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Wes Bucey
19th September 2007, 02:48 PM
As I was clearing out trash from one of my email accounts today, I came across this gem:

----- Original Message ----- From: "edd hector"

To: [wes]

Sent: Wednesday, September 19, 2007 4:00 AM
Subject: International trading company is proud to offer a high-paid position for a honest hard-working ambitious person.



> Big international commercial organization is seeking of talented, honest, reliable representatives in different regions. Because of developing of our business the organization is proposing to you to become its part. You can work part time or full time.
> Requirements:
> Internet Connection
> Basic knowledge of PC
> Honesty
> Reliability
> Basic knowledge of marketing is a plus.
> If you want to get an opportunity to make a career, to earn some extra money, to gain new experience during the work, you should send us the following information to: [deleted]
> 1) Full name
> 2) Contact phone numbers
> 3) Languages
> 4) Part time job/Full time
> No investments needed to start working with us.
> The preference is given to employees with knowledge of foreign languages.
> Thank you and we are looking forward to cooperate in long term base with you.
>
> P.S. This job is not associated with "money muls"
>
>
> It's easy to define and describe a nanometer: a nanometer is a billionth of a meter. That's a millionth of a pinhead, a thousandth of a red blood cell diameter, or the length of a line of ten hydrogen atoms rubbing shoulders. If only knowing what nanotechnology really means were as simple: "Have you heard the story of the elephant and the blind man?" Professor Krishna Saraswat chuckles. "Nanotechnology has different meanings to different people, but the conventional definition is the science of material patterned at the 1-100 nm length scale," notes Professor Michael McGehee. Professor Chris Chidsey muses, "Nanotechnology is a concept that is largely designed to capture people's imagination rather than describe a particular type of research. It's largely an attempt to portray a unified vision for a pretty wide-ranging group of activities that might not otherwise get recognized."
>
>OK. I know this is a scam, but I have no idea what a "money mul" is. I would guess the ultimate scam here is to steal your ID and maybe to get you to accept bogus checks and transmit some REAL money to them before your bank tells you the checks are bogus.

Who can give us the real inside info on this scam and explain what's going on? A quick google check shows hundreds of hits using the language in this email, but no explanation.

chergh
19th September 2007, 03:21 PM
Essentially it's handling stolen goods and money. People get bank details etc. through phising and malware infected PC's they then withdraw that money from the account. They then recruit "money mules" who receive this stolen cash into their bank account. They are then requested to send the stolen money via western union or similar to a destination and are allowed to keep a commission for themselves. Eventually the police track the stolen cash to the mules bank account and they get sent to prison while the western union transfer is pretty much untraceable and the criminals organising this scam enjoy the stolen cash and recruit new mules.

Wes Bucey
19th September 2007, 04:23 PM
Essentially it's handling stolen goods and money. People get bank details etc. through phising and malware infected PC's they then withdraw that money from the account. They then recruit "money mules" who receive this stolen cash into their bank account. They are then requested to send the stolen money via western union or similar to a destination and are allowed to keep a commission for themselves. Eventually the police track the stolen cash to the mules bank account and they get sent to prison while the western union transfer is pretty much untraceable and the criminals organising this scam enjoy the stolen cash and recruit new mules.

AAH!
all those scammers were misspelling "money mule!"
Money_mule
Methinks they doth protest too much!

Thanks for clearing that up!

ramblinpaul
20th September 2007, 12:47 PM
So funny.

I always enjoy when someone goes out of there way to say it isn't something, i.e. "This job is not associated with "money muls", without the question even being asked.

When that happens it's usually exactly what it is!!!

Just like the guys in a van who approached me in a parking lot this past Sunday trying to sell me a $3,000 home theatre system. The told me it was really worth $3,000 and that it wasn't stolen.

So, I'm guessing it wasn't really worth $3,000, and it was actually stolen :rolleyes:

Jim Wynne
20th September 2007, 01:07 PM
So funny.

I always enjoy when someone goes out of there way to say it isn't something, i.e. "This job is not associated with "money muls", without the question even being asked.

When that happens it's usually exactly what it is!!!

Just like the guys in a van who approached me in a parking lot this past Sunday trying to sell me a $3,000 home theatre system. The told me it was really worth $3,000 and that it wasn't stolen.

So, I'm guessing it wasn't really worth $3,000, and it was actually stolen :rolleyes:

Many moons ago I was working as a bartender and had a regular customer who came in saying he had just bought a 26" color TV for $50 off the back of a truck in the supermarket parking lot across the street. A new color TV back then (early 70's) would have cost at least ten times more. He had the unopened box in the back of his car, and I told him that I was willing to bet another $50 that whatever was inside of it wasn't a television set. All of the color drained from his face as he ran outside to check. He had bought a nice box with some sort of worthless heavy object in it.

ramblinpaul
20th September 2007, 01:57 PM
Many moons ago I was working as a bartender and had a regular customer who came in saying he had just bought a 26" color TV for $50 off the back of a truck in the supermarket parking lot across the street. A new color TV back then (early 70's) would have cost at least ten times more. He had the unopened box in the back of his car, and I told him that I was willing to bet another $50 that whatever was inside of it wasn't a television set. All of the color drained from his face as he ran outside to check. He had bought a nice box with some sort of worthless heavy object in it.

Well for $50 (in 70's $$) I guess that guy learned a valuable life lesson which he never forgot. P.T. Barnum is credited with the statement; "There's a sucker born every minute".

Either he was wrong, or inflation has changed that statement, because I now say P.T. Barnum was wrong because there are hundreds (perhaps thousands) born every minute..........

Stijloor
20th September 2007, 02:06 PM
P.T. Barnum is credited with the statement; "There's a sucker born every minute".

Hi ramblinpaul,

Not quite, look here (http://www.historybuff.com/library/refbarnum.html).

Stijloor.

ramblinpaul
20th September 2007, 02:20 PM
Stijloor,

Exactly why I used the word "credited", not that he actually said it. It's just like Benjamin Disraeli is credited with saying "There are three types of lies - lies, damn lies, and statistics". Who actually coined that phrase is up for debate as well.

Though, I truly believe all the "Yogisms" (i.e. it ain't over till it's over, 90% of the game is physical, the other half is mental, nobody goes there anymore it's too crowded, etc) are all attributable to Yogi Berra. Those aren't open to any debate :tg:

That being said, I don't believe everything I read, even if it is on the good old reliable web ;).

I don't want to hi-jack this thread anymore than I already have, so back to the "money mules"

Stijloor
20th September 2007, 02:32 PM
Stijloor,

Exactly why I used the word "credited", not that he actually said it. It's just like Benjamin Disraeli is credited with saying "There are three types of lies - lies, damn lies, and statistics". Who actually coined that phrase is up for debate as well.

Though, I truly believe all the "Yogisms" (i.e. it ain't over till it's over, 90% of the game is physical, the other half is mental, nobody goes there anymore it's too crowded, etc) are all attributable to Yogi Berra. Those aren't open to any debate :tg:

That being said, I don't believe everything I read, even if it is on the good old reliable web ;).

I don't want to hi-jack this thread anymore than I already have, so back to the "money mules"

Hello ramblinpaul,

Great comments, and no, you did not hijack the thread. We're allowed to "flounder" a little. Someone will crack the whip :whip: and gets us back on track.

Stijloor.

dahcC
20th September 2007, 10:36 PM
Any comments on ITV Ventures? ;)