We build pipe fabrication for the petro/chemical industry. There are a variety of process material flowing through it at a variety of pressures.
We hold an ASME 'S' stamp but are not ISO or any other certification.

I have been mandated to 'revise' our QC Manual to include this.

Should the existing manual be rewriten to include this, or an addendum...?

Kenny

I have moved this post to this forum since it really didn't apply to the Use of the Forum Software.

This forum addresses other standards, where you may get better responses.

the PED (pressure equipment directive) gives you all the information you need to comply to, do you have a copy? if not, you really should get a copy. I cannot directly answer your questions because we fell into the whole "if you are ISO 9001 registered, and your CB has a European presence, then you are automatically in compliance to the directive" clause. Find a copy of the directive, it really isn't very complicated compared to some of the directives out there. pretty straightforward in its requirements.

What is the name of the document I need?
Is it free issue or does it cost?
Where can I obtain it from?

Thanks so very much!!

Hi again kennycat.

There is more to it than simply revising your quality manual.

There are tables in Annex II of the directive that mandate what modules you may need to follow to comply with PED.

Here is the directive, it's free. http://ec.europa.eu/enterprise/pressure_equipment/ped/index_en.html

If you are CE marking to anything beyond Category I you will need the involvement of a Notified Body.

Digest this and get back to us with more specific questions.

Thanks Scott, I knew somebody would come up with the proper references! u da man!

just for some added info....the need for PED compliance does not necessarily require CE marking....it depends upon the customer/location of customer. We held PED compliance for at least 2 years before we ever got into the CE scheme.

We are a very large pipe manufacturer and are obviously entering into the market over seas.
Three of our shops are mandated to move forward now. We are all thre ASME stamp holders.
We are well established but not ISO certified. We build pipe fabrication from 1/4" OD to 66"+ OD and have some in our shop now over 5-3/4" thick. It is used for many applications but most is pressurized in service.

We are a very large pipe manufacturer and are obviously entering into the market over seas.
Three of our shops are mandated to move forward now. We are all thre ASME stamp holders.
We are well established but not ISO certified. We build pipe fabrication from 1/4" OD to 66"+ OD and have some in our shop now over 5-3/4" thick. It is used for many applications but most is pressurized in service.

Having the ASME stamp will certainly help in getting your documentation in order. What Steel says is important... you can comply with PED and not CE mark. You can even CE mark to the PED and not need notified body approval.
The tables in Annex II dictate the "level" of compliance.

If you don't need notified body approval you will still need an "Authorized Representative in the community". Basically an EU rep for your products. If you have a sister company in the EU that makes it easy. If not, you'll need to find someone to partner with in that regard.
In our case, we have a distributor in Germany who is our authorized rep. That doesn't mean we can't sell direct to customers - but the authorized rep must be listed on your Declaration of Conformity.

The Tables in Annex Two for piping are read by pressure PS (in bar) and Nominal Size (DN). We do safety accessories, not piping so I'm not an expert at DN numbers. Choosing the table is based on Article 3 section 1.3. Choose the indent for the application you want to sell for.

Thanks Scott, I knew somebody would come up with the proper references! u da man!

just for some added info....the need for PED compliance does not necessarily require CE marking....it depends upon the customer/location of customer. We held PED compliance for at least 2 years before we ever got into the CE scheme.

no problem a'tall. Just went through Module D Re-registration a couple weeks ago and filed an ammendment to one of our technical files shortly after.

It's all fresh in the noggin.

I just love being an international supplier:rolleyes:

My life was so simple a year ago, I thought our rules and regulations were long, drawn out and tough to read/understand. :notme:

We build pipe fabrication for the petro/chemical industry. There are a variety of process material flowing through it at a variety of pressures.
We hold an ASME 'S' stamp but are not ISO or any other certification.

I have been mandated to 'revise' our QC Manual to include this.

Should the existing manual be rewriten to include this, or an addendum...?

Kenny

Kenny,
Check with your ASME auditor to see if including the ISO to the ASME manual will cause any issues before going forward. We hold an R-Certificate (National Board) and are ISO 13485 certified, we have kept the two separate.

Phil

Hi Kennycat,

Do you still need infirmation or not about that subject ?

I think I can help you.

On the first question, basically, I would say that you don't need a new Manual. You can write an addenda to it.

Cabmille