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Sean Kelley 14th November 2006, 05:41 PM Does anyone know of any good training that they would recommend for OHSAS 18001? Also are there any recommended books? I am quite new to this but have been through TS 16949:2002 and ISO 14001:2004 certification processes. It should be a similar approach but geared towards safety management at which I am still a rookie. Thanks for your help.:thanx:
Randy 14th November 2006, 07:39 PM Welllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllll, yeah I have a recommendation or two.
I'd go with an organization that has a great deal of experiance like eithe BSI or DNV.
If you go with BSI most likely you'd get me. If you go with DNV you'll have to settle for someone other than me.
Yew Jin 15th November 2006, 03:40 AM Recommend to hire a consultant to be a facilator on the OHSAS training.
In the training, the below element will be covered.
1. Conduct GAP Analysis
2. Set up Steering Committee meeting and Appoint Area Reps
3. Understanding & Implementing an Effective OHSAS18001 Management System (Area Reps)
4. Review & finalize EHS policy by Management
5. Review and produce Level 1 & 2 procedures
6. Review and produce Level 3 procedures
7. Electronic database & management system for paperless forms for assesment, auditing and management programs
8. Review and approval of EHS MS procedures by Management
9. EHS MS awareness training for Management, trainers, area reps and employees
10. Setup Environmental objectives, targets and EMP by EHS Committee
HIRARC training by EMC
11. Area reps conduct HIRARC
12. Setup OHS objectives, targets and OSHMP
13. OSHAS18001 internal auditors training
14. Prepare internal audit checklist
15. Area reps conduct internal audit
16. Conduct management review meeting
Other than that few training like chemical handling, safety health committee training, Emergency Response Team - Fire, Chemical & Evacuation training.
BSMITH 16th November 2006, 10:25 AM Like Randy, I also teach OHSAS 18001 classes; I'll put in a plug for one of the training providers that has been around the longest - AQS Management Systems (see http://www.aqsperformance.com/pages/laohs.htm). I teach for AQS and have had classes from both AQS as well as Excel Partnership and recommend both. I took my OHSAS 18001 Lead Auditor course from AQS and an OHSAS 18001 Implementation class from Excel Partnership.
A search for RABQSA certified training providers for an OHSAS 18001 Lead Auditor course in the U.S. results in only two: AQS and BSI: http://www.rabqsa.com/rab/cpDirectorySearch.do?action=showSearchForm IRCA also certifies training providers (www.irca.org); a search of IRCA's website also produces two: BSI and Bureau Veritas Certification. Excel Partnership is listed by RABQSA as certified for a course entitled OHS Management Systems.
I have done searches for books on OHSAS 18001 and there aren't many. One example is a book published by BSI -- Managing Safety the Systems Way by David Smith, Geoff Hunt, Clive Green. You can also do online searches for OHSAS 18001 Manuals; one example is the U.S. Department of Energy's Brookhaven National Lab; see http://www.bnl.gov/esh/shsd/OHSAS/OSH_Site_Master.asp
Brent Smith
Randy 16th November 2006, 10:52 AM BSI doesn't offer the IRCA accredited course in N. America even though it is authorized to present it. The RABQSA accredited auditor course made it through the process earlier this year and that's what you'll get in the USA, Canada, Mexico and other places this side of the Atlantic and Pacific.
As for the book authors...David Smith is a personal mentor and the book is pretty good.
Angela at SKF 22nd November 2006, 05:33 PM We used RMT in Michigan...they did a good job. They took 18001 & 14001 training and combined it using our corporate policy and procedures.
Jennifer Kirley 22nd November 2006, 06:15 PM I want you to understand there is a need to provide two levels of training in some areas. Take Lockout-Tagout training for example. Here are passages that describe affected and authorized personnel and training needs for both awareness and competence.
OSHAS 18001:4.4.2 (Training, awareness and competence): Personnel shall be competent to perform tasks that may impact on OH&S in the workplace. Competence shall be defined in terms of appropriate education, training and/or experience.
OSHA 29CFR 1910.147(c)(7)(i) The employer shall provide training to ensure that the purpose and function of the energy control program are understood by employees and that the knowledge and skills required for the safe application, usage, and removal of the energy controls are acquired by employees.
OSHA 29CFR 1910:147(c)(7)(iii)(A) Retraining shall be provided for all authorized and affected employees whenever there is a change in their job assignments, a change in machines, equipment or processes that present a new hazard, or when there is a change in the energy control procedures.
Affected refers to the person like machine operator, who must know what a red tag is and not to turn on a machine that bears one. The person applying the tag is the authorized individual, whose training needs to support competence. Since the law says retraining needs to occur when, for example the equipment is moved, it follows that the training should be on-the-job: put the tag or lock on this breaker over here (when a machine is moved to a new location using a different breaker).
Your records should reflect that this array of training is occurring, not just the awareness training offered by consultant groups and videos.
In this site (http://www.osha.gov/pls/oshaweb/owadisp.show_document?p_table=STANDARDS&p_id=9804)you can get your eyes on the language that directs what kind of training is needed. (Go to the Table of Contents to see the other elements like fall protection)
I hope this helps!
Randy 22nd November 2006, 07:36 PM Here's what every student gets to keep and take home as part of our course material.
OHSAS 18001:1999
OHSAS 18002:2000
ISO 19011:2002
BS 8800:2004
Paul Simpson 4th December 2006, 09:46 AM Welllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllll, yeah I have a recommendation or two.
I'd go with an organization that has a great deal of experiance like eithe BSI or DNV.
If you go with BSI most likely you'd get me. If you go with DNV you'll have to settle for someone other than me.
Not bad Randy - 3 plugs for you on the same page! :)
The last line says it all for me - if you like Randy you take the BSI course. If you don't like Randy you go elsewhere - hope you don't get trampled in the rush. :rolleyes:
On a more general point the first thing I would recommend is talking to the company's OSH people and understand what they see as key for control. As Jennifer said it is important to understand the role that legislation plays in OSHA and take those elements and build it into the management system. Anyone who understands the systems approach can build an OHSAS management system or, even better, an integrated system - even without having been on an OHSAS course!
Of course Randy's course would add that certain edge.
Randy 5th December 2006, 12:07 AM Not bad Randy - 3 plugs for you on the same page! :)
Of course Randy's course would add that certain edge.
Thank you Paul.:thanx:
I was taught a pretty good bit by David Smith who lives and works from Nottingham (Did I spell it correct?) David incorporated a good deal of information about Kings Cross and Alpha Piper as well as some other incidents into his systems program.
Clive Stallwood (who used to work for the BSi Inspectorate) also mentored me in 18001.
I had some good guidance which I only try to pass on.
Paul Simpson 5th December 2006, 03:43 AM Thank you Paul.:thanx: My pleasure. :bigwave:
I was taught a pretty good bit by David Smith who lives and works from Nottingham (Did I spell it correct?) David incorporated a good deal of information about Kings Cross and Alpha Piper as well as some other incidents into his systems program. You spelt Nottingham fine. I don't know David. He joined after I left. Re Kings Cross and Piper Alpha these are horrendous accidents that the inquiries said should lead to a much more systems (and management) lead approach to Health and Safety - and hence sit behind the OHSAS spec.
Clive Stallwood (who used to work for the BSi Inspectorate) also mentored me in 18001. I worked with Clive - he joined the develoment department just at the time I was leaving.
I had some good guidance which I only try to pass on. That's all we can ever do - good luck with the training - perhaps we can compare notes some time. The main training I do is for Axon Bywater. OHSAS, EMS and QMS.
Randy 5th December 2006, 09:19 AM How about Charles Corrie of BSi? We've been corresponding on the 18K revision.
Paul Simpson 5th December 2006, 09:38 AM I think we exchanged some correspondence in my last days at BSi. Charles was new to BSi at the time I was leaving.
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