little__cee
12th June 2007, 12:45 PM
http://finance.yahoo.com/expert/article/careerist/35700
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View Full Version : Article on Top 5 Workplace Myths little__cee 12th June 2007, 12:45 PM http://finance.yahoo.com/expert/article/careerist/35700 Any comments??? Helmut Jilling 12th June 2007, 12:52 PM http://finance.yahoo.com/expert/article/careerist/35700 Any comments??? I think it is a good article. I happen to agree with all 5 thoughts that were shared. Myth #3 is disturbing, and I don't have any actual knowledge about it, but unfortunately, it seems plausible. I'm sure it is the case at some companies. The others, I clearly agree with. Thanks for sharing. Jennifer Kirley 12th June 2007, 01:11 PM I'd like to say the points are bunk, but in the evolving workplace I'm afraid the advice seems mostly sound. I think there's a widening gap between managers' perspectives and those of the general people. While many people in management positions would not easily believe there are problems like harassment and leadership deficits, I find the subject is in itself widely misunderstood and problems are likely there in some manner. For lots of anectdotal evidence to support the author's points, one need only to browse the Monster.com advice boards. (If you do, just keep in mind that happy and fulfilled people typically do not post there so the negative comments overwhelm the good ones.) I see a few disconnects in managers and reality of the day. 1. "The work ethic is dead." It's not dead in today's young people, but it looks different. Young people have been watching their elders become disposable and are no longer expecting employer loyalty. So, they reason why should they kill themselves for the job? They are less inclined to stand thankless and/or painful work until they expire--many managers do not yet understand this. 2. Resume gaps are a problem. The work environment has changed, but resume gaps still raise questions in some interviewers' minds. My director had questions about why my resume has been going downhill for years. Only after getting to know me a little can he be convinced it's through no obvious fault of mine. 3. People are starting to figure out that promotions often mean more responsibility for little or no added compensation. That "lean" concept is costing morale but managers may not understand why. Meanwhile, a person getting a promotion expects a pay raise. Is that realistic, or is it a sense of entitlement? Nowadays I think the answer depends on whom you're asking. So yes, I see a tug of war out there that unfortunately validates a lot of the points in the article, if for no other reason than there are few remaining constants in today's work environment. Jennifer Kirley 12th June 2007, 01:15 PM I think it is a good article. I happen to agree with all 5 thoughts that were shared. Myth #3 is disturbing, and I don't have any actual knowledge about it, but unfortunately, it seems plausible. I'm sure it is the case at some companies. The others, I clearly agree with. Thanks for sharing.Myth #3 is true in many cases because enforcing the law can be so messy. On Monster.com advice boards, the answer is usually to weigh the pros and cons before proceeding to make waves. In the end the advice is usually to evacuate to another job and shake the proverbial dust off one's heels. Of course it overwhelmingly depends on the company's culture and the people involved. Ted Schmitt 12th June 2007, 01:17 PM http://finance.yahoo.com/expert/article/careerist/35700 Any comments??? Myth #3 really scares me too.... if itīs really true (American legislation), itīs scary.... Just watched a movie North Country this passed weekend on DVD... and talks about exactly this topic... I recommend it : http://northcountrymovie.warnerbros.com/ Helmut Jilling 12th June 2007, 01:28 PM I'd like to say the points are bunk, but in the evolving workplace I'm afraid the advice seems mostly sound. I think there's a widening gap between managers' perspectives and those of the general people. While many people in management positions would not easily believe there are problems like harassment and leadership deficits, I find the subject is in itself widely misunderstood and problems are likely there in some manner. For lots of anectdotal evidence to support the author's points, one need only to browse the Monster.com advice boards. (If you do, just keep in mind that happy and fulfilled people typically do not post there so the negative comments overwhelm the good ones.) I see a few disconnects in managers and reality of the day. 1. "The work ethic is dead." It's not dead in today's young people, but it looks different. Young people have been watching their elders become disposable and are no longer expecting employer loyalty. So, they reason why should they kill themselves for the job? They are less inclined to stand thankless and/or painful work until they expire--many managers do not yet understand this. 2. Resume gaps are a problem. The work environment has changed, but resume gaps still raise questions in some interviewers' minds. My director had questions about why my resume has been going downhill for years. Only after getting to know me a little can he be convinced it's through no obvious fault of mine. 3. People are starting to figure out that promotions often mean more responsibility for little or no added compensation. That "lean" concept is costing morale but managers may not understand why. Meanwhile, a person getting a promotion expects a pay raise. Is that realistic, or is it a sense of entitlement? Nowadays I think the answer depends on whom you're asking. So yes, I see a tug of war out there that unfortunately validates a lot of the points in the article, if for no other reason than there are few remaining constants in today's work environment. Jennifer, I usually agree with many of your fews, but this time I am puzzled by your post. You start out with a strong dismissal of "bunk!" But, the rest of your comments tend to support the same viewpoints of the article. Are you saying the Myths are bunk, or the writer's viewpoints? Jennifer Kirley 12th June 2007, 02:05 PM Jennifer, I usually agree with many of your fews, but this time I am puzzled by your post. You start out with a strong dismissal of "bunk!" But, the rest of your comments tend to support the same viewpoints of the article. Are you saying the Myths are bunk, or the writer's viewpoints?I think I misspoke, and should have said "I'd like to think the points about the 5 myths are bunk, but I mostly agree with the article." Le Chiffre 12th June 2007, 03:24 PM Myth 1: Getting a promotion is good Myth 2: Hide gaps in your work history Myth 3: Sexual harassment laws protect you Myth 4: Your first job out of college matters a lot Myth 5: You'll be rewarded if you do a good job I'm surprised by the overreaction by the first few replies on that site and suspect they're objecting to #3 as it's obviously a touchy subject. But in general any confrontation is not good for your career, especially when it involves the law. I agree with all of them, and it's not the gaps in your work history that could be detrimental, it's the interpretation or conclusions drawn from them. |
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