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Marc
11th February 2008, 11:26 AM
Seeking forum visitor feedback on this proposal:

I am the product manager of SGS China and Hong Kong responsible for RoHS and hazardous substances management. I don't see much discussion on RoHS, REACH, etc and similar topics on this group. See if you would be interested in creating one. I would be honored to host it. (I have no intention to sell our service through this channel. Completely abide by the rules of this group.)

Chris Yau
Senior Manager, Global Products and Services Development

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Forum User Name: cthyau
Forum User ID: 53129

antoine.dias
11th February 2008, 11:54 AM
I would welcome a forum for REACH.

As it a new european legislation it will be more and more in the picture in the coming months.

For the moment the requirements are firm and are becoming clear, they are setting up the ECHA organisation, etc.
Everyone importing into the EU will have to comply to these requirements.

See ECHA site for introduction : http://echa.europa.eu/home_en.html

Best regards,

Antoine

harry
11th February 2008, 12:01 PM
Seeking forum visitor feedback on this proposal:

It would certainly be nice if we could have one but the number of queries and discussions arising out of it seems to be very low.

Recently, I was searching for information on PFOS (perfluorooctane sulfonates) (http://www.rsc.org/chemistryworld/News/2006/October/27100601.asp)- a Matsushita requirement and was unable to locate anything from searches here. Could it be a 'catch 22' situation - that we need to have a forum first before people flock in to participate?

I am also interested in the views of others.

Ajit Basrur
21st February 2008, 04:41 AM
Sorry for chipping in late - I think its a good idea that we start this new forum to expand the horizons of Cove.

CarolX
21st February 2008, 07:32 AM
It would certainly be nice if we could have one but the number of queries and discussions arising out of it seems to be very low.



I would agree with harry on this. Perhaps we could suggest the user start a thread on one of the topics and we can gage the interst.

JM:2cents:.

Kales Veggie
21st February 2008, 08:22 AM
I agree.

There will be lots of questions/answers in the near future about restricted materials and its use. REACH will have an effect in the USA (e.g. export to EU of product with certain chemicals, importing products from the EU, availability and cost of chemicals)

Marc, if you need assistance, let me know.

Marc
21st February 2008, 02:10 PM
Please review the list of forums (http://Elsmar.com/Forums/).

1. Where in the list of forums do you want the RoHS, REACH forum? I *assume* you'll want it in the National and International Business Standards (http://elsmar.com/Forums/forumdisplay.php?f=4) group of forums, but where in the listing?

2. Please give me the Name you want for the forum.

3. Please tell me the Description you want for the forum.

ScottK
21st February 2008, 02:28 PM
Please review the list of forums (http://Elsmar.com/Forums/).

1. Where in the list of forums do you want the RoHS, REACH forum? I *assume* you'll want it in the National and International Business Standards (http://elsmar.com/Forums/forumdisplay.php?f=4) group of forums, but where in the listing?

2. Please give me the Name you want for the forum.

3. Please tell me the Description you want for the forum.

Sorry to sound off late on this - but couldn't be combined with the ISO14001 forum...
maybe make it ISO14001, RoHS, REACH and other Environmental, Safety, Health standards?

Ajit Basrur
21st February 2008, 08:38 PM
I suggest RoHS, REACH and other European regulations. Also let us keep ISO 14001 seperate as the former pertains to all European regulations and the latter is an ISO.

harry
22nd February 2008, 07:56 AM
I suggest RoHS, REACH and other European regulations. Also let us keep ISO 14001 seperate as the former pertains to all European regulations and the latter is an ISO.

I think it should not be restricted to 'European' only because other 'RoHS' like those from China will be coming into the picture. Then you have other programs like Sony's or the Californian initiatives, etc.

Separate it from ISO 14001 or as a sub-forum of ISO 14001 and name it 'RoHS, REACH and other Environmental, Safety, Health standards'.

Kales Veggie
22nd February 2008, 09:05 AM
All deal with restricted substances. REACH will be the main driver. In the USA, the EPA is working on a regulation as well (due 2010 or so....)

How about:

REACH, RoHS and restricted substances regulations.

Ajit Basrur
22nd February 2008, 09:49 AM
I think it should not be restricted to 'European' only because other 'RoHS' like those from China will be coming into the picture. Then you have other programs like Sony's or the Californian initiatives, etc.

Separate it from ISO 14001 or as a sub-forum of ISO 14001 and name it 'RoHS, REACH and other Environmental, Safety, Health standards'.

YES SIR :)

All deal with restricted substances. REACH will be the main driver. In the USA, the EPA is working on a regulation as well (due 2010 or so....)

How about:

REACH, RoHS and restricted substances regulations.

YES SIR :)

I like the title suggested by Kees

Marc
22nd February 2008, 03:42 PM
http://elsmar.com/Forums/forumdisplay.php?f=159

CHRSCLLNGS
29th February 2008, 08:19 AM
Great idea guys, in my last two Quality Engineer jobs, I have been wearing the RoHS hat so I know enough to get by.
I think that it would be handy to be able to post any questions on RoHS when someone needs help.
Chris

Manix
29th February 2008, 08:27 AM
Sorry, I caught this a bit late, but I think it is missing a fundemental regulation. ELV, I mean this was one of the first large scale EU directives (to do with material content of products) and is a massive subject which would include IMDS, which I know has been discussed frequently on these forums.

I really feel the this should be included and that the title should include both "ELV" and "IMDS".

Sorry if I missed something but I could not see an existing forum dedicated to this.

In my organisation we deal with both RoHS and ELV (+IMDS), they come under the same persons responsibility.

amanbhai
29th February 2008, 08:43 AM
Sorry to sound off late on this - but couldn't be combined with the ISO14001 forum...
maybe make it ISO14001, RoHS, REACH and other Environmental, Safety, Health standards?

What is the connection between ISO 14001 & RoHS?

Marc
29th February 2008, 10:03 AM
Sorry, I caught this a bit late, but I think it is missing a fundemental regulation. ELV, I mean this was one of the first large scale EU directives (to do with material content of products) and is a massive subject which would include IMDS, which I know has been discussed frequently on these forums.

I really feel the this should be included and that the title should include both "ELV" and "IMDS". Like "RoHS, REACH, ELV, IMDS and Restricted Substances Related Regulations"?

harry
29th February 2008, 10:24 AM
Like "RoHS, REACH, ELV, IMDS and Restricted Substances Related Regulations"?

My understanding is ELV and IMDS are automotive related and hence belong to the TS forum. And that includes GADSL - Global Automotive Declarable Substance List.

Do we now want to put them together with RoHS and others?

Manix
29th February 2008, 10:57 AM
Like "RoHS, REACH, ELV, IMDS and Restricted Substances Related Regulations"?

That is fine with me.

My understanding is ELV and IMDS are automotive related and hence belong to the TS forum. And that includes GADSL - Global Automotive Declarable Substance List.

Do we now want to put them together with RoHS and others?

Ummm difficult, ELV is an INDIRECT requirement of TS, but then it could be argued that RoHS has the same relationship with any electonics manufacturer/importer/distributor that is certified to ISO9001.

I think these issues can easily be discussed as a separate issue in there own right and often are.

The people who often deal with RoHS and ELV are often one in the same (or at least that is my experience), and although they may have knowledge of TS they may not necessarily automatically look in the TS forum.

This is just my view, but I don't see ELV as something that should come under TS. It's very similar to RoHS it just covers different kinds of products. Like I say, it's indirectly referenced by TS as 7.4.1.1 Regulatory Conformity. But then this could cover any number of things dependant upon the organisation.

IMDS and GADSL again are a material reporting based items that although are Automotive specific (for now!!) I feel warrant discussion in a forum of similar nature.

harry
29th February 2008, 08:03 PM
Not a big issue really!

I had two primary considerations - I thought keeping all automotive related subjects/issues together facilitates searches and users. Next, I hate to bother Marc if he needs to hunt down all the ELV/IMDS/GADSL threads currently in the TS forum and moved them over to the new place

Marc
1st March 2008, 07:19 AM
Next, I hate to bother Marc if he needs to hunt down all the ELV/IMDS/GADSL threads currently in the TS forum and moved them over to the new place The key here is Thread Titles. I can easily find and move threads with subject key words in the title.

Kales Veggie
1st March 2008, 09:44 AM
The field of restricted substances is going beyond automotive with RohS and REACH (and the upcoming EPA regulation) and management standards (such as TS, ISO 9000, ISO 14001).

"RoHS, REACH, ELV, IMDS and Restricted Substances Related Regulations" sounds good to me.