I have obtained a copy of the proposed update to ISO 10011. Reference:
COMMITTEE-IN-CONFIDENCE
Reference number of working document: ISO/TC 176/SC 3/WG 7 N94
Date: 1998-02-27
Working Draft: WG 7-WD 3
Committee identification: ISO/TC 176/SC 3/WG 7
SC 3 Secretariat: NN1
WG 7 Convenership: SAA
If anyone is interested in a copy, e-mail me and I will forward a copy in the reply. Format is Word 6.0.

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You are correct, Marc. My apologies.

Apologies? For what? I appreciate your offer to share it!

When will it be released? How many more drafts due?

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Can anyone check or send me a copy?
Thanx,
Willy

You're 3 years behind the power curve. 10011 was superceeded 3 years ago by ISO 19011:2002 and NO you cannot have a copy unless you purchase one , it is copywrited.

Yep. Note the date of the first post in this thread, when a "proposed" copy was circulating for comment. My experience is that there are often "political" as well as "factual" changes to documents when they are in the proposal stage.

Randy is correct in that once the document reaches final form with all required approvals, it is copyrighted and the copyright holder then sells rights to read, copy, redistribute, etc. the final version.

Often, folks far down the totem pole in their transnational organizations are not aware that their organization has a "multiple copy" license to distribute copies throughout its employees.

The issue is kind of like dealing with Microsoft - there are lots of pirated copies out there, but Microsoft will still prosecute a blatant copyright pirate.

Public websites such as the Cove are too visible to engage in piracy.

Randy and Wes,
I am sorry if I created the impression that I wanted to get an illegitimate copy of a copyright document, I had no such intention. I am new at the cove and got atracted to this thread by the title ISO10011 which is new to me. I didn't realize that the posts on this thread were from 1998, believe me or not the date of the posts are quite inconspicuous for a newcommer. Evidently I was referring to getting a copy of the draft as offered by Don, My only guilt is not noticing that the offer is 7 years old.
Willy

i am felix,would you pls to semd me the copy!
my e-maul:felixxhl007[revised to prevent spamming]@yahoo.com.cn

The answer is NO felix! It's called copywrite protection.

i am felix,would you pls to semd me the copy!
my e-maul:felixxhl007[revised to prevent spamming]@yahoo.com.cn

Hello, Felix. While you joined the Cove in April 2005, I see you have just done your first post. Congratulations! :applause:

Unfortunately, had you read all of the posts submitted earlier to yours, you would have learned that ISO 10011 has been rendered obsolete. It no longer exists. It has been replaced by ISO 19011.

We are also unable to provide you with a copy of ISO 19011. It is a copyrighted document. This means it is protected from people sharing it to those that haven't paid for for it. The members of the Cove are very determined to follow this law and have no wish to illegally share documentation.

I suggest you visit www.iso.ch - the official site of ISO - if you are interested in purchasing a copy of the guidelines for auditing.

You will also notice that I revised your post, focusing on your email address. This was done to prevent you from being spammed from the automatic search engines that may scan the Cove and look for potential email addresses to send their junkmail to. It is a rule in the Cove that email addresses are not to be posted - this is for your own protection.

Should you wish to converse privately with an individual, you can initially PM (private message) them through the Cove and safely exchange email addresses that way.