Quality-Misfit
21st March 2007, 03:51 PM
Can anyone expalin or show me an example of what is suppose to go in a manufacturing plan? I trying to put one together for our widgets and I'm at a lost.
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View Full Version : What is a manufacturing plan? What goes into a manufacturing plan? Quality-Misfit 21st March 2007, 03:51 PM Can anyone expalin or show me an example of what is suppose to go in a manufacturing plan? I trying to put one together for our widgets and I'm at a lost. Thanks Bobh@pte 21st March 2007, 05:10 PM Generally it is a process sheet which has a list of operations that need to be performed to make your widget. i.e. op # 100 Get material 110 Heat treat 120 grind 130 Inspectiion 140 Mill 150 Etc... Benjamin28 21st March 2007, 05:14 PM You may find this article useful... http://www.tcnj.edu/~rgraham/rhetoric/manufacturing-plans.html KWalls 21st March 2007, 05:55 PM Quality Misfit, I have a fairly detailed one that I would be willing to share... PM me and I'll see if it is something you could use. I was in your shoes just a few weeks ago. We are working on a large project with another company that required a manufacturing plan. Had no idea where to even start because the spec that gave me the info was way too detailed and confusing. :) Let me know if you are interested. Quality-Misfit 22nd March 2007, 12:00 PM You may find this article useful... http://www.tcnj.edu/~rgraham/rhetoric/manufacturing-plans.html The mfg plan that our Aerospace OEM wants is not a traveler or workorder, I tried that and it was rejected. They want something more of these lines. Has anyone ever written a document like this? Thanks, quality-misfit KWalls 22nd March 2007, 12:09 PM Maybe that's why I haven't heard anything back from my customer yet on my "plan"? LOL! I guess I will be watching this thread quite closely now, won't I? :D al40 29th March 2007, 08:01 AM I don't think you'll ever get anyone to post an example of a manufacturing plan as it is like a business plan and most likely confidental. Best regards, al40 andygr 29th March 2007, 08:05 AM The mfg plan that our Aerospace OEM wants is not a traveler or workorder By chance is it the new requirement for Boeing 787? If so let me know and I will try and lead you astray. There is also an part configuration requirement reporting by shipment that is not well identifed but required. Quality-Misfit 29th March 2007, 10:30 AM The mfg plan that our Aerospace OEM wants is not a traveler or workorder By chance is it the new requirement for Boeing 787? If so let me know and I will try and lead you astray. There is also an part configuration requirement reporting by shipment that is not well identifed but required. Yes, it is for Boeing any help you can provide will be appriciated. :thanks: quality-misfit andygr 29th March 2007, 10:54 AM First get a copy of the D606Z002 document if you do not have it. Ask your PQA they can get it. Your insomnia will now be cured forever. Notice that it uses the word "should" and not shall. It is a guidline only! You have latatude on how you will document and implement it. There is a unofficial template floating around that your PQA might be able to supply. It is a starting point but I did not find it to be what we needed. What you want to look at is the QA review template your Boeing QA rep should have suppled when they reviewed the plan you supplied allready ( There is no form number on this just a title). If you have not submitted anything ask for it. This document will identify what the minimum requirements are and what they saw was missing from what you supplied allready. This template is only 2 pages as opposed to the 100+ page D6 document and gives the cliff notes of what is needed. Use it as the outline for you plan. Start with the Key's on your product based on a SCD or your own internal requirements and then any of the known open risks identifed in your program reviews. Track to what you are doing to make sure that you have addressed to get to the required <50 by the time you deliver parts that will go on the launch aircraft to be delived in May 08 (it is not by the roll out date of the first aircraft which is scheaduled for 07/08/07 which is their play on the aircraft model number ;) Hope this helps get you started. PM me if you need more. Quality-Misfit 29th March 2007, 12:21 PM First get a copy of the D606Z002 document if you do not have it. Ask your PQA they can get it. Your insomnia will now be cured forever. Notice that it uses the word "should" and not shall. It is a guidline only! You have latatude on how you will document and implement it. There is a unofficial template floating around that your PQA might be able to supply. It is a starting point but I did not find it to be what we needed. What you want to look at is the QA review template your Boeing QA rep should have suppled when they reviewed the plan you supplied allready ( There is no form number on this just a title). If you have not submitted anything ask for it. This document will identify what the minimum requirements are and what they saw was missing from what you supplied allready. This template is only 2 pages as opposed to the 100+ page D6 document and gives the cliff notes of what is needed. Use it as the outline for you plan. Start with the Key's on your product based on a SCD or your own internal requirements and then any of the known open risks identifed in your program reviews. Track to what you are doing to make sure that you have addressed to get to the required <50 by the time you deliver parts that will go on the launch aircraft to be delived in May 08 (it is not by the roll out date of the first aircraft which is scheaduled for 07/08/07 which is their play on the aircraft model number ;) Hope this helps get you started. PM me if you need more. Can you post the template? We don't have the D606Z002 yet, I'll request it but our PQA is kinda slow about getting back to us and I have to have this stuff done by 04/06/07.:frust: :thanx: quality-misfit andygr 29th March 2007, 12:36 PM First hint on the plan is that the 4/6 date is not going to happen unless you have very simple product you are producing. You have the best caviat in that with out the D6 document there is no way that your rep should have the clock started on you completion. You are just shooting in the dark to meet their expectations. They are looking for detail and getting very antzy about it. I would put my first milestone as "when the D6 document is received review of requirements will begin est time 1 week", "Plan outline over the next week or so". This should get you some time. With 463 aircraft on book and more comming in all the time they have no recovery room in the delivery scheadule so they are getting a bit nervous seeing what happened to AirBus. Work to get an over all plan started on what it will take to put this document all together by the elements in the check list attached and then some follow on progress dates to cover when you can have things completed as you move thru the various elements. Quality-Misfit 30th March 2007, 10:21 AM First hint on the plan is that the 4/6 date is not going to happen unless you have very simple product you are producing. You have the best caviat in that with out the D6 document there is no way that your rep should have the clock started on you completion. You are just shooting in the dark to meet their expectations. They are looking for detail and getting very antzy about it. I would put my first milestone as "when the D6 document is received review of requirements will begin est time 1 week", "Plan outline over the next week or so". This should get you some time. With 463 aircraft on book and more comming in all the time they have no recovery room in the delivery scheadule so they are getting a bit nervous seeing what happened to AirBus. Work to get an over all plan started on what it will take to put this document all together by the elements in the check list attached and then some follow on progress dates to cover when you can have things completed as you move thru the various elements. Can you repost the document based on our discussion? :thanks: quality-misfit andygr 30th March 2007, 10:28 AM Here you go. I will put the review template up for today. Atachment removed PM me if you need it Quality-Misfit 30th March 2007, 10:32 AM Here you go. I will put the review template up for today. You are a blessing.:applause: I talked with my PQA and he said he was unaware of this template but he is sending us the offical document today and he gave us an extension on the deliverable. Thanks for your advice. andygr 30th March 2007, 10:36 AM I try to help those who want to be helped. One thing I do better than most is serve as a VERY good bad example!:bonk: Good luck with your plan. al40 30th March 2007, 10:52 AM You are a blessing.:applause: I talked with my PQA and he said he was unaware of this template but he is sending us the offical document today and he gave us an extension on the deliverable. Thanks for your advice. QM, I think you'll fine that andygr is one of the most experienced individuals about aerospace OEMs, cmm capabilities, Lab analysis/calibration, and GDT here in the Cove. I would trust his advice.:D Lot's of luck, al40 KWalls 30th March 2007, 11:27 AM Yes, it is for Boeing any help you can provide will be appriciated. :thanks: quality-misfit Quality-Misfit, Can you email me @ the email address you have for me? The sources to get in touch with you here on the Cove are exhausted... I want to help, but can't if I can't get in touch with you... Thanks, Kyle Quality-Misfit 30th March 2007, 11:52 AM Quality-Misfit, Can you email me @ the email address you have for me? The sources to get in touch with you here on the Cove are exhausted... I want to help, but can't if I can't get in touch with you... Thanks, Kyle Will do. Our organization has pulled all access to the internet. I will only have access to our intranet from the manufacturing floor from now on. So I will only to be able to log on after 17:00 PST (after I'm Home). Sorry I won't be able to access or email you until this evening. quality-misfit KWalls 30th March 2007, 05:52 PM Got your message this am, however, I will be out of the office by 17:00 PT. I am sorry that I can't help. It didn't get posted anyway... you'll have to take it up with the original poster. Again, I'm so sorry!!! ~kyle |
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