francesca
20th March 2007, 07:09 AM
Hi all,
I'm new comer in this elsmar.
My question is:
what is FMEA II generation?
what is the difference between FMEA and II generation FMEA?
Thanks for your help
Francesca
Bill Ryan
20th March 2007, 08:54 AM
Welcome to the Cove, Francesca :bigwave:
Let me start off by saying I've not heard of the term "FMEA II generation". Perhaps if you describe in what context you heard the term, it could help.
francesca
20th March 2007, 09:59 AM
Dear Bill
Yesterday I received a questionnaire from ANFIA (national association of automotive societies ) SERVICE s.r.l. - Italy - related to the use of FMEA.
The last question is:
"Do you know a new methodology named second generation FMEA ?"
I didn't hear it, for this reason I asked your help
I made a search on Internet, I found some articles but I didn't find a clear explanation
Francesca
Bill Ryan
20th March 2007, 10:28 AM
I checked out the ANFIA site and, of course, if I wanted to learn about this it would cost some $$$$. Is your organization a member of ANFIA? If so, I would probably contact them for information.
As I mentioned, I haven't heard of this before, so had the questionnaire been sent to me from AIAG, I would mark the question as "No" and then wait for them to send me something inviting me to a seminar to learn about this new method. Although I'm all for improving existing methods, unless a customer was specifically demanding it, I would probably not get too excited about it.
We have some Italian members here - have any of you heard of this?
antoine.dias
20th March 2007, 12:12 PM
Dear Bill
Yesterday I received a questionnaire from ANFIA (national association of automotive societies ) SERVICE s.r.l. - Italy - related to the use of FMEA.
The last question is:
"Do you know a new methodology named second generation FMEA ?"
I didn't hear it, for this reason I asked your help
I made a search on Internet, I found some articles but I didn't find a clear explanation
Francesca
Welcome to the cove Francesca.
If you do a search in the attached handbook you will find the explanation of a " Level II " and even a " Level III " FMEA.
The file can be found on the FMEA infocentre site :
http://www.fmeainfocentre.com/search.htm
Hope this helps,
Best regards,
Antoine
bpritts
20th March 2007, 01:21 PM
With respect to Antoine I would offer another possible answer to this question. As I understand the SEMATECH document, the Level II and Level III FMEA's refer to creating FMEA's for components that make up a product
in addition to a general FMEA for the product overall (think of a bill of materials, with FMEA's at each level.)
Some years ago (2001), the GM/Ford/ Daimler Chrysler people revised the FMEA manual and format. This was actually the 3rd edition of the automotive
manual... although the 1st and 2nd edition manuals did not change the FMEA form. I still see some FMEA's that use the earlier, 1st and 2nd edition formats. In the US we refer to this as third edition FMEA.
Regards..........Brad
Michael Walmsley
21st March 2007, 03:45 PM
Is'nt a generation II FMEA one which has been reviewed and approved by Jean Luc Picard???:notme:
Bill Ryan
21st March 2007, 05:11 PM
Is'nt a generation II FMEA one which has been reviewed and approved by Jean Luc Picard???:notme:
:lol: :applause:
Soooo Francesca - Have we helped? I don't know that Antoine's answer helps you because of the term "generation" (which, in my eyes, is completely different than the term "level"). I guess I'm staying with my original response - I've not heard of a Generation II FMEA. If you find out what it is, please stop back and let us know.
francesca
23rd March 2007, 10:28 AM
Bill
I agree on your comment related to the Antoine's answer; I will continue my search on Internet or in other places. If I will find some information, I'll write here on this forum.
Thanks for your answer and interest
Francesca
Bill Ryan
23rd March 2007, 01:30 PM
Bill
I agree on your comment related to the Antoine's answer; I will continue my search on Internet or in other places. If I will find some information, I'll write here on this forum.
Thanks for your answer and interest
Francesca
You're welcome and Thank you. Wish I could have been more helpful.
Don't be a stranger around here.