Hello all,:bigwave:

My company is looking to "branch" out for new business, particularly away from the automotive world. We currently are TS & ISO 14000 certified. They are making up new brochures to hand out when making sales calls, we do not want to specify TS16949 & ISO 14000, (most non-automotive could care less about the ts) but they do want to say something about the systems.
My suggestions was to simply put "QMS and EMS certified". Then when/if asked, we could go into details.
Anybody else have any suggestions??:cfingers:

thanks!

Teri:

Since being certified doesn't distinguish your organization from any other, maybe the brochure should focus on some aspect of your performance that the customer would be interested in, which isn't available from anyone else - speed of delivery, etc. If your processes are truely 'performing' rather than just 'certified' then that's what customers look for!

Just a thought!

Andy

Technically a company is not *certified*. A company is *registered* and issued a certificate by its registrar to prove it, but neither the company nor its products and/or services are technically *certified*.

Anybody else have any suggestions??Publicizing your certification (http://www.iso.org/iso/en/iso9000-14000/certification/publicizing/index.html)Technically a company is not *certified*. A company is *registered* and issued a certificate by its registrar to prove it, but neither the company nor its products and/or services are technically *certified*.From Certification, registration and accreditation (http://www.iso.org/iso/en/iso9000-14000/certification/publicizing/publicizing_6.html):

Remember: It is okay to state either that your organization has been “certified” or “registered” because their meanings are equivalent for practical purposes, but inaccurate to state that it has been “accredited” (unless your organization is a certification/registration body).

I'm 'Old School' Sidney. Over the years the 'definitions' of “certified” and “registered” have more or less merged due to general usage.

I'm 'Old School' Sidney. Over the years the 'definitions' of “certified” and “registered” have more or less merged due to general usage.

You're right--"correctness" changes with common usage. Nonetheless, I always thought that those who insisted on the distinction were being overly pedantic, because it's always been clear what people meant when they said their companies were ISO-certified. I got in the habit of saying "registered" simply to avoid being needlessly corrected.

From memory the term "registered" for firms holding a certificate (against ISO 9001 say) came from the original requirement for certification bodies to maintain a register of those organizations it had certified.

In the UK they also notifed the DTI (part of the government) whenever they certified someone and the company name was added to the DTI Register of Firms of Assessed Capability.

Yup - The years change interpretations, but that was the original rational. A company was given a certificate (paper) and was put on a 'registered' list by the registration body.

Years ago, there was the legal implication of the aspect of saying a company was 'certified' to anything because the 'main' definition of 'certified' at the time was "guaranteed; assured". Today the word 'certified' has a broader definition, including "having or verified by a certificate".