Hello:

Since I have only been in the Aerospace Industry for 3 years, and I need to pursue my Lead Auditor certification, I am trying to find sources for the Aerospace Industry Competency Course. It needs to meet the requirements of the AIR5493 and AS9014, section 7.2.2.1.

In my search of the great world wide web, I can only find one company (SAI Global) that provides the training. Does anyone know of any other sources out there? Or can anyone give me input on training they have attended through SAI Global?

Thank you,

Rebecca

Does anyone know of any other sources out there?
I went to the RABQSA website (http://www.rabqsa.com/rab/cpDirectorySearch.do?action=showSearchForm) and searched for the type of training you are looking for and came up with two entries. Excel is part of the SAI Group. Hope this helps.

BVQI (NA) Inc.
515 West Fifth Street
Jamestown NY 14701
United States

Contact: Krista France
Phone: 716-488-9185, Ext 111
Fax: 716-664-7219
www.bvtas.com (http://www.bvtas.com/)
krista.france@us.bureauveritas.com (krista.france@us.bureauveritas.com)

Certified Competency Units and/or Courses:

AS9100 Aerospace Industry Competency
AS9100 TailoredExcel Partnership Inc.
464 Heritage Rd.
Southbury CT 06488
United States

Contact: Sandra Borucki
Phone: 800-374-3818
Fax: 203-426-7811
www.excelpartnership.com (http://www.excelpartnership.com/)
xlp@xlp.com (xlp@xlp.com)

Certified Competency Units and/or Courses:

QMS 36-hour Lead Auditor - Aerospace, Automotive, FDA Regulated Industries, Laboratory, Medical Devices, Telecommunications
ISO 17025 Lead Assessor
AS9100 Aerospace Industry Competency
RABQSA-AU - Auditing Management Systems
Responsible Care Management Systems (RCMS)
AS9100 Tailored
RABQSA-QM - Quality Management Systems
RABQSA-TL - Leading MS Audit Teams
RABQSA-EM - Environmental Management Systems
RABQSA-OH - OHS Management Systems
AS9110 Aerospace Industry Competency
AS9110 Tailored
AS9100 Standard

Thank you, that does help.

I don't suppose you know the answer to this next question, then?

Am I reading the requirements correctly, that a person must be a certified ISO 9001:2000 QMS Lead Auditor? Or basically, to become a Lead Auditor in Aerospace, exactly what DO I need to do?

I do not want to spend money on one class, and then find out I needed to take steps 1, 2, and 3 before I took the class.

Thanks!

Rebecca

Please check the RABQSA Aerospace Auditor requirements at http://www.rabqsa.com/qb_as9100.html and download the Aerospace AS9100 Criteria & Guidance (http://www.rabqsa.com/docs/downloads/PCD37.pdf)

You should call them with your questions. They will be happy to (try to) explain to you the path(s) available.
http://www.rabqsa.com/cont.html

I just returned from the SAI Global AS9100 Lead Auditor class. It is certified by the RABQSA. To my knowledge there is no requirement to be a lead auditor in ISO 9001:2000 prior to taking the class, although it would certainly be an advantage as the AS9100 is based on and includes ISO9100:2000. There were a number of participants in the class who had done some internal audits and some with no audit experience at all. I think I was the only certified auditor in the class.

I would highly recommend the SAI class. Feel free to call either Joe DeCarlo, Vice President or Ben Tuley, Senior Consultant with any questions. Their toll free number is 1-800-374-3818. You are free to tell them Dave Scott recommended them if you think it will do any good.

Dave

Thanks Dave!

I feel better asking my company to spend money when I get recommendations.

I think my confusion comes/came from some of the trainer sites that are listing requirements that I am not seeing on the RABQSA, and I want to make sure I am not mis-interpreting anything.

I have a lot of auditing experience, even in the AS1900 standard, but I want to become "official". In the hopes it will make my job easier, or at least give me more ammunition during management discussions and decisions. (I know, wishful thinking, but one has to dream!)

Thanks again,

Rebecca

You're welcome. This course will certainly make you "official" if you pass the test at the end. They will provide the information you need to become an AEA (RABQSA Certified Aerospace Experience Auditor) - You can check the requirements at www.rabqsa.com

The course I took is a 5 day and meets the full requirements of SAE AIR5493, SAE AIR5359, section 7.2 and AS9104, section 7.2.

I don't think it is wishful thinking. I know it is making my job easier and it add another qualification to my resume for when I retire.

Good luck.

Dave