Hi

Does anybody know of an easy way of finding out what the equivalent European/ISO standards are for a given ASTM?:confused:

Have you tried asking BSI.
You can search their website at:
http://www.bsi-global.com/upload/Standards%20&%20Publications/shop.html

Their enquiry desk on +(44) 0208 996 9001 is usually helpful but easily confused.

I've tried the BSI website and none of the standards I have are listed. I guess this means there isn't an equivalent?

Hi

Does anybody know of an easy way of finding out what the equivalent European/ISO standards are for a given ASTM?:confused:

You can't depend on standards being equivalent. Sometimes analogous is the best you'll be able to do, so if you have a requirement for an ASTM standard and want to substitute an ISO or other standard, you need to review both before making a decision.

The telephone option is still available.
Alternatively, if there's only a small number of documents involved, try posting details here and see if one of us can help.

Hi

Does anybody know of an easy way of finding out what the equivalent European/ISO standards are for a given ASTM?:confused:

What industry are you interested in? I know that the major plastics, metals and pipe suppliers and players have such information in their websites.

Hi

Does anybody know of an easy way of finding out what the equivalent European/ISO standards are for a given ASTM?:confused:

Hello Crainford,

Here is a tool (http://www.plastemart.com/Upload/literature/iso-astm.asp) that can help you (I hope...)

Just type in an ASTM number and the equivalent ISO standard pops up.

Let me know if this thing worked for you.

Stijloor.

Hi

No, the tool didn't help but thanks anyway. I am in the textiles/body armour industry and these are the standards I am looking for a European/ISO equivalent or similar if anybody can help.

ASTM TM D 3884 Standard Guide for Abrasion Resistance of Textile Fabrics (Rotary Platform Double-Head Method)

ASTM G21-96:2002 Standard Practice for Determining Resistance of Synthetic Polymeric Materials to Fungi

ASTM D204-02:2002 Standard Test Method for Sewing Threads

ASTM D1683:2007 Standard Test Method for Failure in Sewn Seams of Woven Apparel Fabrics

AATCC 96:2004 Dimensional Changes in Commercial Laundering of Woven and Knitted Fabrics Except Wool


Thanks

Hi

No, the tool didn't help but thanks anyway. I am in the textiles/body armour industry and these are the standards I am looking for a European/ISO equivalent or similar if anybody can help.

ASTM TM D 3884 Standard Guide for Abrasion Resistance of Textile Fabrics (Rotary Platform Double-Head Method)

ASTM G21-96:2002 Standard Practice for Determining Resistance of Synthetic Polymeric Materials to Fungi

ASTM D204-02:2002 Standard Test Method for Sewing Threads

ASTM D1683:2007 Standard Test Method for Failure in Sewn Seams of Woven Apparel Fabrics

AATCC 96:2004 Dimensional Changes in Commercial Laundering of Woven and Knitted Fabrics Except Wool


Thanks

Sorry that the search tool did not provide you with the equivalents you're looking for. There may not be any. So, why do you need equivalents? What's not good with using the ASTM Standards themselves? They're written in English.... :confused:

Stijloor.

I have to provide test results against these standards for a tender submission however I am finding it extremely difficult to find a test house in the UK who can test to ASTM standards

I have to provide test results against these standards for a tender submission however I am finding it extremely difficult to find a test house in the UK who can test to ASTM standards

If you can't find a lab in the UK, would it be feasible to have these samples tested in the USA? It may be expensive, but your competitors bidding on this job may not have an alternative testing source either...

Hello Crainford,

Here is a tool (http://www.plastemart.com/Upload/literature/iso-astm.asp) that can help you (I hope...)

Just type in an ASTM number and the equivalent ISO standard pops up.

Let me know if this thing worked for you.

Stijloor.

That's a pretty cool feature, unfortunately it only holds a limited number of standards. But the idea is good, and I hope somebody graps it (Are you listening ISO???) :)

I may have to get the samples tested in the US but I working to a tight deadline. Can anybody give me contact details of a lab in the US that can carry out these tests?

You may also consider labs in Ireland, some of those are used to the ASTM standards. :bigwave:

I may have to get the samples tested in the US but I working to a tight deadline. Can anybody give me contact details of a lab in the US that can carry out these tests?

Hello Crainford,

I started a search for you on: Fabrics Testing Laboratories in the USA (http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=Fabrics+testing+laboratories+in+the+USA&btnG=Search).

International Testing Facilities (http://www.dmoz.org/Business/Textiles_and_Nonwovens/Test_Facilities/).

Anything there that could help you?

Stijloor.

Thanks. I'll have a look.:thanx:

If you have time to make contact then the relevant ASTM committee secretary or convenor will know if there is an exact ISO equivalent since they surely would have been a participating member of the ISO working group. It's not my field but this is what I found from the EN and ISO catalogs. There are a few related standards below that I extracted from the lists, but I don't know their degree of equivalence and maybe the organisation issuing the tender won't either, which would be the problem.

CEN textile standards under development (TC248):
http://www.cen.eu/CENORM/Sectors/TechnicalCommitteesWorkshops/CENTechnicalCommittees/WP.asp?param=6229&title=CEN%2FTC+248

CEN textile standards published:
http://www.cen.eu/CENORM/Sectors/TechnicalCommitteesWorkshops/CENTechnicalCommittees/Standards.asp?param=6229&title=CEN%2FTC+248

ISO textile standards under development (TC38):
http://www.iso.org/iso/iso_catalogue/catalogue_tc/catalogue_tc_browse.htm?commid=48148&development=true&includesc=true

ISO textile standards published:
http://www.iso.org/iso/iso_catalogue/catalogue_tc/catalogue_tc_browse.htm?commid=48148&published=true&includesc=true

EN ISO 5470-2:2003 Rubber- or plastics-coated fabrics - Determination of abrasion resistance - Part 2: Martindale abrader (ISO 5470-2:2003)

EN ISO 5981:2007 Rubber- or plastics-coated fabrics - Determination of resistance to combined shear flexing and rubbing (ISO 5981:2007)

EN 14119:2003 Testing of textiles - Evaluation of the action of microfungi

EN ISO 13935-1:1999 Textiles - Seam tensile properties of fabrics and made-up textile articles - Part 1: Determination of maximum force to seam rupture using the strip method (ISO 13935-1:1999)

EN ISO 13935-2:1999 Textiles - Seam tensile properties of fabrics and made-up textile articles - Part 2: Determination of maximum force to seam rupture using the grab method (ISO 13935-2:1999)

EN ISO 13936-1:2004 Textiles - Determination of the slippage resistance of yarns at a seam in woven fabrics - Part 1: Fixed seam opening method (ISO 13936-1:2004

EN ISO 13936-2:2004 Textiles - Determination of the slippage resistance of yarns at a seam in woven fabrics - Part 2: Fixed load method (ISO 13936-2:2004)

EN ISO 13936-3:2007 Textiles - Determination of the slippage resistance of yarns at a seam in woven fabrics - Part 3: Needle clamp method (ISO 13936-3:2005)

EN ISO 3759:1995/AC:1999 Textiles - Preparation, marking and measuring of fabric specimens and garments in tests for determination of dimensional change (ISO 3759:1994)

EN ISO 5077:2008 Textiles - Determination of dimensional change in washing and drying (ISO 5077:2007)

Thanks for that, I'll try to contact them. I think you are correct in saying that the organisation putting out the tender will not understand the equivalence (or not) of another standard which means I think I will have to bite the bullet and send the materials to a test facility in the States.:thanx: