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mi001
9th September 2007, 04:45 AM
Many standard test methods describing the same test procedure are issued under different deignations (ASTM, IP, ISO, DIN, EN, ISO etc.).

Is there someone who knows where to find a reference key to the different designations?

Martin

Ajit Basrur
9th September 2007, 08:50 AM
Many standard test methods describing the same test procedure are issued under different deignations (ASTM, IP, ISO, DIN, EN, ISO etc.).

Is there someone who knows where to find a reference key to the different designations?

Martin

Hi Martin,

Welcome to the Cove :bigwave:

Are you looking for this - http://www.optimus.be/pagina's/Lab_Norm_links.html

Jennifer Kirley
9th September 2007, 04:19 PM
Welcome to The Cove! :bigwave:

I found something at this site (http://www.gardco.com/spec_index_2005.html). I also attached a spreadsheet I made with the page's contents, which is searchable using the data filter.

I would like to caution you that the list may not be complete, and these standards will not all give the same requirements for a given subject.

vandenbar
10th September 2007, 03:54 PM
Martin,

If you find some cross reference between the standards please post it I would love a copy. Unfortunately I don't think you'll ever find one that any of the Standard Associations (ASTM, DIN, ISO) would support. If they let the ASTM methods = the DIN or ISO methods then the world wouldn't need one (or several) of the associations. So I think it is a matter of existence and survival that you will not find a cross reference. ASTM and ISO separate themselves mainly in the approval process of the methods (eg. who can vote on changes, etc). A lot of methods are the same and some even reference each other but others have differences in the actual procedures or accuracy of the equipment, etc. I've been trying to cross reference some specific DIN methods to ASTM's for one of our customers. We have the ASTM's we currently use and I had to order the DIN methods to compare the two. Several were almost word for word, some had sustle differences such as timer accuracy and one inparticular had a 10 hour difference in test time.

In the end I made a spreadsheet comparing the two methods, highlighted the ones we could not comply to so my customer and I can agree to what methods will be acceptable and will be but in the specifications.

Anyway good luck in your search.

Hershal
10th September 2007, 04:46 PM
Moved to the laboratory thread, to provide perhaps greater visibility of this question.

mi001
18th September 2007, 10:26 PM
Thank you all for your replies.

I guess it is much the way Vandenbar says and we may probably never see a general cross reference between ASTM and IP/DIN/ISO/EN (or USA and Europe).

Was hoping for somtehing like Jennifer found, but for petroleum tests. Unfortunately it looked like tests for paint and coatings that we aren't using.

Instrument vendors is a good start though an instrument may cover different standard methods for the same parameter, but the Optimus site wasn't bad with all that methods listed.

For petroleum testing, the best cross reference I found so far is the IP books that give ISO, EN and ASTM references in the header before each method.

It looks like IP are following the European standards and some of their issues have the exact same content as EN & ISO equivalents, but it is not clear wether they are synchronized in annual revisions, or if they release revisions instantly as ASTM does.

Visited the IEC site to see if the ICS coding could give some key to the plethora of renamings of the good old and well established ASTM methods, but wasn't very enlightened.

So I am still looking...

Anyhow, thanks again.

Martin

mi001
19th September 2007, 05:49 AM
Found this on the ASTM bookstore.

Martin

vandenbar
19th September 2007, 10:03 AM
Thanks Martin!

That is a great find. I appreciate you posting it. I'm actually in the Petroleum/ Toll blending business as well so I'm sure I will get some use out of it.

Thanks again, :thanx:

Ryan