bkarthikeyan
7th July 2007, 06:58 AM
I need filled up examples of IS/ is not anlaysis, Why Why Analysis
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View Full Version : Completed IS-IS not anlaysis, Why Why analysis example needed bkarthikeyan 7th July 2007, 06:58 AM I need filled up examples of IS/ is not anlaysis, Why Why Analysis BradM 7th July 2007, 07:09 PM Hello there! Can you give me a little more information regarding these analyses, and what context they may be used? I'll try my best to help you out as much as possible. Stijloor 7th July 2007, 07:51 PM I need filled up examples of IS/ is not analysis, Why Why Analysis Hello bkarthikeyan, BradM is trying, I am trying, other Covers will chime in soon...I need to do more "research", but here may be a start. http://finance.isixsigma.com/library/content/c050504a.asp http://syque.com/quality_tools/tools/Tools24.htm We'll be back. bkarthikeyan 7th July 2007, 10:44 PM Dear BradM, Is/Is-not analysis used in 8D, to understand more about the problem statement. regards, bkarthikeyan Helmut Jilling 8th July 2007, 12:54 AM Hello there! Can you give me a little more information regarding these analyses, and what context they may be used? I'll try my best to help you out as much as possible. I assume "Why/Why" is what we commonally refer to as "5-Why's" analysis here in the USA. It asks "why" several times as one seeks out the root cause for a failure. Sometimes this technique does not work, because you are not able to determine the answer to the first "Why." In those cases, Is/Is Not is a better technique. Is/Is Not approaches it from the other side. It is basically a process of elimination. What is clearly not part of the root cause. A simple example would be: My car would not start this morning. Why? I don't know....5 Why's doesn't work this time. So, we apply Is/Is Not. Eliminate the variable which are not at fault: Is the battery charged? Does the starter turn? Is the alternator working? Do the lights and radio work? ...and so on until we reduce the number of paossible variables to a more manageable number. Then you can proceed with determining the final root cause. Stijloor 8th July 2007, 06:10 AM I need filled up examples of IS/ is not anlaysis, Why Why Analysis Some information about the is/is not technique..... http://creatingminds.org/tools/is-is_not.htm I will look for completed examples. Jim Wynne 8th July 2007, 10:48 AM I need filled up examples of IS/ is not anlaysis, Why Why Analysis Why why is is analysis even necessary? You've found the cause of a problem when you can turn the problem on and off by controlling the ostensible cause. Then, instead of filling out forms, you can solve a different problem. Stijloor 8th July 2007, 11:27 AM Why why is is analysis even necessary? You've found the cause of a problem when you can turn the problem on and off by controlling the ostensible cause. Then, instead of filling out forms, you can solve a different problem. Hello Jim, Analysis necessary? It may be required because the OP has a Customer who requires formal evidence of root cause analysis; 8-D or other customer mandated problem solving techniques. (Re: ISO/TS 8.5.2.1, although I do not know if this would apply to the OP). Happy Sunday. P.S. Tour de France and Wimbledon Tennis.....:) Jim Wynne 8th July 2007, 04:10 PM Hello Jim, Analysis necessary? It may be required because the OP has a Customer who requires formal evidence of root cause analysis; 8-D or other customer mandated problem solving techniques. (Re: ISO/TS 8.5.2.1, although I do not know if this would apply to the OP). Happy Sunday. P.S. Tour de France and Wimbledon Tennis.....:) Of course analysis is necessary, and it's also necessary to keep customers happy, at least to the extent that keeping them happy doesn't cost more than they're worth. The OP's gotta do what he's gotta do. My point was that a lot of time is wasted on problem-solving "strategies" that belabor the bloody obvious, and assume that the people who are trying to solve the problems are idiots. Why why is is that that, do you suppose suppose? Stijloor 8th July 2007, 04:52 PM Of course analysis is necessary, and it's also necessary to keep customers happy, at least to the extent that keeping them happy doesn't cost more than they're worth. The OP's gotta do what he's gotta do. My point was that a lot of time is wasted on problem-solving "strategies" that belabor the bloody obvious, and assume that the people who are trying to solve the problems are idiots. Why why is is that that, do you suppose suppose? Hi Jim, Excellent points! Yes, a cost-benefit analysis (oops, there's that darn word again!) in problem-solving is a good thing to do. But then again, a supplier may not have that option, unless they fire the customer...now, that's a thought.... But I agree with you, a lot of time is wasted ("paralysis by analysis") and that does not serve anybody. Helmut Jilling 8th July 2007, 05:10 PM Of course analysis is necessary, and it's also necessary to keep customers happy, at least to the extent that keeping them happy doesn't cost more than they're worth. The OP's gotta do what he's gotta do. My point was that a lot of time is wasted on problem-solving "strategies" that belabor the bloody obvious, and assume that the people who are trying to solve the problems are idiots. Why why is is that that, do you suppose suppose? Now, Now... Jim, Jim... if you take away the obvious, you may eliminate hundreds of jobs...:D Of course, that could be a viable new Lean initiative...after you fill out the proper forms authorizing it, that is...:notme: Bill Ryan 9th July 2007, 09:57 AM The "Is/Is Not" methodology is also known as Kepner-Tregoe Problem Solving and Decision Making (PSDM). You can also google Kepner-Tregoe for other sites with information. Try this for starters: http://www.itsmsolutions.com/newsletters/DITYvol2iss24.htm Stijloor 9th July 2007, 10:02 AM The "Is/Is Not" methodology is also known as Kepner-Tregoe Problem Solving and Decision Making (PSDM).. You can also google Kepner-Tregoe for other sites with information. Hello Bill, The link does not work...or is it me? Stijloor. Bill Ryan 9th July 2007, 10:58 AM Hello Bill, The link does not work...or is it me? Stijloor. Wasn't you - I had the wrong link posted. It should work now (post #12). Thanks Stijloor 9th July 2007, 11:09 AM Wasn't you - I had the wrong link posted. It should work now (post #12). Thanks Works like a charm! :thanx: Stijloor. |
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