Dear all, this is the first question I enter into the forum. I found allready many answers on different questions, but could not find an answer on this one. I found an old thread on the same topic but the answer did not satisfy. Can some one help me out?

Section 1.12 of the APQP ( I still use issue 1994) explains the Product Assurance Plan. I can not imagine how this plan should look like.
1. Can someone explain?
2. Does the APQP not have a standard sheet for this Product Assurance Plan

Thanks in advance

Did you read through this existing discussion thread: What is a Product Assurance Plan and What is its Purpose? (http://elsmar.com/Forums/showthread.php?t=9656) There is at least one example in that thread and some links to other related threads.

In APQP, it is an APQP Phase 1 Output (http://elsmar.com/APQP/sld020.htm).

I've read all the threads and posts related to this topic. Interesting to see that virtually all of the Covers have definitions, examples, good explanations; excellent interpretations and they're all somewhat different!

Going back to the APQP manual, even the definitions in the manual are not exactly the same. (I think I'm splitting hairs here....:D)

Look at page 11: "The Product Assurance Plan translates design goals into design requirements."
I agree with Marc, because that's exactly the purpose and output of APQP Phase One.

Look at page 104: "A part of the Product Quality Plan."

My conclusion is that the Product Assurance Plan (that addresses the design and development process) is similar to a Control Plan that addresses the controls utilized in the manufacturing process.

Stijloor.

Thank you Marc for your reply.
Yes I read through the thread you mentioned. Indeed I have basically the same question as the initiator of that thread.
But I have the feeling that the definitions "product assurance plan" and "product quality plan" are mixed up in the answers.
I know that a PAP is an output of phase 1. I understand from the explanation in the APQP that a Product Assurance Plan should show how the design goals are translated into design requirements.
Do you, or anyone else has an example of a Product Assurance Plan.

Or is a Product Assurance Plan not a mandatory requirement?

Thanks again for your help

Thank you Marc for your reply.
Yes I red through the thread you mentioned. Indeed I have basically the same question as the initiator of that thread.
But I have the feeling that the definitions "product assurance plan" and "product quality plan" are mixed up in the answers.
I know that a PAP is an output of phase 1. I understand from the explanation in the APQP that a Product Assurance Plan should show how the design goals are translated into design requirements.
Do you, or anyone else has an example of a Product Assurance Plan.

Or is a Product Assurance Plan not a mandatory requirement?

Thanks again for your help

Hello Peter,

Prettige Tweede Kerstdag toegewenst! Bijna over he?

A PAP is not a requirement. Please keep in mind that the APQP manual contains guidelines. There is no "standard form" for PAP. If you have a defined plan that guides and manages your design process from input (7.3.2) to output (7.3.3) that would be fine. You can give it a different name if you wish. We sometimes get a little too wrapped up (I'm guilty!! :yes:) in the definitions. Bottom line? Make it work for you.

Hope this helps.

Gelukkig Nieuwjaar.

Stijloor.

Hi Stijloor,
(I already thought "that sounds like a dutch name, but you are living in North Carolina"?)
Yes your answer helped. I was too much focused on the APQP manual. Now I also red the ISO/TS chapters it is much more clear. I believe the most important thing here is to identify the key characteristics of the product that are essential for its proper use.

Goede jaarwisseling,
Best regards Peter