Hi guys, :)

I just want to have your views as a refresher for me about the differences
between 1)correction 2)corrective action and 3)preventive action.

thanks a lot in advance.....:thanks: :thanx:

Oh by the way guys, during our internal audit our sheet contains spaces for
correction, corrective action, and preventive action that must be filled up by the concerned party whenever there is a non-conformance.
Is correction really needed and why? can it be removed?

Again many thanks in advanced.....:thanks: :thanx:

Here you go...By the way if you'd use available references like ISO 9000 minor things like this wouldn't escape you.

3.6.4
preventive action
action to eliminate the cause of a potential nonconformity (3.6.2) or other undesirable potential situation
NOTE 1 There can be more than one cause for a potential nonconformity.
NOTE 2 Preventive action is taken to prevent occurrence whereas corrective action (3.6.5) is taken to prevent recurrence.

3.6.5
corrective action
action to eliminate the cause of a detected nonconformity (3.6.2) or other undesirable situation
NOTE 1 There can be more than one cause for a nonconformity.
NOTE 2 Corrective action is taken to prevent recurrence whereas preventive action (3.6.4) is taken to prevent occurrence.
NOTE 3 There is a distinction between correction (3.6.6) and corrective action.

3.6.6
correction
action to eliminate a detected nonconformity (3.6.2)
NOTE 1 A correction can be made in conjunction with a corrective action (3.6.5).
NOTE 2 A correction can be, for example, rework (3.6.7) or regrade (3.6.8).

I like an answer that cites an authoritative source.

Oh by the way guys, during our internal audit our sheet contains spaces for
correction, corrective action, and preventive action that must be filled up by the concerned party whenever there is a non-conformance.
Is correction really needed and why? can it be removed?

Again many thanks in advanced.....:thanks: :thanx:The answer Randy gave you in your other thread http://elsmar.com/Forums/showthread.php?t=19644 should also answer this one. You needed to be clear on the differences between the terms. When something does NOT apply, you can always just enter "NA"

The point is, "Sometimes" it will be applicable!

Hi guys, :)

I just want to have your views as a refresher for me about the differences
between 1)correction 2)corrective action and 3)preventive action.

thanks a lot in advance.....:thanks: :thanx:

Dear Sir,
I will try to explain with a small example. Suppose you have allergy to dust & catch cold & have fever.
1.Correction. You take medicine & get well. This is correction.
2.CA. From next time onwards you use methods so that you are not affected by dust.
3.PA. In the same case let us you are married & have a small son/daughter. As yet you do not know whether your baby also suffers from the same dust allergy. So you go the doctor & have a test conducted for your baby to check if your baby is also likely to suffer from the dust allergy in future.
Hope to some extent you have understtod the diiference.
Major B V Naik

again many thanks top you Randy, Wes & Major.

:) :D :thanx: :agree1:

Consider this Example:
You are walking on the road & find a banana skin on the road.
Impact: You will fall down if you stamp on it.

Correction: Jump over the banana skin or chanage the direction of walk.

Corrective Action: Throw the Banana skin to the road side so that next time u walk in, u dont fall.

Preventive Action: Throw the Banana skin in the Waste Bin to the road side so that no one else fall, including you.

Cheers!
Madhavan
Silicomp India Pvt Ltd.
:agree1:

Consider this Example:
You are walking on the road & find a banana skin on the road.
Impact: You will fall down if you stamp on it.

Correction: Jump over the banana skin or chanage the direction of walk.

Corrective Action: Throw the Banana skin to the road side so that next time u walk in, u dont fall.

Preventive Action: Throw the Banana skin in the Waste Bin to the road side so that no one else fall, including you.

Cheers!
Madhavan
Silicomp India Pvt Ltd.
:agree1:

No accident has occurred here therefore the correction and corrective action is not required. If you slipped on banana skin then it would be a correction and corrective action (no PA can be initiated as you preventing recurrence)

CA and PA are two seperate activities you cannot initiate a PA if a CA has been put in place and vice versa.

Consider this Example:
You are walking on the road & find a banana skin on the road.
Impact: You will fall down if you stamp on it.

Correction: Jump over the banana skin or chanage the direction of walk.

Corrective Action: Throw the Banana skin to the road side so that next time u walk in, u dont fall.

Cheers!
Madhavan
Silicomp India Pvt Ltd.
:agree1:

I suggest the following:

* Correction : Bandage yourself and get some medication for the pain

* Corrective action : you actually FELL on the banana , so the corrective action is after falling to remove the banana from the road so that neither you nor anyone else falls on it

also if u wanna go into deeper root cause analysis , you could see that there was no trash bins in the area so the bananba was on the road because there was no place to throw it , and the corrective action could be ...

- Install trash bins near the road
- put signs " dont throw bananas on the road "


* Preventive action : have people watch the road and IF someone throws a banana on the road pick it up and throw it in trash

just my :2cents:

No accident has occurred here therefore the correction and corrective action is not required. If you slipped on banana skin then it would be a correction and corrective action (no PA can be initiated as you preventing recurrence)

CA and PA are two seperate activities you cannot initiate a PA if a CA has been put in place and vice versa.

:) Hi guys I'm new to this forum. But just would like to add to discussion is we must also address RC=Root cause to the action. Believe me we may have to change the CA based on the root cause. This was my experience as MR for BVQI audits in last 4 audits. Thanks