Hello everyone,
I have recently joined the list of unemployed. My company had a new President come in and he eliminated everyone that reported to the old President including me over a period of one year. Anyways my old President (boss) is willing to be a good reference for me and I have a very positive review from him the last May. I am seeking a position in the Quality Arena but also have Environmental and Safety Management System experience. My old company was TS, ISO 14001 and prepared to become OHSAS 18001 certified. Any help or suggestions would be greatly appreciated. I would prefer to stay in Ohio, Indiana or KY to be close to family but am willing to move to other areas for the right opportunity. I have attached my resume and feel free to send it to anyone who may be interested. Thank you for your help.

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Sorry to hear that. On the other hand, you have new opportunities, new beginnings and new possibilities to look forward to.

Wes had some good advice for people seeking new opportunities here (http://elsmar.com/Forums/showpost.php?p=200741&postcount=2)

Sorry to hear that. On the other hand, you have new opportunities, new beginnings and new possibilities to look forward to.

Wes had some good advice for people seeking new opportunities here (http://elsmar.com/Forums/showpost.php?p=200741&postcount=2)Yep. You've been around long enough, Sean, to know that job hunting is a job, itself. No halfway measures. The key is usually to narrow your focus and go all out for the combination of organization, job duties and opportunities, location, compensation, etc. that will work best for YOU!

Sean, very sorry to hear that. Hope you get a good job soon.

Hello Sean,

Sorry to hear that you've lost your job. Keep in mind that all things happen for a reason. Eventually, you may be a lot better off. You have excellent marketable skills and knowledge. You may already have read Wes Buckey's outstanding advice in another thread. I caught this while "googling." http://www.careerplanner.com/Career-Articles/so_you_lost_your_job.htm
I will keep my "ears to the ground" for you.

Would you mind keeping us posted on your job search?

Wishing you and your family the very best!

Stijloor.

Oh, I am sorry!

I sense that you will need less time to re-establish yourself than I did. I want you to look at this web site (http://www.indeed.com/), where ads from all sorts of listings can be sent to your e-mail. That's how I found out about my job.

May the wind be at your back!

Bummer Sean... checked your resume, don´t imagine you´ll have a hard time finding a new job.

If it´s any help, check http://www.asq.org/career/ for current job postings !

Follow the leads these guys here give you Sean, we've had more than one Cover get a position that way.

Don't ignore the possibility of changing tracks. Ever had an interest in being self-employed or running a small business? The opportunities in the U.S. are phenomenal, so before jumping headlong onto the same wagon think about any others you may have had passion about in the past but overlooked due to priorities at the time.

Hello Duke,

You made an excellent suggestion. Yes, some of us Covers have done that. It's not for everybody though! Thanks to my my wife's patience and tremendous support, we were able to ride out the rough years....

Stijloor.

Hello Duke,
You made an excellent suggestion. Yes, some of us Covers have done that. It's not for everybody though! Thanks to my my wife's patience and tremendous support, we were able to ride out the rough years....Stijloor.

I agree it's not for everyone. It takes a certain mindset and phenomenal persistence. And I had the same experience with my wife, but she's the one that ultimately gained from it. I'm still operating my business after 22 years, but she's now retired and travelling with me (when she wants).

Thanks to everyone for your advice and support. I have considered self employment but prefer not travelling too much as I have a wife and 3 kids under 5. Consulting in Pittsburgh area would be great for me but getting started without contacts I suspect is somewhat difficult to get started. Any thoughts or suggestion on getting started in consulting or training. This would be a great way to put my talents and dreams together. I love developing systems from the start. Maintaining system is not my dream job and I get bored then. I really like helping companies find home runs and save money or improve in some significant way to make them more competetive.

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Thanks to everyone for your advice and support. I have considered self employment but prefer not travelling too much as I have a wife and 3 kids under 5. Consulting in Pittsburgh area would be great for me but getting started without contacts I suspect is somewhat difficult to get started. Any thoughts or suggestion on getting started in consulting or training. This would be a great way to put my talents and dreams together. I love developing systems from the start. Maintaining system is not my dream job and I get bored then. I really like helping companies find home runs and save money or improve in some significant way to make them more competetive.

Hey Sean

I kept a copy of your resume as a benchmark against the day I need to prepare mine again...hope you don't mind.

It seems we share a similar career path and interests, but you win over me in $ value of accomplishments.

If you like installing systems, have you thought about working for a quality system software company? With GoToMeeting type software the need to travel is reduced, but there would likely still be more travel than you might want. Support from your home office is also a possibility.

This might fill the desire to be involved in the exciting set up phase, and leave the maintenance work to others. A new project every time.

If you are interested, let me know, I know a QMS software company I think you would like from what I read in your resume.

Cheers

I'd love to see a thread started on the "whys and wherefors" of breaking away from working for someone else's organization.

Essentially there are two paths to do that

become "self-employed" - essentially a one person shop (maybe hiring some full-or part-time support staff.) Rarely do these expand beyond working more hours or raising fees.
create or take over an existing business with full-time employees and a plan of expansion (more capital investment, hiring more employees, including other, sometimes MORE SKILLED employees) with an exit strategy of being able to sell out for cash or retain ownership and income while retired from active labor.Somebody ready to start that thread instead of us highjacking Sean's?;)

I'd love to see a thread started on the "whys and wherefors" of breaking away from working for someone else's organization.
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Somebody ready to start that thread instead of us highjacking Sean's?;)

What's to hijack? Sean asked for advice in this direction:

Any thoughts or suggestion on getting started in consulting or training. This would be a great way to put my talents and dreams together. I love developing systems from the start. Maintaining system is not my dream job and I get bored then.

Thanks to everyone for your advice and support. I have considered self employment but prefer not travelling too much as I have a wife and 3 kids under 5. Consulting in Pittsburgh area would be great for me but getting started without contacts I suspect is somewhat difficult to get started. Any thoughts or suggestion on getting started in consulting or training. This would be a great way to put my talents and dreams together. I love developing systems from the start. Maintaining system is not my dream job and I get bored then. I really like helping companies find home runs and save money or improve in some significant way to make them more competetive.:thanx::thanks:

I certainly understand the desire not to travel, since families and memories often suffer.

It's my personal opinion that the QMS and EMS business is pretty dead from a standpoint of designing systems, but OHS may have some potential. There may be opportunities for auditing (either registrar or subcontracting internal audits). I believe we're very close to the point where many surveillance audits could be done electronically (e.g., submittal of records to the auditor, or accessing them through a portal) with subsequent reporting done by telecon and registrar web pages. However, I doubt that many registrars are thinking in this direction yet. And it may not be a good fit to your interest in helping organizations improve.

A company near Pittsburgh you should consider is Kennametal (HQ in Latrobe). Your metals & chemical background would be a good fit to them.

One former supplier quality individual I know in SC has gone into the franchised sub restaurant business. In a role such as this there is the opportunity to install systems, allow others to do the operations work, etc. Some franchises may finance you, or you might even find an angel investor if you pick a good niche.

My point is really that in the U.S. there are virtually unlimited opportunities, and when the universe hands you a fork in the road, take a good look at just how many opportunities there are.

I'd love to see a thread started on the "whys and wherefors" of breaking away from working for someone else's organization.

Essentially there are two paths to do that

become "self-employed" - essentially a one person shop (maybe hiring some full-or part-time support staff.) Rarely do these expand beyond working more hours or raising fees.
create or take over an existing business with full-time employees and a plan of expansion (more capital investment, hiring more employees, including other, sometimes MORE SKILLED employees) with an exit strategy of being able to sell out for cash or retain ownership and income while retired from active labor.Somebody ready to start that thread instead of us highjacking Sean's?;)

Great idea. I can throw in my 2cents also.

By the way Wes, I was thinking if you would like to modify some of your good advice on job application and interview (essentially self-marketing) to 'marketing of your service/business' as a lot of good consultants, trainers etc are much hampered by poor marketing.

... I believe we're very close to the point where many surveillance audits could be done electronically (e.g., submittal of records to the auditor, or accessing them through a portal) with subsequent reporting done by telecon and registrar web pages. However, I doubt that many registrars are thinking in this direction yet...



Not even remotely close, in my opinion, unless we are only going to audit basic compliance...:nope: There is way too much that depends on onsite interaction.

With your qualifications, you will find a much better job.
Good luck!

Sean, I am in a similar situation. However I do not want to relocate at this time. Send me a private message, I will give you the name of a recruiter at an Excellent company. They have 8 manufacturing site in my state, but there 15 total locations in the US including 1 in Fort Wayne Ind. I have a contact if your are interested in the Fort Wayne location. I do not want to post his company and name in this public forum.

What's to hijack? Sean asked for advice in this direction:I originally meant
"a general discussion of anyone choosing the path of

self-employed
OR
entrepreneur of a growing business, hiring other people (whether in the Quality consulting field or any other such as house painting or lawn care or steel service center or whatever)VERSUS
advice aimed strictly at Sean based on his input and the skills and experience laid out in his resume.

It is a chance for a new and better future. Don't worry, you'll find it a blessing soon enough :)

Sorry to hear about your predicament Sean. I have little to add to the advice already given here, but I can wish you good luck. :agree:

/Claes

Sorry to hear Sean. All I can suggest, as a potential avenue, is to post your resume on Monster.com (I also used Careerbuilder - but got lucky through "Monster"). The headhunter that got in touch with me and got me placed worked pretty hard for me and was great to work with.

Sean,

Keep your head up. My wife was "released" from a company that she worked at for almost 10 years (only job she ever had - was recruited out of university). She landed on her feet and is making 25% more than she was before! In addition, she is currently scheduled for a final interview where she will get another 10% raise.

I am sure you will land on your feet as well.

Every door that closes causes another door to open.

John

:cfingers: Best of luck to you Sean!