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I paid £1.07 a litre this morning, which is ~$8.00 for a US Gallon ..... that's why our cars are so small!!!

I paid £1.07 a litre this morning, which is ~$8.00 for a US Gallon ..... that's why our cars are so small!!!

I pay £1.02.9... plus 5p off every litre at Tesco = £0.97.9... where do you fill up Jimmy?

I pay £1.02.9... plus 5p off every litre at Tesco = £0.97.9... where do you fill up Jimmy?
I normally shop around but was "caught short" in Tring in Hertfordshire and had to go to a local garage. Rip-off central :mad:

I didn't realise Tesco were doing vouchers again - thanks for the tip!!

$2.99 a gallon in Plymouth, Minnesota. Can't wait for the weather to get nice so I can start riding my motorcycle again.;)

1.06/ Liter in Toronto area. This is approximately $4.25-$4.75/gallon (depends on if US or British gallon).

Of this - 34% is taxes. I don't know about elsewhere but many fuel companies have a sticker on the pumps showing how the price breaks down (i.e. who gets what).

I doubt anyone has noticed that when the stickers first appeared the profit was 1%. The stickers now show 3% profits...hmmmm....profit triples and the prices is double. Furthermore, the taxes portion is less since our VAT (AKA GST in Canada) has dropped 2%.

Yet, the government says there is competition. That's funny - if there is competition how come everyone has the same price within .2 of a cent per litre!!

I feel better now - thanks.:truce:

Was talking to my dad who is working in Daharan, Saudi Arabia. They are paying about 30 halalas for a liter of premium.

That is about $1.02 USD a gallon.

Things that make you go hmm.

$3.18 per US gallon this weekend. Last weekend it was $2.98.

$3.05 (unleaded regular) this morning in Southeast Wisconsin.

Between $3.25 & $3.35 in the Rochester NY area.

$3.00 a gallon (regular) in Arlington, Texas.

Why can't we insist on a single unit.
As the world is going towards harmonization of standards. etc etc.

Why not SI units in the whole world including in the US? :nopity:

Data from the fuel log for my Honda Civic from the last six weeks (34.8 mpg for the period)- including a couple trips:

Date, $/gal, octane, location

2/14/2008, $2.809, 85, Sandy, Utah Costco
2/15/2008, $2.979, 87, St. George, Utah Costco
2/16/2008, $2.839, 85, Las Vegas Costco
2/18/2008, $4.000, 87, Death Valley National Park (only two gallons)
2/18/2008, $2.939, 87, Pahrump, NV
2/18/2008, $2.979, 87, St. George, Utah Costco
2/21/2008, $2.829, 85, Sandy, Utah Costco
3/3/2008, $2.899, 85, Sandy, Utah Costco
3/11/2008, $2.959, 85, Sandy, Utah Costco
3/14/2008, $3.019, Sandy, Utah Costco (up 7.5% in a month)
3/15/2008, $3.299, 85, Parawan, Utah
3/16/2008, $3.579, 85, Primm, NV
3/19/2008, $3.419, 87, Garden Grove, CA
3/20/2008, $3.649, 87, La Mesa, CA
3/24/2008, $3.479, 87, Temecula, CA Costco
3/25/2008, $3.479, Temecula, CA Costco
3/26/2008, $3.269, 87, St. George, Utah Costco (up 9.7% from 2/18)
3/31/2008, $3.119, 85, Sandy, Utah Costco (up 11.0% from 2/14)

Wow. Talk about inflation. Where's Whip_Inflation_Now when you need it? :lol:

Just out of curiousity, why do you log this information?

Between 3.55 to 3.99 for regular unleaded in the San Fernado Valley

$3.129 per gallon of regular. Here in snowy Minnesota On April 2nd 2008

$3.13 to $3.19 in northeast Alabama. I paid $3.15 this morning. In northwest Georgia, it ranges from $3.19 to $3.29....at least at the places I've seen....

$3.19 to $3.29 in NE NC and SE VA.

Just out of curiousity, why do you log this information?

Mainly to keep track of our MPG, but we also log maintenance performed, when we bought tires, major repairs and so on.

Side benefits: time-line of travels and gas prices.

Mainly to keep track of our MPG, but we also log maintenance performed, when we bought tires, major repairs and so on.

Side benefits: time-line of travels and gas prices.

:topic:

Which would also make excellent layouts in a family scrapbook! :biglaugh:
Sorry, Scott, as a scrapbooker myself, I couldn't resist!

:topic:

Which would also make excellent layouts in a family scrapbook! :biglaugh:
Sorry, Scott, as a scrapbooker myself, I couldn't resist!

For my daughter's scrapbooks, we could include an X-Y chart of how gas prices change over the years, with little pink gas cans for the data markers. :lol:

For my daughter's scrapbooks, we could include an X-Y chart of how gas prices change over the years, with little pink gas cans for the data markers. :lol:

:topic:

Yep....and there are cute little die cuts of pink convertibles and all kinds of vacation items, like state license plates, national parks, and...Oh, don't get me started! :lmao::biglaugh: And living in Utah, you're practically in scrapbook heaven!! :lol:

Mainly to keep track of our MPG, but we also log maintenance performed, when we bought tires, major repairs and so on.

Side benefits: time-line of travels and gas prices. I do that. I log every expense from oil changes to repairs to gasoline: date, place, time, mileage (speedo reading), price per gallon if gasoline, etc. in an excel spreadsheet. I even enter a line before every long trip and when I return to demark 'road miles' and as 'evidence' of the trip.

And living in Utah, you're practically in scrapbook heaven!! :lol:
:topic:
Yep. Lots of scrapbook stores here. There's also lots of entries in the State Fair each year - scrapbooking has its own room in the home arts building.

The only problem - before we had kids, we were able to keep up with our scrapbook. After kids, we're about 3 years behind on three scrapbooks.

:mad:0.89euro/liter about 5.36$/gallon in Romania this morning.:mad:
:censor::censor::censor::censor::censor::censor::censor::censor:

It's 52 Rupees per liter In Mumbai-India.
1USD=40 Rupees.
By the way what is a gallon

It's 52 Rupees per liter In Mumbai-India.
1USD=40 Rupees.
By the way what is a gallon



1 US gallon = 3.78541178 liters.

Stijloor.

By the way what is a gallon

I'll try to make it more confusing. Are you referring to the British, Canadian or American Gallon?

As Stijloor pointed out, the American (US) Gallon = 3.785 liters

What about the British (I think it's the same in Canada) Gallon? A British Gallon weights 10 lbs or 4.535 kg or 4.535 liter. As a rule of thumb, British Gallon = 4.5 liters whereas US gallon = 4 liters

I'll try to make it more confusing. Are you referring to the British, Canadian or American Gallon?

As Stijloor pointed out, the American (US) Gallon = 3.785 liters

What about the British (I think it's the same in Canada) Gallon? A British Gallon weights 10 lbs or 4.535 kg or 4.535 liter. As a rule of thumb, British Gallon = 4.5 liters whereas US gallon = 4 liters

The story about the Gallon

Stijloor.

The story about the Gallon

Stijloor.

I prefer the quantity based on the 'ale gallon'.........:lmao:

Prices from a holiday weekend trip to the Black Hills of South Dakota:

5/22: $3.599, Sandy, Utah (Costco) - home, for comparison (same location was $3.219 on 5/23 last year)
5/23: $3.699, Rock Springs, Wyoming
5/23: $3.619, Casper, Wyoming
5/24: $3.599, Gillette, Wyoming
5/24: $3.799, Wall, South Dakota
5/25: $3.699, Hot Springs, South Dakota
5/26: $3.799, Lusk, Wyoming
5/26: $3.639, Rawlins, Wyoming
5/26: $3.699, Evanston, Wyoming

Drove almost 1900 miles and spent about $400 on gas. Wow, that seems like a lot. :censor:

This morning it was $3.79/gallon in Missouri. There are places where super unleaded is over $4/gallon. Yesterday it was $3.69/gallon. Good thing I gased up yesterday. :caution:

My daily commute round trip is 120 miles. I have a Saturn SC1 that gets 32 mpg. Thank goodness.:2cents:

But if it keeps going up...:blowup:

Using Stijloor's conversion of 1 US gallon = 3.78541178 liters,

here in Victoria Australia we are paying AUS $6.13 a gallon (AUS$1.62 a litre).

Oh for a better public transport system...............

In Karachi, Pakistan we are paying like US $ 1/ liter. recently raised.
Apart from that we have other options like CNG which cost i beilve 1/3 of the petrol price. not bad :rolleyes::lol:

$4.10 in the Rochester NY area.

Phil

Filled up last Saturday and paid $3.999 for unleaded regular in SoCal-SFV (Total $75.00), but it will last about 3 weeks as long as I only go to work and back

Filled up last Saturday and paid $3.999 for unleaded regular in SoCal-SFV (Total $75.00), but it will last about 3 weeks as long as I only go to work and back

Wow, Coury, 3 weeks?? I'm guessing you either live near your workplace or your vehicle gets great gas mileage! :agree1:

Wow, Coury, 3 weeks?? I'm guessing you either live near your workplace or your vehicle gets great gas mileage! :agree1:
:topic:
Or, he drives to work - stays there for three weeks (sleeps in his office, eats at McDonalds next door, etc) - and then drives home!:lmao:

:topic:
Or, he drives to work - stays there for three weeks (sleeps in his office, eats at McDonalds next door, etc) - and then drives home!:lmao:

:lmao: That was great Andy.

:horse: They had a special on this weekend about folks going back to using horses to get around.

It takes 2.5 tanks of gas to get me back and forth to work each week. It's running about $60 a week. Any more and I'll rent a place close to work and drive home for the weekends....kinda what Andy said :singtome:

Wow, Coury, 3 weeks?? I'm guessing you either live near your workplace or your vehicle gets great gas mileage! :agree1:

:topic: I drive 5 miles round trip per day to work (25 miles a week) and I get 10 MPG City and 20 MPG Hwy

Or, he drives to work - stays there for three weeks (sleeps in his office, eats at McDonald's next door, etc) - and then drives home!

:topic: I don't sleep at the Office, but there is a lot of Fast food establishments (Wendy's, Carl's, Jack in the Box,Taco Bell, El Pollo Loco) on my way home. :lol:

I'm thinking of getting a golf cart! I was impressed by those golf car communities (saw them in Peachtree City, GA) where the routes are built for them (bridges over highways etc). Now that's a great idea. I could get most places I need to go around my neighborhood in a golf cart. Just needs winter tires and a heater............:lol:

I'm thinking of getting a golf cart! I was impressed by those golf car communities (saw them in Peachtree City, GA) where the routes are built for them (bridges over highways etc). Now that's a great idea. I could get most places I need to go around my neighborhood in a golf cart. Just needs winter tires and a heater............:lol:

You can order them with a Heater, if you want. Most likely you could also purchase them with winter tires. :lol:

You can order them with a Heater, if you want. Most likely you could also purchase them with winter tires. :lol:

Can I order one that is street/highway legal?

Steelmaiden...

Yes, they are called Dune buggys...:lmao:

You can order them with a Heater, if you want. Most likely you could also purchase them with winter tires. :lol:

You can get them with a heater, stereo, knobby tires, and a lift kit, if you like. Some of the industrial versions have cabs and a dump bed.

With an electric cart you just plug it in each night and drive right past the gas pump.

2 of the major manufacturers are right down the road from here in Augusta GA.

Can I order one that is street/highway legal?

:topic: Yes most likely you can. Contact the Manufacturer in Georgia. They would even deliver it to you.

Let's see...Street Legal would mean Headlights, Turn Signals, Brake Lights, windshield wipers, tires, it would even pass any smog requirements in your State. :rolleyes:

The last time there was such a huge price increase there were gas shortages and days you could get gas based on even/odd license plates. That's not happening now.:nope:

So why is this happening besides the greedy getting greedier? Have they done something to make the price raise in the market?:bonk:

Will they not sell the gas (or crude oil if you want to be specific) if we won't pay a certain price per barrel?:argue:

What is the driving force of it raising in cost? What has changed since last year or the year before?:read:

Any answers?:truce:

Steelmaiden...

Yes, they are called Dune buggys...:lmao:


Thanks Palmer, I needed that!

Let's see, I I did a creative requisition to my neighbor's new VW Beetle, removed the body and sold it for scrap, I know where I can get a dune buggy body that needs the frame, engine, tranny, etc..... hey, this might work too. And I know that I'd still have to buy gas, but I wouldn't have to worry about stopping half way to work to recharge. :notme:

:bigwave:
Pittsburgh, Pa. at $3.89+ yesterday.

Current Price of Unleaded from ARCO $4.039 per gallon. Diesel is over $5.00 per gallon.

I just filled up, 3.989.

:lmao: That was great Andy.

:horse: They had a special on this weekend about folks going back to using horses to get around.

It takes 2.5 tanks of gas to get me back and forth to work each week. It's running about $60 a week. Any more and I'll rent a place close to work and drive home for the weekends....kinda what Andy said :singtome:

That is a Long Trip from St Joe to (I assume) KC. I lived in St Joe for awhile and worked in KC. It was about a 70 Mile trip or 1 hour drive each way.

Joining the thread late - if the topic is already discussed, I apologize in advance:

In the Chicago metropolitan area, various van pool programs seem to be going merrily along, despite (or maybe because of) the horrendous price increase in fuel.

I'm attaching an old (but still relatively valid) study about types of van programs as a starter read for those of you who may have sufficient potential riders going to and from certain destinations to help you consider whether to explore such a van pool program for your situation.
(As a government report, this document is in the public domain and does not claim copyright!)

The two main advantages I see in this "semi-public" mode of commuting versus self-driving or public transportation are:


cost per passenger mile is much lower than private drive and about the same or only a little more than public transportation
routing and scheduling are usually more convenient than public transport and may contribute to a lessening of traffic congestion by keeping vehicles off the road which would otherwise be driven by van passengers

Obviously van pooling is not for everyone, but it will save wear and tear on one's personal vehicle and could even result in lower insurance costs if the annual mileage is reduced.

I'd be interested in learning if any of you have personal experience with van pooling or what your objections might be if you would not participate in one either as a driver (Free gas and maintenance! and some schemes even provide free vans!) or as a passenger.

Presented in the spirit of:
"Light a candle instead of curse the darkness"

This past weekend I saw a station at $4.34/gallon.....I just paid $4.20/gallon.....

That is a Long Trip from St Joe to (I assume) KC. I lived in St Joe for awhile and worked in KC. It was about a 70 Mile trip or 1 hour drive each way.

I live in KC and commute to St. Joe. Have for about a year. Found a job that I love there. Wife has worked at same place for 29 yrs and family is in KC Metro so it would be difficult to move to St. Joe. Therefore, I commute. Bought a car that gets 32 mpg and installed 12 cd changer, 240 watt speakers, and 100w amp. I jam back and forth.:biglaugh::notme:

New week and holding steady at $3.77/gallon:bonk:

(6/2/08) It is now at ARCO $4.159 for Regular and Diesel at $5.039 in SoCal.

While I was checking for an address of a restaurant, I got referred to Mapquest and saw an icon on the Mapquest site for "gas prices."

http://gasprices.mapquest.com/

Problem is, the prices on the website have yesterday's date (validity date, I suppose), but when I checked for my area, all the reported prices were at least 10 cents and sometimes 20 cents too low compared to actual posted prices. (Yeah - I asked about yesterday's price as well.) When I checked other areas, I phoned some of the stations listed, and they, too, were also being reported at least ten cents lower than the actual pump price for either yesterday or today..

Thanks Palmer, I needed that!

Let's see, I I did a creative requisition to my neighbor's new VW Beetle, removed the body and sold it for scrap, I know where I can get a dune buggy body that needs the frame, engine, tranny, etc..... hey, this might work too. And I know that I'd still have to buy gas, but I wouldn't have to worry about stopping half way to work to recharge. :notme:You just need a longer extension cord!:tg:

I spoke too soon yesterday, this morning it was up to $3.85/gallon. A $.10jump.

You just need a longer extension cord!:tg:

Anybody know of a supplier of 21 mile long extension cords? Must have a self retracting storage capability for the ride home. :lmao:

Anybody know of a supplier of 21 mile long extension cords? Must have a self retracting storage capability for the ride home. :lmao:

:topic: Have you Googled this? Maybe they would provide Solar Panels. :D

Aren't there recharge stations on the Highways for the Hybrids? :cool:

:topic: Aren't there recharge stations on the Highways for the Hybrids? :cool:

Coury, you forget, NC is the home of NASCAR, we don't need no stinkin' hybrids. We believe in fast cars and good moonshine.:notme:

Coury, you forget, NC is the home of NASCAR, we don't need no stinkin' hybrids. We believe in fast cars and good moonshine.:notme:

I guess I have been out of the East/Southeast too long already. Maybe it is time to head back to the Carolinas. :notme:

Cheapest I can find around here is £1.24/litre for diesel and £1.12/litre for unleaded.

Anybody know of a supplier of 21 mile long extension cords? Must have a self retracting storage capability for the ride home. :lmao:

We use to have those in England, many, many years ago. When I was a small kid I remember busses running through town - relatively quietly, and no diesel fumes - on electricity. They were called 'trolley busses' and didn't have rails like a tram, but used a similar overhead wire system. Kinda like a long extension cord............

Andy
Don't like to admit it, but I remember the trolley buses too!
I paid £1.33 a litre on Monday for diesel, nearly £70 to fill the car. It's beyond a joke....
All the best
Paul

Coury, you forget, NC is the home of NASCAR, we don't need no stinkin' hybrids. We believe in fast cars and good moonshine.:notme:

Maybe you can use the moonshine in place of the gas....:confused:

I currently work in saudi arabia where
1 lt. octane 91 is for 0.16USD
1 lt. octane 95 is for 0.2 USD

I'm originally from Egypt where gas costs:
1 lt. octane 90 is for 0.4 USD
1 lt. octane 92 is for 0.56 USD

actually bottled water costs more than fuel down here at around 0.3 USD/lt.

Never got an answer to why gas price is going up....

It's not a shortage like in the past.....

So what is it? Greedy bastards perhaps? Or do they have us by the throat and are going to extort our money...:caution:

what's most interesting is that with the rise in fuel prices, several agri-products were used as bio-fuel which shortened the food supply to fuel producing countries thus causing a massive increase in consumer goods, also oil companies are exploiting the wave that's spread out across the globe.... and exaggerating on the oil prices for massive gains

A food company near my work installed ethanol production in their facility.

News stations in the US have had specials off and on of farmers saying that corn demand is too high.....:nope:

So we can expect a huge increase in corn prices soon...:nopity:

I just saw this on the News today (6/6/08). The price of Regular unleaded in Arcadia, CA (about 50 miles East from my location) is $4.999

I filled up this morning for 3.959.

I just saw this on the News today (6/6/08). The price of Regular unleaded in Arcadia, CA (about 50 miles East from my location) is $4.999


OMG!!!!!! :mg::mg::mg::mg::mg::mg::mg:

I travel 60 miles each way. I play the pricing game between the cities. Right now in KCMO it is $3.85 but near my work in St. Joseph, MO it is $3.69.

Guess where I'm buying my gas????:notme:

At this point, I think the Feds and State Governments should reduce/remove the taxes on Gasoline. That would bring prices down.

At this point, I think the Feds and State Governments should reduce/remove the taxes on Gasoline. That would bring prices down.


Do you honestly think they would reduce taxes?:lmao:

They just gave us money to stimulate the economy!:bonk:

Do you honestly think they would reduce taxes?:lmao:

When I was in Florida for 2 years then Governor Jeb Bush would sometimes remove the State Tax on Gasoline, and after Hurricanes or warnings he would allow travel on the Toll Hwy for free at no cost.

:topic: If they (Government) really want to stimulate the economy, that would be the best way instead of a Tax refund in my opinion. Most of the refunds is just being spent on the Gasoline, not what their original intent was.

Do you honestly think they would reduce taxes?:lmao:

They just gave us money to stimulate the economy!:bonk:

New York was talking about suspending the TAX for the summer. By my calculation based on miles driven, miles per gallon, and the tax I would save about $50.00. Is it worth it over a 12 week period?

Then the politicians would then complain that there was no money for road repairs due to the tax reduction and raise taxes some place else.

Phil

decreasing or stopping the gas taxes is not going to solve anything, you will just end up being taxed somewhere else. Would you give up a chunk of your paycheck? Well, the govt. isn't going to either.:2cents:

New York was talking about suspending the TAX for the summer. By my calculation based on miles driven, miles per gallon, and the tax I would save about $50.00. Is it worth it over a 12 week period?

Phil

That is only the State Tax. Calculate the amount of costs by taking the State and Federal taxes out. :D

Saw some diesel in the UK for £1.45/litre, Motorway service station, which equates to about $11 a gallon.

Currently at $1.34 CAD per liter. With an 81 liter tank it costs about $100 to fill every 2-2.5 weeks. Sad thing is that I calculated how much of my salary goes to gas! If I worked walking distance from home I could make $2/hr less and still have the same net salary just by not having to buy gas!! :mg: Sickening.

decreasing or stopping the gas taxes is not going to solve anything, you will just end up being taxed somewhere else. Would you give up a chunk of your paycheck? Well, the govt. isn't going to either.:2cents:

:topic: I would be willing to pay the taxes else where. Since in California, the use of the Vehicle is a major part of life.

:topic: If they (Government) really want to stimulate the economy, that would be the best way instead of a Tax refund in my opinion. Most of the refunds is just being spent on the Gasoline, not what their original intent was.

This way they get the money back they gave us. So basically they cut the tax if what you say is true about it going towards gas anyway:truce:

I saw deisel for $4.69/gallon. $11/gallon??????:mg:

Attached is my new ride. I'm going green.:rolleyes:

As you can see, I have certain priorities:biglaugh:

Yes, the head shot is actually me.:lmao:

Attached is my new ride. I'm going green.:rolleyes:

As you can see, I have certain priorities:biglaugh:

Yes, the head shot is actually me.:lmao:Well . . . as long as you have "tunes," what more do you need?:cool:

The way the price increase, researchers could think of using alternate!

Food oils are cheaper than the petrol price.

Sridhar

Since March the price of Diesel rised 18%, anda the price of Unleaded 95 Octane only rised 7%!

Why?
Because in Portugal everybody has Diesel cars...
:notme:

Since March the price of Diesel rised 18%, anda the price of Unleaded 95 Octane only rised 7%!

Why?
Because in Portugal everybody has Diesel cars...
:notme:

Kinda funny how that works. I still want to know WHY they aren't saying there is a gas shortage????:sarcasm:

Why else is there such a rise in the prices?:read:

This morning in Missouri (or "misery" depending on your speech) in one city it was $3.93/gal and in another city 60 miles away it was $3.72/gal.:mad:

Kinda funny how that works. I still want to know WHY they aren't saying there is a gas shortage????:sarcasm:

Why else is there such a rise in the prices?:read:

If there were an actual shortage, you would be standing in line to buy it. There are traders with very huge chests of money buying and selling it because they expect eventually there will be a shortage. When hundreds of billions of dollars, euros, etc move in and out it changes the pricess dramatically. Also, I understand Friday had some short covering, because earlier in the week the price was "plummeting" to $122 USD.

I'm afraid this is here to stay more or less. We will need to begin to work this into our lifestyles. Let's reduce and conserve people.

still much cheaper than bottled water and soda pop,both of which are much simpler to manufacture. Gas stations make more from selling those than the gas.

Why is there no outrage over bottled water? :notme:

still much cheaper than bottled water and soda pop,both of which are much simpler to manufacture. Gas stations make more from selling those than the gas.

Why is there no outrage over bottled water? :notme:

You don't have to buy soda or bottled water. We aren't dependant on them. Water can be gotten from the tap.

Gas, on the other hand, has an affect on everything we purchase. It's cost affects the cost of everything we buy.

Here in DK we have the pleasure of paying 2,43$ per liter these days. I believe that is only topped by the prices in UK. Makes you love your old car :(

You don't have to buy soda or bottled water. We aren't dependant on them. Water can be gotten from the tap.

Gas, on the other hand, has an affect on everything we purchase. It's cost affects the cost of everything we buy.

Of course, but the same people complaining about gas don't complain about the soda they are holding while they pump the gas.

Both are too high, I just wanted to put it into perspective.

Of course, but the same people complaining about gas don't complain about the soda they are holding while they pump the gas.

Both are too high, I just wanted to put it into perspective.

I'm one of those holding the soda:lmao:

But I do get the fountain drink because it is so much cheaper.:biglaugh:

The one's that really make me laugh is the one's that complain about gas - yet will pay $1.50 - $2.00CDN for a litre of water!! At least soda requires some sort of thought process to make it. Dasani and Aquafina are just filtered tap water - YES, the same stuff you can get for pennies/Litre out of your tap!!!

Btw, it is 1.349/Litre in the Toronto area today. For those of you on the gallon, that would be ~$5.40 - $6.00CDN/gallon. :mg:

$4.17 in Southern Indiana 87 octane

The woman at the gas station told me that the word is that prices will start to fall....cannot vouch for the validity of the info, but it did come from a gas station employee.

If my calculations are right the us $/us gallon equivalent price that we pay in the UK is $8.51 per us gallon. :mg:
latest price today is 116.5 p per litre for unleaded 95 octane
:jawdrop:

The woman at the gas station told me that the word is that prices will start to fall....cannot vouch for the validity of the info, but it did come from a gas station employee.

Here's to hoping she's right! :cfingers:

Here's to hoping she's right! :cfingers:

Hmmmmmmmmm maybe she is on to something, but I think there is a lot of pain before we get there.

Barron's magazine *interviews <http://online.barrons.com/article/SB121279317214553377.html?mod=9_0031_b_this_weeks_magazine_main&page=sp>* highly-followed Goldman oil strategist Arjun Murti, who predicted the current oil "super spike" in 2004. He sees the climb peaking somewhere between $150 and $200 -- which could mean $5.75 gasoline.

Murti dismisses the notion that speculation is driving oil prices to record highs. If so, he counters, why aren't we seeing supply growth?

The end of the super spike will come when oil prices reach a level at which it meaningfully reduces long-term demand. U.S. demand has begun to drop, but have people truly changed their behavior, or are they just driving less temporarily? Outside the U.S. (China, Middle East, Asia) demand is still growing.

Murti is bullish on the major oil companies, *ExxonMobil (XOM <http://seekingalpha.com/symbol/xom>)*, *Chevron (CVX <http://seekingalpha.com/symbol/cvx>)* and particularly *ConocoPhillips (COP <http://seekingalpha.com/symbol/cop>)* due to its lower tax rate and large natural-gas exposure.

He also favors E&P firms, especially those with natural-gas positions. His favorite is *Cabot Oil & Gas (COG <http://seekingalpha.com/symbol/cog>),* followed by *Apache (APA <http://seekingalpha.com/symbol/apa>).*

Pipeline companies stand to benefit from the U.S. need to expand its pipeline infrastructure. Murti likes *Oneok (OKE <http://seekingalpha.com/symbol/oke>)* and *El Paso (EP <http://seekingalpha.com/symbol/ep>).*

He's bearish on refiners, which stand to lose the most from dwindling demand which cut into gasoline margins, and are being squeezed by increasing ethanol production.

Ultimately, Murti doesn't believe $150-200 oil is sustainable.
Our long-term oil forecast looking out 20 years is [for crude] to
fall back to $75 a barrel, or some lower number. The questions are:
How long do prices stay high? How sharply do they rise? And do
people truly change their behavior or are they just temporarily
driving less? It's an unknown at this point.

I caught a quick news item on tv here in the Detroit metro area, that a gas station had it on sale for $.99 today. There were people regulating the number of cars allowed into the station. I think they were holding oozies........

The price made it to $1.51 a liter in Montreal or about $6 a gallon. It went from 1.37 to 1.51 in one day.

:mad: last night gas was $3.78/gallon. This morning it was $3.93/gallon.
It was the higher number last Wednesday, dropped to the low number yesterday and popped back up....:censor:

They are coming out with an engine that runs on compressed air and speeds of 35 mph and distance of 1000 miles on one fill. They are going to put an air compressor in some that won't make it as green but still......:applause:

Honda has released a new car that works on hydrogen. The “fuel” we have to put is simply water.
In a year they expect to produce this kind of vehicle at the same price as the actual car are being sold.
Other manufacturers are doing similar studies!
The kingdom of “oil lords” is reaching the end!
;)

I wonder if you can use sea water or dirty water. If not, how clean does the water have to be?:read:

It would be interesting to see...

On NGEO channel or Discovery channel they had a segment on an engineer in California who worked with battery powered items. He was kind of a nut. He was showing his battery powered skateboard and scooters. They had blazing speed. He also said the ER people knew him well from all his crashes.:D

He had a car that was about the size of a Cooper that was battery powered and recharged on a 240 plug-in in his house. It got something like 500 miles on a charge. It would go about 70 mph. And he laid rubber peeling out in it. Why can't we start mass producing these NOW?????:yes::whip::magic:

Has anyone used or is anyone familiar with HoD, Hydrogen on Demand, systems. I’ve seen a lot of hype about them on the web and in recent news reports. Most of the web sites look like a scam. Just looking for info.

Hi.
Petrol in the UK is£1.17 litre.
Diesel is £1.33 - £1.37 litre.
Approx $10 per Gallon!!!!
Bet our govt' is worst than your's!!!!

Ken

Hi.
Petrol in the UK is£1.17 litre.
Diesel is £1.33 - £1.37 litre.
Approx $10 per Gallon!!!!
Bet our govt' is worst than your's!!!!

Ken

No, it's pure economics.....:D

Moneymen control the crude oil market.:(

Stijloor.

$3.93/ gallon in Kansas City. $3.75/ gallon in St. Joseph just 60 miles away. Has been this way for almost a week. Tell me someone isn't putting the screws to someone...:mad:


Pundits are saying two different things on future of gas prices in the USA, some say it will be $7/gallon by 2010 and others are saying it will be $2/ gallon by the end of this year. :bonk:

Who is going to be right?:confused:

$3.93/ gallon in Kansas City. $3.75/ gallon in St. Joseph just 60 miles away. Has been this way for almost a week. Tell me someone isn't putting the screws to someone...:mad:


Pundits are saying two different things on future of gas prices in the USA, some say it will be $7/gallon by 2010 and others are saying it will be $2/ gallon by the end of this year. :bonk:

Who is going to be right?:confused:

Last week I was in the Lake Tahoe area and saw a price of 3.99 in Reno, NV, and 4.15 in Tahoe City on the CA side (~50 miles away).

Friends,

An interesting article from MSN.com:

Conservation takes back seat to drilling (http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/25482959).

We still have a lot to learn....

Stijloor.

In Australia it is hovering around $1.70/litre, which equates to about $6.50/Gallon in the US:mad:, and to make it worse I drive a V8 and work about 50km/31.25miles (In a straight line) from where I live, about an hours travel, so my petrol bill is astronomical.:blowup:

I saw an email a couple months ago that showed which gas companies got their gas from US supplies and which got theirs from foreign companies.

Does anyone have that information. I must have deleted mine and I have a colleague who wanted it.

$4.60 today for 87 octane.....you don't want to know the prices for the other octanes and for diesel.....

UK prices seem to have levelled off a little. Don't think they've increased for two weeks now :mg:

Still 117.9p per litre though for Unleaded.

Prices YESTERDAY (which change by the minute here) were $4.09/gallon. Saturday I purchased a bicycle, it's only 4 miles to work so even at my age, I think I can make it; it's been over 40 years since pedaling - they say you never forget - well your backside certainly does:lmao:

Prices from our weekend trip to Black Canyon National Park (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black_Canyon_of_the_Gunnison_National_Park):

(all 85 octane)

$4.259 Green River, UT
$3.999 Grand Junction, CO
$3.999 Delta, CO
$4.499 Scipio, UT

Prices dropped in KC from $3.99 over the holiday weekend (go figure:mad:) to $3.92.

In St. Joseph (60 miles away) they went from $3.75 over the weekend to $3.82.

There is some email about oil drilling in Alaska and where the proposed location is and what is being disputed about protecting our natural habitats. I've attached it..... makes you wonder who is telling the truth?????:confused:

We just had a $.10 increase overnight. That officially placed Kansas city Missouri over $4/ gal:mad:

I shouldn't moan about $4 per gallon. In the UK it is now over £5 per gallon which equates to over $10 per gallon, thanks to Tatty Brown and his stupid labour cohorts.

Ken

In Detroit, Mi gas price is around $4.19 per gallon. At some stations you could pay a lower price if you pay in cash.

I paid $4.29 this morning in Macedon NY (Rochester), closer to work (Henrietta) the price is $4.17.

We are starting to see the "discount for cash" thing going on around here now. What is so funny is that it used to be that stations encouraged you to use a card at the pumps so they could minimize the number of employees they needed to run the stations. Now, they want you to pay cash, this could mean that if you are like me you have to plunk down more than you think you need and then go back a second time for change.

So now, clerks that just barely were capable of ringing up the sundries now have to ring up each gas purchase, add whatever additional purchases, keep track of who gave them what for the pumps plus make the correct change. LOL, who is shooting themselves in the foot here? Will the amount of money they save on the credit card fees pay for 2 or three additional employees?

I hope so.:applause: I like paying less for gas, when paying in cash, sometimes 5 or 6 cents less per gallon

Price progression at a Sinclair station near my work:

Friday 7/11 - $3.99
Monday 7/14 - $4.09
Today 7/15 - $4.14

Also jumped 10 cents over the weekend to $4.09 at the Costco near us.

£1.17(.9)p a litre in the UK for me, Unleaded - and thats about the cheapest in the region.

The variation in prices here is silly at the moment. 10p per litre I think - all in the same county.

Pays to shop around.

www.petrolprices.com (http://www.petrolprices.com) for anyone in the UK!

In Kansas City it hit $4.09 and in St. Joseph (60 miles away) it is $3.84...:confused: Someone is making money....

A little perspective for non-US citizens wondering why we are complaining about $4 gallon gas... Our states are about the same size as countries in most cases.... We have been urged by our government and businesses to move OUT of the city and enjoy living in the burbs away from noise of the city and to see more of nature..... Now that we've done that it caused more gas consumption which grew the demand... It has practically doubled in price in the last year. Not only are we driving farther (due to trying to live the american dream) it costs twice as much to get there.

They showed a commercial by T. Boone Pickens who has this insight on how to change things and he'll let us know soon...part of the commercial showed our reliance on foreign oil growth from 20% back in the 70's to 60%+ today. I thought those were interesting statistics (I may not be completely accurate on dates and numbers but should be close) and am anticipating what his great insight is...

Is he out to make a buck or is he old now and wants to make a difference in the world???... I know of him as being associated with Oklahoma State University and he has made huge contributions to them....I guess we'll see...:2cents:

Within the last 24 hours one gas station ( Quik Trip) changed gas prices 3 times.... 3 TIMES:mad:

Beginning ( on way to work) $4.06.
Middle (on way home) $4.09
End (on way to work this morn) $3.99

You HAVE got to be kidding me....:bonk:

:truce: Seriously, I give up.

How many times was the Tanker there to fill up the tank within the 24hr period??????????????

That station gets gas twice a week tops....

Looks like gas prices have leveled off.....:2cents:

:tg: There are dropping fast round here, $3.84 a gallon yesterday. :yes:

I paid 2.58 last Saturday!:biglaugh:(discounted by $1.22 by my grocery store) I actually filled up my car for less than $35, I was so excited, my son told me to stop doing the happy dance, i was embarrassing him.

They've been static for a few weeks in the UK.

Reports in the news of cuts to reflect the falling price of crude. Not notices any fall myself yet though :mad:

Big city is at $3.79/ gallon. Small city is at $3.69/ gallon.

I like this idea... A bushel of food trades even up for a barrel of oil....sounds like that is a fair trade to me.....:applause:

Gas prices are ranging $3.56/gal to $3.63/gal between St. Joseph and Kansas City.

How happy we must be that it is that far from $4.00 :sarcasm:

Wasn't it Mobile or one of the big oil companies that just announced it's billions in profits this last quarter that set a record?????:argue:

If they are making record profits why are we paying so much for gas???

Sounds like we have been a victim of propaganda at it's best...:truce:

In Southern California, the prices are still over $4.30 per US gallon.

In Southern California, the prices are still over $4.30 per US gallon.

Isn't everything in California more expensive?:tg:

Us hicks have a hard time scraping pennies up to pay for it and since we can't count worth a lick we prolly pay that much and more:lmao:

I needed some humor today.....

We had a $.19/gallon jump over night.:mad:

Do you think big brother is monitoring this thread???:lmao:

I find it hard to believe that the market is so volatile that prices change 4-6 times a week.:nope:

Prices from our Oregon trip last week:

7/25/2008: $4.079 - Ogden, Utah (Costco)
7/25/2008: $3.989 - Boise, Idaho (Costco)
7/26/2008: $4.259 - Pendleton, Oregon
7/27/2008: $4.039 - Salem, Oregon
8/2/2008: $3.859 - Wilsonville, Oregon (Costco)
8/3/2008: $4.189 - Baker City, Oregon
8/3/2008: $3.949 - Boise, Idaho (Costco)

Isn't everything in California more expensive?:tg:

Us hicks have a hard time scraping pennies up to pay for it and since we can't count worth a lick we prolly pay that much and more:lmao:

I needed some humor today.....

Yes the cost of living is more expensive. But, I do have a correction: I saw the prices at $4.09 per US Gallon, unleaded.

July 24, Whitefish, Montana, most prices at $4.079/gal reg. unleaded (no ethanol added)
July 24, West Glacier, Montana, two stations, both at $4.189/gal
Aug 1, St. Mary, Montana, $4.599 (only station in town!)
Aug 1, Browning, Montana, $4.189 (2 stations - other two stations on main street in town were closed and shuttered.)
Aug 2, West Glacier, still at $4.189
Aug 2, Kalispell, Montana, $4.039
Aug 2, Hungry Horse, Montana, $4.039
Aug 2, Columbia Falls, Montana, $4.039
Aug 2, Whitefish, Montana, $4.039
Aug 5, Libertyville, IL range from $3.959 to $3.999 (spread in early July was as much as $0.23 between stations for same grade)

$3.79 in Southern Indiana. My wife was in LA (Lower Alabama) and it was 3.53. 99cents by spring!!

Dropped to around £1.15p per litre here now. Thats a fall of about 5p in the past week.

Supermarkets helped kick start the price cutting competition :applause:

As per msn (http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/12400801/) -

Price drops $4.82 to settle at $115.20 on demand expectations

Oil prices dove to $115 a barrel on Friday, driven lower by a huge jump in the U.S. dollar, signs of moderating demand around the world and the burgeoning belief that commodities may have peaked.

Shrugging off concerns about a sabotaged oil pipeline in Turkey, investors pulled their money out of commodities and put it back into stocks — giving crude oil a weekly loss of nearly $10 a barrel, and driving the Dow Jones industrial average up more than 300 points.

This morning I saw prices range in the Rochester area from $3.99 (Walworth) to $3.85 (Henrietta). The two stations are about 25 miles apart from each other.

Phil

I saw at an ARCO yesterday $3.97 first time I have seen it under $4.00 in weeks or even months.

$3.619 in Orange City, Florida.

If someone had told me two years ago that I would be happy to see gasoline at $3.62 per gallon, I would have determined that this person was nuts and called the authorities. :bonk:

$3.619 in Orange City, Florida.

If someone had told me two years ago that I would be happy to see gasoline at $3.62 per gallon, I would have determined that this person was nuts and called the authorities. :bonk:

All I can say to that is.... Ditto:confused:

My weekly update from Misery (uh, that's Missouri)...

Kansas city $3.63/ gallon

St. Joseph $3.49/ gallon

60 miles apart. I can't get over the price difference. It has been up to $.22/gallon at times.

The least they could do is give us a kiss....:rolleyes:

All I can say to that is.... Ditto:confused:

My weekly update from Misery (uh, that's Missouri)...

Kansas city $3.63/ gallon

St. Joseph $3.49/ gallon

60 miles apart. I can't get over the price difference. It has been up to $.22/gallon at times.

The least they could do is give us a kiss....:rolleyes:

Palmer-

And the kiss probably would have only cost ExxonMobil and the rest of them a paltry billion $US or so in profit margin...

Also... a bartender at my favorite pub in central Florida was wearing a t-shirt yesterday that said, "Beer - it's now cheaper than gasoline, so drink - don't drive" :D

I love it....

They tried to make a car that would run on beer due to beer costing less but the car started weaving after a couple of gallons....:lmao:

If you would have told me more than a year ago I would feel like this I would tell you that you were absolutely, certifiably, crazy...but here goes....

Gas fell to $3.45/gallon in St. Joseph last night..(I'm doing a happy dance, look real hard and you can see) I no longer need my special wheels...what a relief....:applause:

:beerdive::beerdive::beerdive::beerdive::beerdive::beerdive::beerdive:
:drunk::drunk::drunk::drunk::drunk::drunk::drunk::drunk::drunk::drunk:

Gas price's in St Joe are at $3.42/gallon.

Kansas City prices have gone from $3.67/gallon to $3.57/gallon and all ranges in between as St. Joe has held steady. This included 2 tanker deliveries to St. Joe during that time.

Someone is putting the screws to someone....:frust:

I filled up at the station one block from my apartment this morning at $3.41/gallon. Went to lunch in Summerville, GA just now and it was $3.39/gallon....A few months ago, prices in Summerville were at least a dime more than in Fort Payne....:confused:

$3.85 Unleaded Midrange $3.95 per US gallon at ARCO as of 08/22/08 10:25 AM Pacific Time.

Deep south TX just dropped to $3.37 for unleaded, that's the cheapest ATM

3.48 $US per gallon this morning in Orange City, FL.. woohoooo!!

If someone had told me two years ago that I would be woohoooing over $3.48 a gallon I would have held them for the authorities!

You're preaching to the choir John....:cool:

Still $3.42 in St. Joe and down to $3.51 in KC. St. Jow has held steady at $3.42 for almost 3 weeks. I was letting off the gas but this drop (gulp, I can't believe I'm saying this) I put my foot to the pedal again and quit coasting :lmao:

Wow....gas prices decline and the thread goes dead....guess they can say "Mission Accomplished"....raise prices til they scream then lower them slightly and it is acceptable.....:bonk:

Wow....gas prices decline and the thread goes dead....guess they can say "Mission Accomplished"....raise prices til they scream then lower them slightly and it is acceptable.....:bonk:This morning, I had a few errands to run in a ten mile radius from my home. Brand name gasoline (87 octane unleaded, some with, some without ethanol added) ran from $3.83 to $4.21. Within the same brand (Mobil) the range ran from $3.90 to $4.21. I know for a fact there is absolutely no difference in local excise or sales taxes between the various locations. All variation between stations (other than greed of operator) is due to real estate cost for station owner or wholesale price from distributor,

These were pump prices, before rebates for using certain credit cards or discounts for car wash purchases. The Citgo stations were consistently within 5 cents of each other. Shell and Mobil ranged from 20 cent spreads to 31 cent spreads. Local law DOES allow discount for cash versus credit, but none of the stations in our area have yet deployed that strategy. Elsewhere in our state, the maximum credit fee to the station owner by American Express is 2 per cent (the highest of ALL credit cards), but stations discounting for cash are creating an average 5 per cent spread. This means either cash buyers are getting a real bargain or credit buyers are being screwed!
Added in edit:
I suppose it could also mean the station owners are TERRIBLE at math! :-)

Here is a link to show Gas Prices and Stations for your Postal Zip Code: MSN Gas Prices by postal zip code (http://autos.msn.com/everyday/gasstations.aspx?zip=&pkw=PI&vendor=Paid+Inclusion&OCID=iSEMPI)

Here is the link for the San Fernando Valley: San Fernando Valley Gas Prices (http://autos.msn.com/everyday/GasStations.aspx?m=1&l=1&zip=91311&x=17&y=8)

Here is a link to show Gas Prices and Stations for your Postal Zip Code: MSN Gas Prices by postal zip code (http://autos.msn.com/everyday/gasstations.aspx?zip=&pkw=PI&vendor=Paid+Inclusion&OCID=iSEMPI)

Here is the link for the San Fernando Valley: San Fernando Valley Gas Prices (http://autos.msn.com/everyday/GasStations.aspx?m=1&l=1&zip=91311&x=17&y=8)FIGURES DON'T LIE, BUT LIARS FIGURE. A quick check shows the stations reporting in my zip code are reporting prices AFTER discounts for buying car wash, etc. as their lowest prices - :confused: (could be as much as 20 cent difference!) Looks like fewer than 1/2 of stations are on the report list.

I picked up gas in Herriman, UT for $3.59 yesterday but that was after a $0.10 grocery rebate at Smith's Food King. I still long for the gas that is under $3.00 but it is better than the $4.27 I spent last week in CO along I-70.

Mark

Here's the quarterly price switch between St. Joe and Kansas City.

KC = $3.39/gallon
St.Joe = $3.49/gallon

Basically, a complete reversal of price difference. This happens about every 3 months and lasts maybe 2 weeks. Then it will switch back for the rest of the quarter.

60 miles apart and one city stays at least $.10/gallon lower for almost an entire quarter then the prices switch for 2 weeks before it goes back to this....:confused::confused::bonk::bonk:

To quote The Rock..."can you smell what The Rock is cooking?..."

I was driving home tonight and about had a cow....Quik Trip had gas at....:mg: $3.02/gallon:drool::drool::drool::drool::drool::drool:

I would never have thought that we would see gas prices that low again...unbelievable

I was driving home tonight and about had a cow....Quik Trip had gas at....:mg: $3.02/gallon:drool::drool::drool::drool::drool::drool:

I would never have thought that we would see gas prices that low again...unbelievable
Did you buy it at that price?

I have an anecdote where I was the chump.

Some time back when gas was approaching $4.00/gallon, I was driving on the interstate in Wisconsin and I saw a sign near one of the exits for gas at $2.39. I missed the exit, but drove a number of miles to the next one and drove back, figuring it was a special promotion or gas war, got off at the interchange and worked my way to the station. When I got to the station, I found it completely closed, with the pumps removed and the building deteriorating, obviously closed for months. The fifty foot high sign was still there, though, beckoning bargain hunters to "$2.39!":frust:

It is SAD to think that $3.02 is low!

Still hanging around $3.50/3.60/gal in east central Florida..

$3.29 a gallon here in Minnesota.:rolleyes:

$3.29 a gallon here in Minnesota.:rolleyes:Cheapest within ten miles of my home in northern Illinois is $3.88, with several still at $4.05 to $4.09! Actually nearly a penny more, because the prices actually are $3.889, $4.059, $4.099.

Stations in Fort Payne (and other cities in this area) are having trouble keeping gas in their storage tanks because consumers are topping off their tanks every couple or so days. This puts a constant drain on the shipments the stations are receiving. Some stations that had lower prices also had placed limits on how many gallons could be purchased at a time.

I paid $3.75/gallon for regular unleaded last night. That is one of the higher prices posted in town and one of the few stations that had gas to sell! :mg:

I paid $3.889 yesterday for regular unleaded. Down a bit from three weeks ago. At least we haven't been without like a lot of my fellow North Carolinians in the south and west part of the state.

I paid $3.889 yesterday for regular unleaded. Down a bit from three weeks ago. At least we haven't been without like a lot of my fellow North Carolinians in the south and west part of the state.


We still are!!!!:mad:

Stijloor.

Did you buy it at that price?


Yes I did....and when I came home tonight it was $2.98 a gallon:drool::drool::drool::drool::drool::drool::drool::drool::drool::drool::drool::smokin::smokin::smokin::smokin::smokin::smokin::smokin:

I NEVER thought I would see gas below $3.00/gal again. So this begs the question....why are we so cheap and others are struggling to even get gas.....It would take what.... a day to 1 1/2 days to get from Missouri to anywhere in the USA to deliver gas....and the cost per gallon wouldn't be higher than $3.50/gal. That was a wild guess to help make my point....calculate gallons in a tanker and cost to deliver and add that to $3.02/gallon....My guess is probably high but why is it like that....get out the fishbone diagram and lets analyze.....:tg:

Yes I did....and when I came home tonight it was $2.98 a gallon:drool::drool::drool::drool::drool::drool::drool::drool::drool::drool::drool::smokin::smokin::smokin::smokin::smokin::smokin::smokin:

I NEVER thought I would see gas below $3.00/gal again. So this begs the question....why are we so cheap and others are struggling to even get gas.....It would take what.... a day to 1 1/2 days to get from Missouri to anywhere in the USA to deliver gas....and the cost per gallon wouldn't be higher than $3.50/gal. That was a wild guess to help make my point....calculate gallons in a tanker and cost to deliver and add that to $3.02/gallon....My guess is probably high but why is it like that....get out the fishbone diagram and lets analyze.....:tg:It doesn't help the rant any, but some of the factors that make up the retail price at the pump are


local and state taxes
special formulations unique to a geographic area for EPA reasons
addition/absence of ethanol as a prop to local/regional ethanol producers
market penetration of one refiner versus competitors
temporary dislocations in distribution from refiner to tank farm to individual service stations (weather, damage to refinery, routine maintenance shutdowns, etc.)
real estate and labor costs to own and operate individual stations (in downtown Chicago, land for a service station might be valued at $100/square foot; in my town about $10 or $20/sq ft and in a downstate county as little as $0.50/sq ft (about $20,000/acre)
economies of scale - some stations pump 10 to 100 times as much gasoline per day/year as others due to location and hours of operation and number of pumps. (In the Chicago area, there are some stations that pump so much gasoline and diesel fuel they have direct pipelines to a local tank farm instead of getting tanker truck deliveries)
"loss leaders" - some grocers and department stores subsidize gas prices at pumps at their stores to attract customers to the store.

Add to that the occasional pirate who gouges the public and it's pretty understandable why there is a variation in price even in a limited geographic region like a town, county, or state.

Gas prices dropped to $2.87/gallon this weekend.

I saw a news story about the price drop that stated the USA had used 90 billion gallons of gas less than at this time last year.

If we could continue that trend no matter what the price of gas is we could put a major hurt on those responsible for this price gouging...

Also, in another news story related to gas, GM and Ford are introducing vehicles in Europe that get 65 mpg but will not allow them in the USA.... I haven't looked this up yet but it would be interesting to find out why.

If someone were wealthy enough they could load a ship with these cars they purchase in Europe and bring them here and make a fortune....at least on the surface it appears one could do that...it depends on emission controls and things like that to pass in the USA....:read:

Gas prices dropped to $2.87/gallon this weekend.



:mad:still $3.889 here. Have not been up to VA yet this week, but will go this afternoon. We'll see what is going on up there.

:mad:still $3.889 here. Have not been up to VA yet this week, but will go this afternoon. We'll see what is going on up there.

:mad::mad:Still sh*tty up here in the Queen City....:frust::frust:

Our Mayor (a candidate for Governor) has thrown his hands in the air....
(So much for his visionary leadership.:lol:)

Stijloor.

Jan, If only I had some way of transporting gasoline to you I would. But, unfortunately, a full truck full of gas cans, and a four hour drive don't exactly fulfill my visions of a good time. I don't know how many people here remember the song "convoy" from back in the day....but I think I would feel like the trucker carrying a load of dynamite!

:mad:still $3.889 here. Have not been up to VA yet this week, but will go this afternoon. We'll see what is going on up there.Price range in ten mile radius from my home ranges from $3.799 to $4.059, real estate or location alone does not account, since two [brand name] stations on opposite corners have a 15 cent spread in prices.

I have noticed a major insidious creep in automatic car wash prices. Last year, the spread of prices for a simple exterior "no touch" (all spray) car wash ran from $3.50 to $6.50 with "detailing" interior and exterior ranging from $50 to $70. This year, the least expensive drive-through exterior spray car wash (no dryer) is $5.50 with the price on the same machine for adding wax, blow dry, under-carriage spray, etc. up to $12.50. Detailing is ranging from $99 to $129.

Gas was $3.299 in VA. $3.889 here. That is one of the biggest spreads I've seen, usually (taxes) there is only a 10 or 15 cents difference.

It goes to show how much they putting the screws to consumers who are at their mercy,regardless of taxes, location, etc... There are major issues over the price of gas in the USA and this helps prove the point.

If there was such concern by all government (local, state, etc.) taxes would be suspended for a short period and drastic price ranges would be investigated to the full measure of the law.

There is NO reason for gas prices to $1.00/gal different from here to Steelmaiden's location. Excuses maybe but no reason.

$2.81/gallon this evening

I am moving to ST Joe. We have an oil supplier and he was asked by some one outside our county why gas was higher in our county (current 3.51). His response was "because they can afford it". I have never bought gas from his stations or those who buy from him. :mad::mad:

Just under $3.00 a gallon.:cool:

$2.81 ? Well Crap!

Here I was just celebrating that gas got down to $3.68.
It was 4.05 last week here in McHenry County.

Briz

In SoCal it is $3.419 for regular unleaded as of 10/7/08 06:59 hours

I was shocked, I was in Europe for two weeks working, when I left gas was $3.67 a gallon, today it is $3.31 a gallon! This is in Central New York

I was shocked, I was in Europe for two weeks working, when I left gas was $3.67 a gallon, today it is $3.31 a gallon! This is in Central New York

Dang!! In the tiny little town where I work in northwest GA, gas at the one convenient store in town is $3.95/gallon!! :mad::mad: It's $3.66/gallon in the town where I live...

What's up with that?!

Small town - captive audience.

We hit a new low today.... $3.71/gal

Here's the price movement at the Costco near us starting when it got close to $3/gallon:


Mar 11 $2.959
Mar 14 $3.019
Mar 31 $3.119
Apr 12 $3.149
Apr 24 $3.279
May 4 $3.329
May 15 $3.529
May 30 $3.779
Jun 6 $3.859
Jun 19 $3.879
Jul 3 $3.939
Jul 12 $3.999
Jul 20 $4.059
Aug 5 $4.049
Aug 10 $4.019
Sep 9 $3.609
Sep 17 $3.649
Sep 25 $3.529
Oct 6 $3.429


Been about a 15% drop in two months.

Crude oil has dropped about 40% which tells you that gasoline prices are not directly connected with it.

Bill Pflanz

Crude oil has dropped about 40% which tells you that gasoline prices are not directly connected with it.

Bill Pflanz

Where would the difference go? :lol:

Stijloor.

I saw $3.05 this morning in Troy! Usually one of the worst places to fill up.
I have noticed that a bunch of stations are doing the different prices for credit and cash again. It's been a few years since I've seen that around here. What gets me is when they don't post it on the big sign, you pull up to the pump, swipe the card and see a price that is 10 - 20 cents a gallon more than posted. That is, unless you have one of their credit cards!

Any international input, cost per liter? I was in China and found that they wouldn't discuss their cost. I found it interesting the system they use and the best way I can explain it would be a socialist gas market. Our company (A) gets XXX liters ration per month or week. However, if our owner owns 2 or 3 companies with different names they too get XXXX liters. And that ration can be used as the owner sees fit. Being each company has one or two drivers and in most cases one company car the owner could have some of his ration left over to dispense or sell as he see's fit. I am not saying they don't pay for it all I am saying it is a rationing of some sort. My experience is in the Shenzhen, QuanZho and Shanghi areas only. Any other experiences in other country. I would truly like to read them.

Thanks

$3.399 at Valero this morning 10/9/08

Supermarket price wars good for consumer Asda and Wm Morrison 97.9p/litre

http://business.timesonline.co.uk/tol/business/industry_sectors/retailing/article4976708.ece

$2.69 / gallon in Orange City, Florida this morning... WOOHOO!! (2.689 to be exact)

$2.29/gallon in Kansas City and $2.47/gallon in St. Joe. The trend is broken between the 2 cities where St. Joe was consistently cheaper.

$2.29/gallon in Kansas City and $2.47/gallon in St. Joe. The trend is broken between the 2 cities where St. Joe was consistently cheaper.

That was $2.29 not $3.29? We are still in the $3.29 range in the Rochester NY area.

Phil

Dropped to $3.21 this weekend

Finally - it's under $3/gallon here! Last night at Murphy Oil (WalMart) it was $2.79/gallon in Fort Payne, AL. :biglaugh::biglaugh:

But I noticed one place in GA over the weekend it was $2.59/gallon....Sorry, don't remember exactly where....

Yes $2.29/gallon is correct.....I never thought I would see it that low again but I saw where we have used about 90 million gallons less this year than last year.

If we can do that when it is too high why can't we do that all the time? It shows how much we waste in travel.

Finally - it's under $3/gallon here! Last night at Murphy Oil (WalMart) it was $2.79/gallon in Fort Payne, AL. :biglaugh::biglaugh:

But I noticed one place in GA over the weekend it was $2.59/gallon....Sorry, don't remember exactly where....

I do not foresee that Gas in SoCal will drop under $3.00. Must be nice Gidget.

The PeeDee area of SC:
Cheraw-$2.61
Bennettsville-$2.87
Florence-$2.99

Kansas City dropped to $2.25/gallon last night...

Kansas City dropped to $2.25/gallon last night...


Kansas City, here I come.....:agree1:

Stijloor.

October 22, 2008
Pittsburgh, Pa.
$2.89 / gallon

Getting better by the day!

10-23-08 Regular unleaded $2.359 a gallon in Minnesota.:cool::cool::cool::cool:

$2.99 in Northeast NC.

Kansas City dropped to $2.21/gallon this morning.....unbelievable:bonk:

This stilll shows that there is something drastically wrong with how they price it across the country. Although we all know that different regions have higher (or lower) wages and prices for housing, consummables, etc....

In Denmark we had a drastic fall down to 8DKK/Liter => $5.22 per. Gallon.

:)

No big cars here..

Kansas City dropped again last night, $2.19/gallon.

Last night the news said that a barrel of oil has reached it's lowest price in 16 months. The national average is $2.88/gallon (Ithink).

If you are paying more than you were 12 months ago then you need to contact your state's attorney and make them aware of price gouging.

How much do you travel in Denmark? Is $5/gallon gouging or is it a fair price because of how they have to get it to you?

Kansas City dropped again last night, $2.19/gallon.

Last night the news said that a barrel of oil has reached it's lowest price in 16 months. The national average is $2.88/gallon (Ithink).

If you are paying more than you were 12 months ago then you need to contact your state's attorney and make them aware of price gouging.

How much do you travel in Denmark? Is $5/gallon gouging or is it a fair price because of how they have to get it to you?

As a former European (The Netherlands), I can tell you that most of the gas price is taxes. Fuel is a highly/heavily taxed commodity in Europe.

Stijloor.

In Denmark 5$ per gallon is ok, it has dropped from around $6.8 in the last couple of month so we are happy. The price has to do with taxes (Denmark is Oil exporting).

$0,88 a litre
3% less then a month ago.
I think you are interested in USA prices mainly, aren't you?

We are 99.6 cents/L here in Toronto. Yep, still getting fleeced (to quote one of the provincial politicians).

Let me see oil has dropped ~65% since the summer.

Our gas prices have dropped ~27%...anybody else think there is a fox in the henhouse?

I just paid $2.699 this morning on my way into work. Down $0.10 from yesterday's price :lol:

To translate CDN prices to USA prices

.99/6 cents = ~80cent USD
L into Gallons = 3.8L/G

Therefore our price is $3.04USD/US Gal

$0,88 a litre
3% less then a month ago.
I think you are interested in USA prices mainly, aren't you?

No, not just USA prices. I like the fact that oil has dropped 65% but prices just 27%. It doesn't jive. It sounds more like it was a ruse to get more margin than anything...

Prices around the world gives a better perspective of the world economy IMHO. I'm sure that in Arab countries and South America the price is lower but that is opinion based on items I've seen over the last few years. I know that last year I saw a segment on TV where Venezuela had a price of $.12/gallon (or maybe that was liter) but shows how much we are getting shafted worldwide.

No, not just USA prices. I like the fact that oil has dropped 67% but prices just 27%. It doesn't jive. It sounds more like it was a ruse to get more margin than anything...

Prices around the world gives a better perspective of the world economy IMHO. I'm sure that in Arab countries and South America the price is lower but that is opinion based on items I've seen over the last few years. I know that last year I saw a segment on TV where Venezuela had a price of $.12/gallon (or maybe that was liter) but shows how much we are getting shafted worldwide.There is a two to four week lag time between oil price (barrel of crude oil) and refined gasoline at the pump, after transport to refinery, refining, transport to tank farms, transport to service station (where it reflects all the transport and refining costs PLUS transportation costs PLUS profit for every step in the chain PLUS taxes imposed by federal. state, and local political subdivisions.

Currently, within ten air miles of my house (driving miles are about 15 because of rivers and lakes in between), the gas prices for regular unleaded (cash) range from $2.79 to $3.29. There doesn't seem to be any rhyme or reason to the pricing which could be accounted for by brand name of station or geographic location. One town (Waukegan) has a Citgo selling gas at $2.79 and less than 1/2 mile down the same street (still within Waukegan) the same brand had a price of $3.19, while the BP (British Petroleum - normally one of the highest priced brands) on the next block from the $3.19 Citgo was selling its gas at $3.13! My own town (3 mile radius) ranges from $3.13 to $3.29.

What about diesel?!!
Tell me what diesel fuel for autos costs in your town compared to gasoline. In my area, fewer than half the stations sell diesel for autos and the price disparity (diesel is ALWAYS higher) ranges from $0.50 to $0.80 per gallon. Therefore, a Mobil station at the south end of town is selling regular, unleaded gasoline at $3.19 and diesel at $3.79.

I gassed up at $2.999 yesterday morning at the locally-owned gas station near my work. First time below $3/gallon since March, and about 10 cents higher then this time last year.

On the way home it was $2.979.

This morning it was $2.959.


What about diesel?!!


Yesterday when unleaded gasoline was $2.979, diesel was $3.499.

What kind of MPG do diesel automobiles get? I assume that's the appeal of using diesel but I've never looked into it.

Diesel runs at least $.70/gallon higher and in most case $.90.

Remember when deisel was always cheaper than gas??????? What changed? Isn't diesel less refined and therefore not as much work put into making it?

:topic: This birngs to mind a small city in the burbs of KC called Sugar Creek. Amoco had a refinery there forever then BP took over. There are many citizens who have acquired brain cancer. My grandfather worked there 40+ years and died of cancer in several places.

They bought out several streets of housing due to dumping close to these homes and there have been several lawsuits that they have paid over all of this.

I got gas at Wal-Mart in Cheraw, SC Tuesday evening at $2.56/gal.

I got gas at Wal-Mart in Cheraw, SC Tuesday evening at $2.56/gal.Then stop ordering beans!:lmao: Those legumes will do you in every time!

Diesel runs at least $.70/gallon higher and in most case $.90.

Remember when deisel was always cheaper than gas??????? What changed? Isn't diesel less refined and therefore not as much work put into making it?

:topic: This birngs to mind a small city in the burbs of KC called Sugar Creek. Amoco had a refinery there forever then BP took over. There are many citizens who have acquired brain cancer. My grandfather worked there 40+ years and died of cancer in several places.

They bought out several streets of housing due to dumping close to these homes and there have been several lawsuits that they have paid over all of this.

Supply and demand deisel was cheaper than gas, deisel motors had more power and durability, add the turbo-charger higher performance, people started buying more deisel powered cars, trucks, etc etc.... ergo deisel fuel prices skyrocketed. :(

Supply and demand deisel was cheaper than gas, deisel motors had more power and durability, add the turbo-charger higher performance, people started buying more deisel powered cars, trucks, etc etc.... ergo deisel fuel prices skyrocketed. :(

Yeah, what he said. I remember the year that those deisel prices skyrocketted to meet the gasoline prices. I was driving a big deisel back in the days when I was still raising, training and showing horses. It nearly bankrupted me to be on the road. We were seeing all kinds of deisel engine cars being imported and sold because they got better mileage, prices for deisel were lower (until everyone bought a deisel, lol) and the engines were better, lasted longer, and cheaper to maintain. (as long as your nephew was a deisel mechanic, anyway!:lmao:)

I gassed up at $2.999 yesterday morning at the locally-owned gas station near my work. First time below $3/gallon since March, and about 10 cents higher then this time last year.

On the way home it was $2.979.

This morning it was $2.959.


Summary:
Oct 22 morning: $2.999
Oct 22 evening: $2.979
Oct 23 morning: $2.959
Oct 23 evening: $2.939
Oct 24 morning: $2.899

They recently installed a new electronic price sign*, otherwise I'd worry about the poor slob that has to go out and change the price 2+ times a day.

*which is hard to read when the early morning sun is beating on it.

In England, we are just starting to see drops in price due to the oil downturn, however in the paper today they started mentioning a price increase due to a cut in oil output globally. I bet we wont have to wait 2 to 4 weeks before they bump the petrol prices up again. Small window to buy as much petrol (gas) as possible.

I payed $2.68 the day before yesterday, today it is $2.58, and the lowest in America is $1.98 a gallon, in Texas.

I wonder if we will see below $1.50 in the next 6 weeks?

Makes just want get out and drive and get some of that cheap gas before it goes back up....:biglaugh:
But this has to be good news for the hard working folks who own and drive trucks for a living. A morning drive show here in SE Wisc. this morning noted something they saw on the www that there is supposably the largest reserve of oil EVER found somewhere in North Dakota, now I am no doubter and as soon as I receive that 10 Mil from that Prince in Suadia Arabia or South Africa who I am helping out. I might just drive out there and see for myself...:cool:

Kansas City was $2.15/gallon this morning.

Kansas City was $2.15/gallon this morning.Libertyville, IL @ 2:00 pm CDT, the price ranged from $3.139 to $3.199. Seven miles away in Waukegan, IL at 1:30 pm CDT, the price ranged from $2.719 to $2.739 (same brand names) - each town has IDENTICAL sales and fuel tax!

I guess us "rich folk" up in northern Illinois all have "sucker" tattooed on our foreheads

:D Wes, go easy on you "rich folk". Now if you drove down to KC to get ya some of that 2.159 gas I think you would have an argument for the "sucker" thing...Your friends up here in Milwaukee are seeing 2.74/2.77 and I know folks driving down to get some of the KC 2.159 gas, but they are using their RV's:biglaugh:

We are still paying $3.29 out here in southern Idaho.:(

Kansas City hit $2.03/gallon this weekend.

St. Joe is at $2.09/gallon

:mg::mg::mg::mg::mg::mg::mg::mg::mg::mg:

I can't believe it....

lol, we made it to 2.749.

I hate to butt in with a European perspective - but over here in the UK our petrol recently hit £1.25 (at the exchange rate at the time was $2.25 - PER LITRE which equals $8.55 per US gallon)

It has fallen back to around £0.97 now, which at the current exchange rate is around $1.60 per litre, ($6 per US gallon) :D

You guys don't know how lucky you are! :bonk:

:biglaugh: $2.299 a gallon here in the northwest suburbs of Minneapolis, Minnesota.:cool:

achorste. Thank you for that perspective, this is what I find interesting. The world perspective on our views is interesting. I have traveled to China, Korea as well as Mexico and Chile and I always enjoy speaking about world matters. As far as "lucky" I guess that is your view. My brother-in law is an over the road hauler in the USA and the last 3 months have been very tough on him (as well as others). And this is becuase (in my view) why we export and loose jobs and income and gas (petrol) prices rose so fast we (Americans) did not know how to react and to some degree still do not. So it was and is scary. Let's hope the worst is behind all of us, but somehow I doubt it.:2cents:

Best of luck to you folks across the pond.

Thanks again

Hubby and I just got back last night from a weekend trip to southwestern VA and the cheapest price we saw was $2.49/gallon - until we passed through Rising Fawn, GA last night and saw the price had dropped a nickel to $2.44/gallon....

lol, we made it to 2.749.Best price in my own town (Libertyville) is $2.979 (down from $3.139 Oct 24.) Today's median $2.999, High $3.119 - still $0.28 higher than what I paid in the next town on Friday, Oct 24.

Kansas City hit $1.93/gallon last night.

St. Joe is at $2.04/gallon.

How low can it go??????:lmao:

Really, I'm in awe as to how low it is here.

I do not foresee that Gas in SoCal will drop under $3.00. Must be nice Gidget.

I guess I was wrong. Just saw it today at $2.959 at ARCO

$2.199 a gallon in Minnesota as of 10-28-08.:D:cool:

$2.079 a gallon yesterady in Buffalo, Mn. I am thinking under $2.00 a gallon this week-end. :magic::lol:

Kansas city hit $1.89/gallon:mg: