djaphro
24th March 2008, 11:42 PM
Hi guys..We have commissioned a temperature control room, say a basic oven. It is required to increase the temp of steel to ambient befor eit can be painted. Is there any formula to determine the time, a product has to spend in the oven (at a particular temperature) with respect to its mass? any assistance is appreciated. Thanq.
CarolX
26th March 2008, 12:10 PM
I would reccomend speaking with your paint supplier. They should be able to give you some guidance on this.
Our paint supplier also offers a service of running their data pack through our curing oven. This measures the actual temperature of product through the process.
Jim Wynne
26th March 2008, 12:24 PM
Hi guys..We have commissioned a temperature control room, say a basic oven. It is required to increase the temp of steel to ambient befor eit can be painted. Is there any formula to determine the time, a product has to spend in the oven (at a particular temperature) with respect to its mass? any assistance is appreciated. Thanq.
I'm no physicist, but this seems to be a Second Law of Thermodynamics (http://hyperphysics.phy-astr.gsu.edu/hbase/thermo/seclaw.html) problem. What you're looking for is maximum entropy-the state where heat transfer effectively ceases due to a state of thermodynamic equilibrium having been reached (the heated mass is equal in temperature to the energy source).
I think the issue might be complicated by the size of the object in addition to its mass, and other factors such as "hot spots" in the oven.
Tim Folkerts
26th March 2008, 01:57 PM
I AM a physicist! :-)
Questions like this will depend greatly on a number of factors!
* how much power can the heater provide? if the heater is small, the cold steel would cool off the room, and it would take a while for the heater to catch back up. A large heater will be able to hold the temperature where you want it.
* what is the shape of the steel? Long thin pieces with lots of area exposed to the air will warm much faster than a large chunk.
* what sort of air flow do you have? if the air is still, then it will effectively act like insulation, and the parts will warm up slowly.
* the particular material will matter too. Steel (especially stainless steel) tends to have a low thermal conductivity, which means the "heat" can't travel quickly or easily thru the material.
Tim F
Al Rosen
26th March 2008, 02:36 PM
I AM a physicist! :-)
Questions like this will depend greatly on a number of factors!
* how much power can the heater provide? if the heater is small, the cold steel would cool off the room, and it would take a while for the heater to catch back up. A large heater will be able to hold the temperature where you want it.
* what is the shape of the steel? Long thin pieces with lots of area exposed to the air will warm much faster than a large chunk.
* what sort of air flow do you have? if the air is still, then it will effectively act like insulation, and the parts will warm up slowly.
* the particular material will matter too. Steel (especially stainless steel) tends to have a low thermal conductivity, which means the "heat" can't travel quickly or easily thru the material.
Tim FSpoken like a true Physicist. An engineer would say, "Look up Newton's Law of Cooling and approximate everything you can".
djaphro
26th March 2008, 07:41 PM
Thank you guys... i'll try my best to ellaborate...
This is a process of pre-heating a mild steel tank, say 2 cu.m before it can be put into the painting process.
The oven has a gas burner that can supply 700 MJ. the temp can reach upto 180 deg C.
As i said, its a tank, 5mm thick mild steel
There is a continuous transfer of air, exhausted out of the oven