can't be the procedure? IT CAN!!! Many of my instructions are simple forms or flowcharts. If you write out the form in the correct sequence of events, it captures the information required and informs people where to file this information then the form is a WI!!!! The training you give operators will ensure that they understand the rest. A WI should be a fraction fo the information that a person requires. The majority of Knowledge is life skills and in house training. I have seen far too many WI that just mimic a form or checklist. This just adds to the paper congestion and is another document that needs to be controlled. The easiest thing to do is flowchart the work required and then see if a simple form (better than the card you currently use) or Process flowchart will suffice. If it needs more information then dot point a WI and increase training.

shaggy1812
22nd September 2006, 03:49 PM
Greg, thanks for the insight. I think the light just came on here. My new boss wants a WI but I think, as you described, the design of the form would be more than adequate.

Shaggy