Today when I clicked on "Since Last Visit" instead of the last week I got all the posts since January.
Is this a planned changed?

There haven't been any changes other than the 'spam button' addition, but there's a very low chance that would affect anything.

I can almost guarantee it's a cookie issue.

Anyone else with this issue?

I'm seeing the same thing, Howard. I'll see if I can figure out what is going on. This might have a connection with the issue of all subscribed threads showing in the UserCP as reported by Qualityalways.

When I click the "User Control Panel", I get all old subscribed posts (http://elsmar.com/Forums/showthread.php?t=21165)

Did you just notice this start happening, like within the last 24 hours by chance?

Try this and see what happens. Please monitor for a couple days and give me feedback.

Go to the forum home page. Go to the top most navbar where it says "Quick Links" (the link is sorta brownish). It's a 'drop down' menu. Click on "Mark Forums Read".

Let me know what happens.

This link Mark Forums Read (http://elsmar.com/Forums/forumdisplay.php?do=markread) should do the same thing.

Try this and see what happens. Please monitor for a couple days and give me feedback.

Go to the forum home page. Go to the top most navbar where it says "Quick Links" (the link is sorta brownish). It's a 'drop down' menu. Click on "Mark Forums Read".

Let me know what happens.

This link Mark Forums Read (http://elsmar.com/Forums/forumdisplay.php?do=markread) should do the same thing.Just an FYI: I click that link after every visit and my "since last visit" and "user CP" BOTH work fine. I echo Marc that it may be a cookie issue, but I can't imagine why we have only scattered reports unless users have recently cleaned out ALL cookies on their machines or are accessing from a new machine which doesn't have old cookies.

:topic: I hope this issue is NOT part of April 1 prank.

Nope - Not a 'prank' on my end.

These are the current settings:

http://elsmar.com/gif/Thread Marking Options.gif

Also see: Since Last Visit view and Subscribed Threads in the UserCP - Changes (http://elsmar.com/Forums/showthread.php?t=13662)

With out doing anything it has gone back to a week as it was before.

I'll take a look, but I think that's the way it's supposed to work.

I'll check some other vB boards I visit today and see how they work. The setting is for 14 days right now.

The line "The threads below have not been updated since your last visit but still contain unread posts." delineates posts since 'Last Visit'. The rest are 'UnRead' threads you are subscribed to I think.

I noticed it last week too. Clicking on my normal "since last visit" gave me about 70-90 pages, versus the normal 15 or so.

Today it's back at 15.

I've just logged in and the Since Last Visit link works fine for me.

Interesting, today when I got here it said last here 21 hours ago.

Then when I clicked the link, at the very top the "following haven't been updated but contain..." message was above every topic, the first was within like 15 minutes ago...

Hmmmmm.....

Marc,

Mine's funky too - have linked jpeg for view.

Interesting, today when I got here it said last here 21 hours ago.

Then when I clicked the link, at the very top the "following haven't been updated but contain..." message was above every topic, the first was within like 15 minutes ago...

Same thing here - when I go to "since last visit" it shows "1 minute" since my last visit - no biggie.

Using IE6

I *think* this is related to the statistics hack (http://elsmar.com/Forums/showthread.php?t=7209) which I put in to try again. I want to leave it at least until the 15th to check it against another stats program I have. I thought this might happen.

As for the picture, where there's a divider line between posts both of which list as having been 2 hours ago - Technically it's set to give a 'relative' time rather than an exact time, so technically you could have 2 posts looking at the time/date and one if say 15 minutes earlier than the next and so if you visited 30 minutes ago both will read the same as they're using a 'relative' interpreter.

The Since Last Visit issue is a bit confusing. If I go to the vBulletin forum, where I *know* it's working as planned and designed, unless I mark all forums read before I leave (which I never do), I get a lot of posts going back 3 days. I think that's what they have their limit set at (see Post 7 herein (http://elsmar.com/Forums/showpost.php?p=189515&postcount=7).

Heve is the setting explaination:

http://elsmar.com/gif/Thread and forum marking 070410.gif

As I read through the vBulletin.com and vBulletin.org sites, at some point there will be a line between posts which, as in the picture above, it says "The threads below have not been updated since your last visit but still contain unread posts." Then, on each page that follows, the same "The threads below have not been updated since your last visit but still contain unread posts." appears. But - unless I 'Mark All Forums Read' manually I get 3 days of posts on each board.

Back when we first discussed this some years back (at the time vBulletin went to version 3.5), the idea was that (at least in my mind), 2 weeks would be an appropriate 'time out' duration. If I remember correctly Wes advised 7 days which I have to admit is probably better than the 14 I set it at. But then again, the 'getnew' database call isn't what I really expect. I expect to see 30 days of threads if I haven't visited in the last 30 days. And if I visited 2 days ago, I'd expect to see 2 days of threads.

I'm not sure if my logic is faulty, if I am misunderstanding some of the software settings or what, but the bottom line is the 'getnew' call has to be interpreted with the 'mark forums/threads read' function.

It could be that if I checked the 'cookie' option (the pre-vBulletin release 3.5 method) that the only threads that will come up on the'Since Last Visit' link (which calls the 'getnew' function) will be threads since the last actual 'visit'.

Note that 'visit time' here is set to 30 minutes. That means the 'activity timer' is set to 30 minutes. That is twice the standard 15 minutes most boards use. That was set to 30 minutes at least 4 years ago because people were complaining that they were being logged out when they left their desk for 'a few minutes'. When they came back and did the 'Since Last Visit' link threads they 'hadn't gotten around to' were marked read and they didn't like that.

So - As we think this through, some of this may help explain some of the things that are happening.

Now - The above does not address the situation CarolX is experiencing. It doesn't happen to me so I tend to think it's a cookie issue. I recently had a person get in touch with me because of problems logging in or something cookie related. After a bit he found that his IS department had re-set a number of peoples computers during a security update. He found the problem was the cookie settings were 'tighter' than they had been. I can't remember the specifics off hand, he could do some things, or some things would work, but not others so only some cookies were being refused or something. I remember the aspect of the browser settings because what was happening was pretty strange and sounded cookie related. Now, when I get someone with what I think may be a related cookie issue, I go beyond 'clear your cookies and try it' and include 'check your browser cookie settings. I also include 'try a different machine in a different location' (such as does this happen on your home computer AND your office computer?).

Anyway, those are some thoughts. I'll looking at the issue.

All this said, please continue to report this and other issues. I need the feedback.

I am testing the below setting today. Please let me know your comments, preferences.

http://elsmar.com/gif/Thread Marking Options 070412b.gif

Never experienced a problem.

Using IE7

Best regards and thank you Marc for your support,

Antoine

I don't prefer the new Inactivity/cookie based setup - I had no threads marked as unread when I logged in this morning - unless that is due to something else. If I understand the setting correctly, it looks like when you're inactive for a set period of time (overnight, in this case) when you come back, all threads are marked as read? I'd rather see what has happened overnight by seeing unread posts since my last visit.

On the other hand, I do like the new date and time-stamp detail for posts.

Edit:
P.S. I like the new avatar, Marc - has a William Gibson feel to it.

Ditto here - seem the same thing as Scott. Came back after about an hour, main page correctly ID the last time visited, but the "since last visit" button now shows "no threads to show" and the last visited now shows 1 minute.

It appears under this thread, that some current changes have been occurring on the Cove (the software side). I just noticed today (but as unobservant as I am; it could have been there for a month :)) the notation when a post is posted.

Instead of 12 minutes ago, 4 minutes ago, 2 weeks ago, there is a true time/date stamp. Very unusual feel for it, especially trying to digest all the different time zones.

After yesterday w/ every one being labeled none since last visit, today I didn't see the notice at all.

Plus only 5 pages of forums...

Instead of 12 minutes ago, 4 minutes ago, 2 weeks ago, there is a true time/date stamp. Very unusual feel for it, especially trying to digest all the different time zones.

Actually, I think the time displayed will be your local time - or whatever is set in the Date & Time Options part of the User Control Panel.

Instead of 12 minutes ago, 4 minutes ago, 2 weeks ago, there is a true time/date stamp. Very unusual feel for it, especially trying to digest all the different time zones.

I changed the Date / Time to actual from 'relative' to try that setting.

Actually, I think the time displayed will be your local time - or whatever is set in the Date & Time Options part of the User Control Panel.

Correct.

I like the "specific" data versus "relative" time data.

Please go back to as it was
Thanks

Please go back to as it was
Thanks
Why, Howard? Is there a problem?

Now when I search for "since last visit" I see only the actual threads and not the past week that I had not read.
I got used to selectively read what grabbed me depending on when and where I was and then return during subsequent visits to a the threads that I skipped.
This gave me an opportunity , say at the week end to go through all the threads.
Now as the log out causes the threads to be defined as "read" I will have to go to all the separate forums to see what is happening.

Now when I search for "since last visit" I see only the actual threads and not the past week that I had not read.

This is why we set this setting to Database Marking. Wes - You said you usually 'Mark Forums Read' before you leave. We're getting into trying to set the software to please everyone, but I understand what you're doing so this shouldn't affect you.

I am going back to the 'Database Marking' from the 'cookie' marking with a 14 day retention.

I urge everyone to understand what the dividing line "The threads below have not been updated since your last visit but still contain unread posts." indicates.

I like the "specific" data versus "relative" time data.

OK. I'll leave it in the 'specific' setting. Personally I liked the 'relative', but barring others who have my preference (speak up if you like 'relative'), I'll leave it as is right now - Set to 'specific'.

Please go back to as it was

Is it OK now, Howard (database marking)?

Thanks
I don't really see the importance of the time.
We are all relative to it anyway