I recently was talking to a QM about QMS and he said someone has requested conformance to this MQ12005. I googeled it and did not find any real defining info about it. I saw where one company lists it along with other QMS certifications.

I recently was talking to a QM about QMS and he said someone has requested conformance to this MQ12005. I goodeled and did not find any real defining info about it. I sawwhere one company lists it along with other QMS certifications.

May be it the document number of some company's quality system requirements ....

Shall see if I get more details

MQ 12005 is a Caterpillar Quality Certification process that is not yet finalized and supposedly will include but go beyond ISO/TS-16949:2002 requirements. The process will have 4 levels of certification based on the attainment of various metrics. The levels are Bronze, Silver, Gold, and Platinum. Happy hunting!

MQ 12005 is a Caterpillar Quality Certification process that is not yet finalized and supposedly will include but go beyond ISO/TS-16949:2002 requirements. The process will have 4 levels of certification based on the attainment of various metrics. The levels are Bronze, Silver, Gold, and Platinum. Happy hunting!

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Thanks for the info. I did searches in Google, yahoo etc and found the reference of MQ 12005 with Caterpillar too. Btw, do you have the soft copy of this Quality System ?

I do not have a soft copy as yet, since they have not finalized and published it. However, this is what I do know: You must be "compliant" to TS-16949. You must have six sigma as part of your culture and have improvement projects in progress. You must meet various metrics which include delivery, % dollars rejected and ppm levels of quality, on-time PPAP submitals, Cpk requirements for "special" characteristics as noted on prints, capacity planning model, and not causing CAT to generate product deviations due to supplier issues. Obviously, each category gets tougher as you proceed from Bronze to Platinum. Let's just say if you reach Platinum, you are about as close to perfection as is possible (i.e. ppm < 10, on-time delivery = 100%, CPks all above 2.0, etc.). I hope this helps!

I do not have a soft copy as yet, since they have not finalized and published it. However, this is what I do know: You must be "compliant" to TS-16949. You must have six sigma as part of your culture and have improvement projects in progress. You must meet various metrics which include delivery, % dollars rejected and ppm levels of quality, on-time PPAP submitals, Cpk requirements for "special" characteristics as noted on prints, capacity planning model, and not causing CAT to generate product deviations due to supplier issues. Obviously, each category gets tougher as you proceed from Bronze to Platinum. Let's just say if you reach Platinum, you are about as close to perfection as is possible (i.e. ppm < 10, on-time delivery = 100%, CPks all above 2.0, etc.). I hope this helps!

PCIM..thanks for the info on the systems requirements. The QM I was talking with is anticipating some new business with Caterpillar.

I recently was talking to a QM about QMS and he said someone has requested conformance to this MQ12005. I googeled it and did not find any real defining info about it. I saw where one company lists it along with other QMS certifications.

MQ12005 is an Internal Certification Program used by Caterpillar Inc.

There will be no results found within any search engine for MQ12005 Certification as this is an internal Caterpillar Process which works really well for not only the quality standards in the workplace but increases customer satisfaction. It alsos drives continous improvement and motivates employees to work to there highest capabilities.

Recently as part of a new position I became involved with the CAT SQEP process. Fundementally most of the requirements dovetail into TS 16949. Unfortunatly as many large companies go, there is a leaning toward trying to run thier suppliers business. I saw it from GM when Lopez took over purshasing, and with every new intiative the traditional big three started. Fundementally small companies will benefit with things such as six sigma, lean etc, but the model or formulas expected will if complied with will drive the little guys into bankruptcy. Prime example can be found in Detroit and thier supply base. Thus, let's continue to drive manufacturing off shore to China or other areas that since they can seemly comply with some of the requirements (even if it is a fasade) and the MBA become happy because "They" have something to put on their resume. Look at me and my accomplishment, even though it bankrupted companies doing their best to comply with the customers expectations.

I do not have a soft copy as yet, since they have not finalized and published it. However, this is what I do know: You must be "compliant" to TS-16949. You must have six sigma as part of your culture and have improvement projects in progress. You must meet various metrics which include delivery, % dollars rejected and ppm levels of quality, on-time PPAP submitals, Cpk requirements for "special" characteristics as noted on prints, capacity planning model, and not causing CAT to generate product deviations due to supplier issues. Obviously, each category gets tougher as you proceed from Bronze to Platinum. Let's just say if you reach Platinum, you are about as close to perfection as is possible (i.e. ppm < 10, on-time delivery = 100%, CPks all above 2.0, etc.). I hope this helps!


PCIQM has the MQ 11005 distilled here very well. I sat through a SQEP (Supplier Quality Excellence Program) presentation today and have received a great deal of material on this program. Unfortunately all of the material is considered "Confidential" and therefore I will not be able to post / attach them for public dissemination. The OP inquired regarding MQ 12005 which is CAT's internal certification process they use at the plant level. They have modified their position on 6 sigma somewhat to include a slightly broader scope of Continual Improvement processes that can be loosely defined to fit the roles that are identified within the SQEP process, (ie; 6 Sigma Black Belt = Project Manager or Process Improvement Coordinator). Other areas may also have undergone some modifications of their initial position but this one kind of stood out to me. I will be dissecting these documents to determine how / if we want to try and fit into the program as I get time. I will try to update this information with other general & non-confidential information as I do so. Key word is try :bonk: