Hi,

I'm following this forum for several years but I think that this is my first post.

Anyhow, I'm consultant for laboratory QMS. One of my clients want to offer a supporting services to smaller companies that don't have in-house lab. The lab wants to implement ISO 22000 to cover sampling processes that is to say everything outside the lab. The standardised sampling procedures are available so there is no in-house development. We are talking about hygiene and in-process sampling (not sampling of finished products).
I asked several certification companies and the get-rid-of-me answer was that lab should cover all of it's procedures with ISO 22000 just like anybody else in the food business. For me this is nonsense since the ISO 17025 accreditation is far more strict then any certification. Further more the lab is not a food producer so why should it have another QMS alongside ISO 17025.

Can anybody help with with this puzzle?

Thanx,

Sinisa Perovic

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For any lab ISO/IEC 17025 is more appropriate. ISO 22000 doesn't cover the measurement aspects of performing testing that would affect the results. The market place recognizes 17025 as being the 'de facto' requirement for labs - the client would be putting their credibility at risk by certifying to ISO 22000, too.

For any lab ISO/IEC 17025 is more appropriate. ISO 22000 doesn't cover the measurement aspects of performing testing that would affect the results. The market place recognizes 17025 as being the 'de facto' requirement for labs - the client would be putting their credibility at risk by certifying to ISO 22000, too.

Yes, I'm aware of that since I'm in lab consulting business. But let say that third party Lab would like to sample from within food manufacturing process of XY company which has HACCP or ISO 22000 installed. How can you do that without becoming a new critical point?? My guess is only by having it's sampling procedure covered. I'm not sure that in this particular case 17025 provides enough security in food industry. That is why I was asking about 22000 here.

Thanx anyhow for participating.

Sinisa Perovic

I think you can call SGS and ask them. They'll guide you and send you the right person. They have offices all over the planet.
I wish you succes!
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