I am starting this somewhat early, because the recruiting class and games were televised about a month ago in late March/early April 2008.....

This time, we get to posture a bit.....let's do the brag and swagger routine in advance.....

Let's describe why our respective team(s) will do well or not so well in the upcoming fall season.....

If any are fuzzy as to conferences, and some have switched after all.....

http://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/conferences

Now, to stir the pot just a little.....I was born in FL, grew up in AL.....live in So Cal.....I was born a Gator, adopted the Tide.....and respect the Ducks and Beavers, and most especially if they beat USC or UCLA, but especially USC.....

Let's have some FUN!!!!!!!

Well, it is early, and there has not been much news coverage yet, but...

The Georgia Bulldogs are going to be the team to beat.

One thing I did see the other day is that the 'Dogs are looking a lot farther afield for future non-conference games. Notre Dame, for one, has been talked to, but it seems they could not work anything out.

Personally, along with the Ducks and Beavers, I would like to see Georgia beat USC (and not the one in the state just north of here) as well.

I agree, the Dawgs are the ones to beat in SEC East, but the Gators may be spoilers there.....

Sorry to rain on your parade but the Mizzou Tigers are going to take it all this year. They showed their meddle last year and if they hadn't riled the Sooners with bulletin board talk would have been in the championship.

This year they will take it all and Chase Daniels will become a household name and hero of the small quarterbacks in America....:yes::cool:

No discussion here. The Rose Bowl will be won by USCalifornia (not University of South Carolina)

But, maybe UCLA might do better with their new Coach, but won't win the Rose Bowl

Over the weekend I got "The History of SEC Football" from Netflix.....absolutely fantastic.....anyone that enjoys good football and rivalries should see this DVD.....

I enjoyed that Alabama and one other SEC team won in the Rose Bowl.....and Alabama beat USC (So Cal) in the Rose Bowl the year they played.....

Michigan Wolverines fan here!
Also somewhat a SEC fan, but only because I have had the pleasure of watching SEC teams EMBARRASS Ohio State!

Wolverines.....one of the few Big-10 teams that would be welcomed as a SEC team.....not to say Big-10 is not good.....Big-10 is great football.....but there is good (ACC, Big East, Conf USA), Great (Big 10 and Big 12), and then there is SEC.....

For example.....if you want to rob a bank in AL.....do it during the Iron Bowl.....you will have 2-3 hours before anyone even knows.....personally, I think the Iron Bowl lost a bit when they went to the current system and away from the neutral site.....

OK, I am a bit biased.....

Anyone in Vegas for the Iron Bowl besides me?

I know this is the football thread, but I can't resist....


GO DOGS!!!!

in the college World Series starting this weekend. It should be great to watch.

We will overlook it.....after all, you are rooting for the DAWGS.....I realize you were being PC for others.....

Now, starting the run to the National Championship.....

SEC East: Dawgs may take it, but have to get past my Gators and the Gamecocks.....

SEC West: LSU is favored of course, but Saban may have the Tide ready for them, and Auburn will be in the hunt too.....

Conference USA: We could see more surprises from this conference this year.....

Big 10: Should be good.....Big Blue, Ohio State, and the Nittany Lions should all be strong.....

Big 12: Appears to be rebuilding, but still good football.....

Pac 10, aside from the OR teams and AZ State should be the usual wimp conference.....OK, USC will be fast but let them get hit a bunch.....

ACC and Big East: should have several strong contenders as they have had the last couple of years.....

Now, Southerners like me appreciate good football, and root for other teams that we respect, until they play teams we are fanatics about.....
Go GATORS!!!! Roll TIDE!!!!

And may the tide wash the gators into the gulf.

Keep talkin'.

The Dawgs are gonna win the baseball championship, and the football dawgs, well...

They will do well. We'll see...

Yeah, but if GA needs its baseball and home ec and whatever else, they will get chomped.....however, I am not so foolish as to discount the football program.....OK, Vince Dooley is not there, but the current Coach is pretty good.....

GO GATORS! ROLL TIDE!

Go Mountaineers!

Yeah, but if GA needs its baseball and home EC and whatever else, they will get chomped.....however, I am not so foolish as to discount the football program.....OK, Vince Dooley is not there, but the current Coach is pretty good.....

GO GATORS! ROLL TIDE!

The only home ec I remember from the time I was in Athens was some snacks made in a sorority house, but that's another story....

!5 years from now the Dooley years will have paled in comparison.

So you agree, then, that the gators really bite?

:rolleyes::notme:

I believe I phrased it differently.......:)

And may the tide wash the gators into the gulf.

Keep talkin'.

The Dawgs are gonna win the baseball championship, and the football dawgs, well...

They will do well. We'll see...

I know, I know...

Keep talkin'.

Sheesh, I sure didn't see that coming. Congrats to Fresno State.

Mizzou will make a run for the title this year.... They got robbed and robbed theirselves last year. That will be their motivation:cool:

Yeah though they have some tough competition in the Big 12 South.....or are they North?

They are in the north. Experts are saying that Oklahoma is better (south) and theat the 2 will meet for the Big 12 championship.

I think that these championship games for leagues are costing teams too much in rankings to play.... Last year Mizzou didn't get a BCS game but Kansas did....because Mizzou lost in the Big 12 championship that Kansas did not play in.... :confused:

All the Gators need is a decent, healthy strong safety and a serviceable running back so Percy Harvin can concentrate more on recieving. We have absolutely everything else we need.

GO GATORS !!!!

Don't you need a coach too???...(snicker):notme:

Gotta get things stirred up a bit...the season is too close not to...LOL

Fortunately, the MO Tigers don't play the Gators.....but if the Tigers are successful may have the priviledge of losing to them in a bowl.....

GO GATORS!!!

Somebody's gonna lose to the Gators in the BCS championship game.. by the way, which bowl is hosting that this year? Lately I've been too caught up in trivial matters such as work and family to keep up with what is truly important.

GO GATORS !!!!

Somebody's gonna lose to the Gators in the BCS championship game.. by the way, which bowl is hosting that this year? Lately I've been too caught up in trivial matters such as work and family to keep up with what is truly important.

GO GATORS !!!!


Yeah, why don't you go ahead and lock in your plane reservations and hotel room? Go ahead and buy a ticket to the game.

I'll be glad to take them off of your hands, for a nice discount, when GA takes their place.

:rolleyes::notme:

Fortunately, the MO Tigers don't play the Gators.....but if the Tigers are successful may have the priviledge of losing to them in a bowl.....

GO GATORS!!!

You obviously have the wrong Tigers in mind.... maybe you were thinking LSU or Clemson or ?????

If the alligators tangle with Mizzou...well..... I hear alligator tastes like chicken....imagine that......:lmao:

I can't blame you all for being fans of your teams, but you seem to be overlooking the game of the year when OSU tangles with USC in the third week of the season. I would guess that the winner of that game will be playing in the BCS championship. I would say they will be playing GA but the chances of anyone running the SEC schedule are not very good. So perhaps Oklahoma can run the weak Big 12, Missou fans, your kidding yourselves. I can't blame the Michigan fans who root for the SEC teams when they beat OSU, since Michigan clearly cant get the job done themselves.
MICHIGAN:whip:<OSU

PS. I'm gonna miss Lloydd Carr:truce:But I'm sure Rodrigues will pick up where Lloydd left off!:lmao:

O.H.

...the chances of anyone running the SEC schedule are not very good.
O.H.


You can say that again. Often it is not so much who is the best, it is who is the least beat up.

For the OSU/SC game.....go OSU.....

Then lose, so the SEC can again take our rightful place.....:cool:

UHHHHH.... That's not earning it... that's acquiring it through the back door..:notme:

Of course, we can simply let OSU play a SEC team again.....could be a threepeat for us.....but first, let them beat So Cal.....

Well I'm not sure but I guess thats some kind of compliment. Oh well osu will need all the support they can get on that week.:thanx:

Missouri and West Virginia have the schedules to go undefeated, but would probably get beat down by any of the top 6 teams in the country.

LSU plays in the really loaded SEC and has a young in-experienced QB. They will probably lose at least 2 games and not make the championship

Florida relies on one guy and plays just as tough a schedule. They may go with one loss on the season, but they do not go undefeated.

Oklahoma is the same as Missouri and West Virginia – they play 1 top 10 ranked team (#10 Texas), but would get beat up by any other top 6 team.

That leaves us with the big 3.

Ohio State has 3 really tough road games this year (USC, Wisconsin, and Illinois) but they are loaded with experience and talent. If they beat USC, they may go the whole way undefeated – at least until the championship game.

USC has a tough schedule and is the only team to play all there games against the 6 BCS conferences. (Throwing in Notre Dame) Carroll will go anywhere and play anyone – could be good or bad. If they beat Ohio State, they have just as good of shot to run the table.

Georgia plays the absolute toughest schedule – if they go undefeated they should not even have to play in a bowl – they are the best team in the nation. I think they will at least lose one.

Here is a bold prediction – Ohio St beats USC in Week 3 and USC returns the favor in the championship.

I think you'll have a surprise out of the Big Ten this year, I'm not just talking OSU either. MSU is going to be tough, Wisconsin is tough and UofM won't be a cake walk (give them another year under Rod). As much as it pains me to say it, OSU is the team to beat in the Big Ten.
What gets me is that OSU can make U of M look like a HS team, then U of M will just put a hurting on an SEC team in the bowl games. Just doesn't make much sense.

n866fandp,
You'll miss Carr like I miss Coop!!!!:lmao: It's been hard to watch U of M out coached for the last few years. We were beat times because the other team was just better, but the last few years we got beat because the other team out coached us.
Talent wise, OSU isn't any better than UM. The coach has made a difference. Just look at the App St. game, can't say the Blue was ready for that game.

Here is my best guess on this.....

DAWGS hunker down and beat OSU for the title.....a threepeat.....

And my SEC guesses.....and I do find some painful.....

FL (my Gators) will lose two games in the East.....Georgia and either Kentucky or South Carolina.....but may own the West teams they play.....

The DAWGS will take the East and the SEC.....but may lose to a West team.....

Alabama will take the West, but not without losses, likely to LSU and possibly Arkansas.....but will win the Iron Bowl, which means a winning season.....

There is a potential that the TIDE will upset the DAWGS for the SEC.....

There will be at least 3 SEC teams finish the season in the top ten, likely 4 teams.....

The wimpy PAC-10 has two teams that will beat USC.....one from Arizona and one from Oregon.....and let's not forget that UCLA might also.....

Of course, these are best guesses and I have not calculated the uncertainty for these guesses, though truthfully I am not sure the GUM method would work anyway.....

Rats...

Y'all are talking up the dawgs, and the coach's preseason poll ranks them #1.

So much for sneaking up on folks.

I am afraid to even pay attention to the press releases. There IS a reason they actually play the games. I just wish they would start, already.

So far everyones right.... ;)
that is why they play the games.
The SEC is still the most loaded confrence.
Followed by the big ten
Pac-Ten
and Big 12
However just like every season there are alot of tallented teams in each division. I don't think West-Virginia will be quite so hot this season watch out for Cincinatti, but I didn't think they could pull out what they did last year. Misou. wont be sneaking up on anyone this season. But mabey they don't need the element of supprise anymore. Kansas can't be the real deal...can they???(again it comes down to a good coach) In the SEC Georgia has an impossible schedule, so if they run the table they deserve all the credit. Same for Fla. USC will have a tough schedule, but they should have the tallent to beat up the pac-10. But they notoriously choke down the stretch against someone they should stomp. OSU is clearly the favorite in the BIG-10 however, Illinois, Wisc, MSU, and of course UofM are all rebuilding.
Randy your right the wolverines are a very tallented team, and I'm sure they will get better, I'm just not sure if Rod. will be able to run that offense as effectivly in the BIG-10. However, as a friend pointed out if he can make it work, the rest of the BIG-10 will get better, especailly OSU(they will all have to learn to defend speed, and spread.) hopefully this will prepare them for the SEC.:frust:
:topic:I am willing to make a prediction that App. St. will not catch anyone unprepared this year.:mg:

Coaching is the key. Look at Texas.... how many years have they had the talent but fell way short???? If they played to their talent hype they would be talking dynasty.....:yes:

The Whimpy Pac 10? Let me get this straight - you think 2 teams are good enough to beat one of the top 5 teams in the country - possibly a third (UCLA) and you are calling the conference weak? That makes no sense to me. If Arizona State is good enough to beat USC away, I think they should get enough credit to say they can possibly beat Georgia in Arizona.

Georgia is good - and deserves to be the pre-season #1 - but their schedule is way to tough. I think there will be enough no loss or 1 loss teams that can leap over them to play in the championship.

The PAC-10 has been considered "weak" for a very long time even with USC winning it all. They probably have teams that could give NFL teams a run for their money.

This may be apples to oranges but do you think Boise St. comes from a strong conference? I didn't think so. What about Appalachian St? Other division schools that are ALWAYS playing for their division championship year in and year out? They aren't the best of the best just best of their division.

Being from Missouri, I love how Missouri has turned around....finally. Even with a gimmicky offense that is pass happy and has line splits of 1 yard. Are they capable of winning it all? Absolutely. Will they? I doubt it. I think a lot of it has to do with building a team that can win your conference. If your conference is heavy on run or pass or defense you build for that. You can be a perennial conference champ and get stomped in bowls.

I think the BCS is changing that. It has become important to be a BCS team causing schoools to build better "all-around" teams. They used to play 8-10 games with all but 1 or 2 being in their conference. Nowadays schools are playing as many games as the NFL.

:2cents:

Arizona State beat UGA, I sure hope not. Yes ASU had 10 wins in 2007, 7 in 2006, 7 in 2005, 9 in 2004, and 5 in 2003. UGA in that same 5 year span has gone 11 wins in 2007, 9 in 2006, 10 in 2005, 10 in 2004, and 11 in 2003.

Lets remember ASU 10 wins last year, they played 8 home games and had a super easy non-conference schedule. They DID NOT win a road game against a team with a winning record. Let's not even discuss the Holiday Bowl against Texas :mg:

But as a fan I admire your faith in your team and wish you the best, but I will be shocked if ASU makes a game of it. Don't get me wrong I don't think UGA will go undefeated, but it won't be ASU to knock us out of the race.

This could be the year a three loss SEC tem wins the National championship and would still be the best team in the country!

Goooooooooooooooooooooooooooo Dawgs, Sic' em woooooooooof wooooooof


Oh yeah Boise State? cmon' that is a weak team, UGA destroyed them 48-13 after Boise went 11-1 the year before and they had Zabransky the supposedly God-like quarterback. Same story with Hawaii in Sugar Bowl, when teams want to measure they REAL strength they need to matchup with A good SEC team, lol.

Im not sure where to even start to with this reply. Obviously kaolinchemist has not been reading the whole thread, and you may want to since bigtroy40 is clearly not saying he really believes ASU could beat GA, I think that he was just responding to another post that refered to the PAC-10 as weak. He was saying if that person(hershal) thought ASU UCLA or Oregon was good enough to knock off the number 2 team in the country then that person should also realize they are saying there are at least 2 or 3 teams in the PAC-10 capable of beating teams in the top 5. A confrence with 4 teams capable of beating teams in the top 5 could not be considered "wimpy" by anyones standards. (again refering to someone elses opinion not his own)
I will also go out on a limb and say that the team who wins the BCS championship will most assuredly not have 3 losses! If you believe GA can lose 3 games in the regular season and go to the BCS championship your employer should send you for a drug test.:cool:
You are also misquoting palmer, he was not saying that he felt Boise State was a great team, just the best in their conference!

You have to be careful of U-G-A, they're still mourning the loss of UGA. I was going to say something about the best looking girl on campus, but everyone knows about them GA Peaches!!!

You have to be careful of U-G-A, they're still mourning the loss of UGA. I was going to say something about the best looking girl on campus, but everyone knows about them GA Peaches!!!

Believe me, if you think that is the way that the young ladies in Athens GA look, well not only does someone need a drug test, but also extensive vision screening as well, and please DO NOT drive to the clinic!

Not only are there lots and lots of beautiful girls in Athens, they are smart and sweet, too.

D#$m, to be 18 again...

Oh, and by the way, UGA was male. You are beginning to scare me...

:rolleyes::notme:

Craig, you got it 180 out!!
I got a phone call and really didn't finish that last post. Yes, most of us know about them GA Peaches!!! I was stationed in GA for awhile, had some friends from Stone Mountain, Athens, etc. Actually, ran into Michael Stipe in Athens once (before REM was big, around 88 - 89 time frame).
Been to 4 UGA games there and about 3 in Clemson SC.
I have to say, between TN, SC and GA, you have to look for ugly 'cause it is hard to find.

Craig, you got it 180 out!!
I got a phone call and really didn't finish that last post. Yes, most of us know about them GA Peaches!!! I was stationed in GA for awhile, had some friends from Stone Mountain, Athens, etc. Actually, ran into Michael Stipe in Athens once (before REM was big, around 88 - 89 time frame).
Been to 4 UGA games there and about 3 in Clemson SC.
I have to say, between TN, SC and GA, you have to look for ugly 'cause it is hard to find.

:topic:


Believe it or don't, I worked with Bill Berry in the mailroom at the Athens Banana-Herald when REM was playing Tyrones in Athens, and traveling some. This is when the 40 watt club was lit by a 40 watt light bulb. I even lived in the converted church where REM lived and first played for the public (after they had moved out).

I saw them play a lot in the early days. Once, at Tyrones before a gig, I mentioned to Michael that I was interested in mixing music. He spent about 15 minutes with me showing me how the board worked. Cool.

Bill came into work one night more excited than I had ever seen him. They had just found out that they were opening for the Police in the Fox theatre in Atlanta. I didn't see much of him after that...

Ugly is hard to find in Athens. Hope I can go this fall to look.

I really liked their older stuff, before the MTV stuff.
I almost forgot, I did 3 semesters at Toccoa Falls College too. Now, that's some beautiful territory there.

"You are also misquoting palmer"

I wasn't replying to anyone in general, but simply making a statement about ASU because there are people who feel that ASU is a powerhouse after their 10 wins (suspect) last year. The Boise State comment was to further solidify the argument that I am tired of teams coming out of the WAC or some other weak conference undefeated and being the media darlings. Now granted everyonce in a while their will be a valid cinderella that appears, but for the most part these teams need to be kept out of the BCS.

Don't even get me started on the whole BCS racket, why the NCAA let the control get out of their hands I'll never understand.

Also I was joking about the SEC team with three losses going to the National Championship, I mentioned it because of the two loss scenario last year. But I would say that a three loss SEC team like LSU, Florida, or Georgia could still go toe to toe with most of the opponents in any of the major bowls1

The Whimpy Pac 10? Let me get this straight - you think 2 teams are good enough to beat one of the top 5 teams in the country - possibly a third (UCLA) and you are calling the conference weak? That makes no sense to me. If Arizona State is good enough to beat USC away, I think they should get enough credit to say they can possibly beat Georgia in Arizona.

Georgia is good - and deserves to be the pre-season #1 - but their schedule is way to tough. I think there will be enough no loss or 1 loss teams that can leap over them to play in the championship.

Yes, wimpy.....let's see USC go through an eleven game schedule that includes eight SEC games, which is what the SEC has to do.....USC would likely go 3-5 or at best 4-4.....speed can only take one so far.....

I am tired of teams coming out of the WAC or some other weak conference undefeated and being the media darlings.
I agree, Hawaii comes to mind! The one thing about the WAC is that it is wide open offensive football, lots of points and lots of yards. It can be fun to watch (especially if you take the over/under).
The BCS is not March Madness, you won't see the long cinderella story that they seem to love to follow. So when a little known team, challenges for the spotlight, the reporters jump on it with everything.
I will say this, the way things were going in the BCS last year, it wouldn't have surprised me too much if the College of Charleston was National Champs!:lol:

The Big 12 finished in the rankings pretty darn good last year compared to the other "power" conferences.

Oklahoma- perennial national champ contender need to stay motivated whole season
Texas- ditto
Mizzou- Finally putting together a championship caliber team. Could have played for National title if they could have figured out how to beat Oklahoma.
Texas Tech- Run and shoot points but can "D" do the job
Kansas- was last year a fluke or is Mangino the "guy"?
Okla. St. and Texas A&M are up and down.
Nebraska went in the dumps.
Kansas St. sank after Bill Snyder
Colorado may have finally gotten a coach who can put them back on top.

There are at least 4 and possibly 5 teams here that could make a National Title run if they can survive beating each other up. :2cents:

Question,

Speaking of media darlings, how many losses will Notre Dame have and will they actually WIN a bowl game this year? Because we all know they will dang sure go to one.

The BCS ought to say independents cannot play in BCS bowls, Notre Dame needs to join a conference, and a decent one at that.

Now if UGA still has some players left that are not on suspension, we may have enough to field a team :whip:

Speed is everything in the SEC – a fan of that conference saying you can’t rely on speed forever is like a Big 10 fan saying you can’t rely on the run forever. It is the style of play that drives a conference and makes them build a certain way.

The SEC is built for speed. The Big 10 is built for smash mouth football (Michigan could change that a little). The Pac-10 is built for pro style offenses. Every conference has an identity that makes them different. That is why teams from other conferences cannot go from one to the other and do really well right away.

I think Georgia would lose two games in either the Big 10 or Pac 10 because of the way the teams play. Getting beat up every week in the Big 10, or matching up against a different style of offense every week in the Pac 10, would cause some problems. Same amount of losses with USC or Ohio State in the other conferences – It’s Apples to Oranges.

College football revolves around recruiting. With a good coach and a great recruiting class, they will be top teams for years to come. Georgia, Florida, LSU, USC, Ohio State have all been recruiting gurus for the past few years and look at where they are. But they recruit to face up against their conference – not against other teams outside of those teams in the hopes of playing them in a bowl...

So you think that USC would loose to 4 teams in the SEC, I’m assuming that those 4 teams would be GA, FL, Aub, LSU. No way! I’m no USC fan but how can you say those teams should all be no.2 in the country. This is virtually the same Florida team who lost to Michigan last time they played. LSU is a question mark at best this season, with a quarterback who has never played a down, a defense without its foundation, not to mention its coordinator. I’m sure Auburn will be a good team, but I don’t think they could beat USC. Any one of these teams could beat USC 1 out of every 3 times they played but there is no way all 4 or even 3 of them would beat them in the same year.

I would also like to pose a question to everyone:
If you had to point to one element that Florida and LSU used to beat OSU the last two years, what would it be?

I do agree that the Big 12 is a much better conference than I give them credit for, but to say they have 4 teams who can contend for a Championship is lunacy. For the record Texas is not a perennial powerhouse contending for national championships year in and year out. They had a couple of good seasons. They are a good team, but not national championship caliber. Okla. is a power house I can not argue that, and the conference as a whole is getting much better. I do agree that they beat up on each other all season, :agree:just like the BIG-10.

I don't see how you could say Notre Dame shouldn't be able to play for the BSC title, since they have to schedule top 25 caliber teams just to contend. I don't dissagree that they get plenty of TV time and bowl bids just for being "the ND". But to say they don't deserve to play for a championship is insanity. Look at the first 8 or 9 games of their schedule last season. No one in the nation could have run that schedule undefeated.

It's always been conference 1st. They recently added the bowls 2nd.

But, with national championship pressure schools are having to find a way to build to cover it all. This only helps them be more of a farm league for the NFL.

MLB should have it so good.

I don't dissagree that they get plenty of TV time and bowl bids just for being "the ND".
Yes, just like U of M being #24 in preseason. Come on, even this Maze & Blue fan knows they don't deserve it. After their performance last season (not counting the big bowl win!) and getting a new coach, they have to earn that respect again. The same with ND, they need to prove that they are still that top tier team and not just on Major TV every week.
My 3 favorite teams are Michigan and the teams playing OSU & ND.

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I don't see how you could say Notre Dame shouldn't be able to play for the BSC title, since they have to schedule top 25 caliber teams just to contend. I don't dissagree that they get plenty of TV time and bowl bids just for being "the ND". But to say they don't deserve to play for a championship is insanity. Look at the first 8 or 9 games of their schedule last season. No one in the nation could have run that schedule undefeated.

OMG :biglaugh: Notre Dame lost in 2007 to Ga Tech 33-3, Lost to Navy and Air Force at home. They haven't won a bowl game in what 9 years now. They DON't Deserve it until they join a conference and play with a real league be it whichever league.

Notre Dames 5 year wins trend 2003(5) 2004(6) 2005(9) 2006(10) 2007 (3)

So emphatically NO, they need to WIN and play in a CONFERENCE CHAMPIONSHIP before they EVER let ND go to championship!

WOOOOOO HOOOOOOO....................

I truly LOVE being the resident troublemaker and rabble rouser..........

Yes, USC would be tied to the wall and beaten with a cat-o-9-tails, were they in the SEC.....but only for one season.....then they would be back with a vengence as they would adapt.....but then if they went back to the wimpy PAC-10 they would OWN the PAC-10 outright.....

Big-10 and Big 12 have great football.....but the Big 12 is hurting right now.....won't last.....

Big 10 is always tough.....great football.....

Someone mentioned Notre Dame.....being a fan of Alabama and Florida.....I can only say I respect them.....and hope for the best for them.....unless they meet a SEC team.....

Someone mentioned Notre Dame.....being a fan of Alabama and Florida.....I can only say I respect them.....and hope for the best for them.....unless they meet a SEC team.....


Shouldn't that be "...UNTIL they meet a SEC team..."?

:notme:

One of the things I love and respect about USC is their recruiting, and it's not just about getting players.
Folks, their coach goes into the inner city, at night, by himself, and gives of his time and money for the needy.
You would think that he was the ND coach (being a christian school and all). How much more respect do you need? The man is a leader, a teacher and one heck of a coach.
Plus you can't beat being in Southern California in the winter. As beautiful as Ann Arbor is, I'd take beach sand over winter snow anyday!

Hershal,

It's great to finally meet someone from the west coast who has their football head on straight. :applause:

Now you have to work on the rest of the minions out there :whip:

I know we are biased because we are from Southeast, but that doesn't mean we are wrong!

When you look at the top 15 teams at the end of the year for the past years, there is no argument against the fact that the SEC is the most solid conference.

USC will always be a strong team, I mean what better recruiting tool than ideal weather, movie stars on sidelines, and pretty women?

The only better recruiting tool would be to tell a recruit, "Hey you get to play in the SEC every week against the best players in the nation!"

Keep em' straight Hershal

Folks, their coach goes into the inner city, at night, by himself, and gives of his time and money for the needy.



I watched this show COPS once where guys would go into the inner city by themselves at night to give some time and money to the needy and it got them in ALOT of trouble. :lmao:

Hopefully Pete is not up to that kind of "giving".

When you look at the top 15 teams at the end of the year for the past years, there is no argument against the fact that the SEC is the most solid conference.



I disagree.... I haven't looked up the stats so I'm going from memory...

The SEC, Big-10 and Big 12 are the most solid in placing teams in the top 25 year in and year out... Who has the most placements in the top 25 over a period of time (the last 5 years? 10 years?) would tell who is the most solid and that is only if they a placement significantly higher than the other conferences.

Liking your conference and bragging on them is one thing....Taking the blinders off and looking at the whole picture is another....

I'm not slamming anyone....just show proof that a statement like that is valid... If you're right...then kudos to your conference because you are far superior...

Okay here are some stats:

First, the caliber of players is one way to gauge a conference's strength so lets see:

The Southeastern Conference had 263 players on the 2007 National Football League opening day active rosters, which led all conferences.

The Atlantic Coast Conference was second with 238 players, followed by the Big Ten with 234 players, Pac-10 with 183 players, Big 12 with 176 players and the Big East with 84 players.

Among SEC schools, Georgia was first with 37 former players on NFL rosters, followed by Tennessee with 36, LSU with 33, Florida with 31 and Auburn with 30. Alabama had 21 players on NFL rosters, while South Carolina had 19, Ole Miss and Mississippi State had 17 each, Arkansas had 12, Kentucky six and Vanderbilt with five.

The SEC had five of its schools with 30-or-more-players on NFL rosters. No other conference had two.

Nationally, Miami (Fla.) leads with 46 former players on NFL rosters, followed by Ohio State with 44, Florida State with 41, Tennessee with 36 and Georgia with 35.

Now if you say well NFL players doesn't really mean how strong a conference is how about the ALL-Time Final AP poll which ranks teams by how often they have been in the top 20, top 10, top5 and ranked #1 or 2 www*secsports*com/index.php?s=&change_well_id=2&url_article_id=3891 (REPLACE * with . because it would not let me post hyperlink)

According to this stat 6 of the top 16 All time are SEC schools wow!

What about national champions lets see...

since 1996

1996 Florida
1998 Tennessee
2003 LSU
2008 Florida

So in the past 9 years an SEC team has won three times! and if you go back to 11 years 4 teams have won.

Now it seems that I am not just bragging,and I am not saying the PAC 10 sucks, I am just making a case that the SEC is without a doubt the strongest conference in the land for the last decade and will continue to be strong in the future.

ESPN.com examined which teams were the most overrated and underrated over the last 10 college football seasons by taking a team's preseason ranking in the AP Top 25 poll and compared it to where that team finished the season. Here are the highlights:

Most overrated teams in last 10 years:
1. Florida State (-63)
2. Tennessee (-58)
3. Washington (-42)
4. Miami (-35)
T5. Ohio State (-34)
T5. Nebraska (-34)
7. Florida (-33 1/2)
8. Michigan (-25)
9. Texas (-24)
10. Clemson (-22)

Most underrated teams in last 10 years:
1. Washington St. (+51)
2. Boise State (+48)
3. Oregon (+32 1/2)
4. Arkansas (+26)
5. Wisconsin (+23)
6. Louisville (+20)
7. TCU (+18)
T8. Boston College (+17)
T8. Iowa (+17)
T8. Maryland (+17)

BCS Conferences:
1. Pac-10 (+60 1/2)
2. Big East (+9)
3. Big 10 (+3)
4. SEC (-12 1/2)
5. Big 12 (-78 1/2)
6. ACC (-102)


Which is the top all-time NCAA college football national championship conference?

Listed below and to the right is the order of conferences with the number of college football national championships in parentheses.


Big 12 – (16)

SEC -- (15)

Big Ten -- (13)

ACC -- (9)

Pac-10 -- (4)

Big East -- (3

HERE is a comparison of all conferences.... this last stat is from the SEC sports fan web site...:read:

:2cents:

I am just making a case that the SEC is without a doubt the strongest conference in the land for the last decade and will continue to be strong in the future.

I stand by my statement of the last ten years, but to me your findings further prove my point because ESPN is so biased against the SEC it's not even funny.

Also they use PRESEASON rankings in their analyses :bonk: and Pre-season polls aren't worth crap . I don't think any polls should be released before mid October.

ESPN is the devil! :D

Hershal,

It's great to finally meet someone from the west coast who has their football head on straight. :applause:

Now you have to work on the rest of the minions out there :whip:

I know we are biased because we are from Southeast, but that doesn't mean we are wrong!

Keep em' straight Hershal

I try.....though as soon as some find out I am a multi-generation Southerner they stop listening.....oh well, it is CA after all.....

OK we've beaten the confrence thing like the dead horse that it is.:frust:
How about individual teams. Over the last 10 years few teams have been as consistant as OSU. Say what you want about loosing back to back BCS championship games. But the fact is they were there. Could some one remind me howmany BCS Championship games Georgia has played in over the last 10 years.:nope:

OK we've beaten the confrence thing like the deae horse that it is.:frust:
How about individual teams. Over the last 10 years few teams have been as consistant as OSU. Say what you want about loosing back to back BCS championship games. But the fact is they were there. Could some one remind me howmany BCS Championship games Georgia has played in over the last 10 years.:nope:

Should/could have been in one last year. Maybe they will figure out some way to have a true BCS championship with 2 SEC teams playing.

Oh, by the way (all together, everyone)...

Keep talkin'...

Say what you want about loosing back to back BCS championship games.
But I thought the idea was winning the championship not just getting there!!!! I just had to say it.

You must admit it starts with winning "your" regular season games.:whip:

If Ohio State had played in the SEC the last ten years they would be a Kentucky or Arkansas equivalent, c'mon you CAN't talk about an individual team without discussing their own conference. I believe Ohio State is 0-8 or is it 0-9 against the SEC, Gimme a break, lol.:lmao:

What is a buckeye anyhow? A nut? That says enough ha ha ha ha ha.

I hope you realize this is all in fun and helping in to pump everyone up for this college football season. But if you can't beat a dead horse, what's the use in having a dead horse?

All I can say is watch out for Mizzou. They finished 4th in the polls last year (I think) and have 13 of 22 starters returning. Plus, a Heisman finalist at QB. The year of the Tiger is from the bible belt and not a coast this year....

OH yea! I like to have fun with it.:argue: The truth is that I have great respect for all of the major confrences, and a few of the small ones.
That being said: No way there are more than 2 mabey 3 teams in the SEC capable of beating OSU on a regular basis. I think you may have been joking about that but I just had to be sure.

I also agree that Mizzou should have a pretty good season, and they got robbed last year but I don't see title contention in the near future.

I can't wait for the season to start I only hope its as exciting of a season as last year.:biglaugh:
An oh yeah we are a little nuts up here!

No way there are more than 2 mabey 3 teams in the SEC capable of beating OSU on a regular basis.

I would say that 2-3 on a regular basis would be an accurate statement. :agree1:

One conference I believe may put up a sleeper that sneaks up on us would be the ACC. I don't know which team, but I think we will see a suprise out of the ACC.

As if it wasn't going to be tough enough for Georgia, now we lost our starting Left Tackle for the season :mg:, so this season will definitely require ALOT of :magic: for UGA to run the table, although stranger things have happened.

But I am not betting my QM on it.

stand by my statement of the last ten years, but to me your findings further prove my point because ESPN is so biased against the SEC it's not even funny.

Sorry to burst your bubble, but you were close!
SI.com's Conference Power Index
(Based on a highest possible score of 42)

2003-08
1998-'03



1.
SEC (40)
Big Ten (35)



2.
Pac-10 (29)
SEC (31)



3.
ACC (23)
Big 12 (25)



4.
Big Ten (22)
Pac-10 (21)



5.
Big 12 (19)
Big East (18)



6.
Big East (16)
ACC (17)

That Proves my point exactly the SEC was #1 or #2 in the last ten years. No other conference was in the top two for that 10 year period. The Big 10 was #1 and #4 and the PAC 10 was #2 and #4. Point proven.:yes:

here is a link to article on SI.com "sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2008/football/ncaa/specials/preview/2008/08/11/sec.cpi/index.html"

And here is a snippet from that page:

"Impressive coaching roster key's conference's dominance


The SEC was a solid conference from 1998-2002, second only to the Big Ten in our overall index. Over the past five seasons, however, the league became flat-out dominant, finishing first in three categories (BCS record, percentage of teams in the AP poll and NFL draft picks per team) and second in the other two (non-BCS bowl record and nonconference RPI). The conference captured three national championships during that span (LSU in '03, Florida in '06 and LSU in '07).

Many factors played a part in the conference's rise, none more so than the quality of its coaches. Georgia's Mark Richt (hired in 2001), LSU's Nick Saban (2000) and Auburn's Tommy Tuberville (1999) all began building powerhouse programs. LSU's Les Miles and Florida's Urban Meyer (both hired in 2005) soon followed. And while head coaches' salaries have risen dramatically in all conferences, the SEC's average nearly doubled in five years, from $1.04 million to $1.85 million."


That's the reason Jim Delany (The BIG 10 Power Monger) is SO ANTI-PLAYOFF, because he knows it is NOT the best thing for his conference:

But as he has done with the public outcry, Delany largely has ignored the coaches' call for a playoff. He readily admits a playoff could be good for Division I-A football at large but quickly adds, "I don't work for college football at large

He works for BIG 10 and knows the playoff would not benefit them. Why else would you be against it? Don't dare tell me it's because the poor kids will miss too much school :nope:

Never mind that a playoff is used to determine the football champion in Division I-AA, Division II and Division III, not to mention every other sport sanctioned by the NCAA.

I have said and continue to say that the SEC and the ACC need to drop OUT of the BCS and set up an after season matchup (after conference championships) of SEC #1 vs ACC #1, SEC #2 vs ACC #2 and so on. The SEC and the ACC need to declare that they recognize the winner of the #1 game as the national champion.

As big as the SEC and ACC are in the southeast they would still get lucrative TV deals for their postseason games. Eventually I believe it would discredit the BCS as well because, without the TOUGHEST conference playing in the BCS, the winner wouldn't be unanimous.

It is going to take something drastic like that to break up the powerful BCS racket, if the BCS doesn't adopt an 8 team or more playoff.

I would say that 2-3 on a regular basis would be an accurate statement. :agree1:

One conference I believe may put up a sleeper that sneaks up on us would be the ACC. I don't know which team, but I think we will see a suprise out of the ACC.

As if it wasn't going to be tough enough for Georgia, now we lost our starting Left Tackle for the season :mg:, so this season will definitely require ALOT of :magic: for UGA to run the table, although stranger things have happened.

But I am not betting my QM on it.

The suprise team from the ACC will be North Caroloina!

I have to agree that a playoff system for what used to be 1A.....however, I think the SEC, Big 10, Big 12 and ACC should set this up.....Big 10 and Big 12 really do have good football.....they may be hurting a little right now, but they will get past that.....

Week three (I believe): OHIO STATE SLAMS USC!!!!!!!!!!!!

National Championship: OHIO STATE SLAMMED BY GEORGIA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Just my thoughts of course.........:cool:

Of course, I could be over-estimating other conferences.....

BIG-10: Michigan would be welcomed into the SEC as an equal.....Ohio State would be welcomed also, because we need a few milk runs on the order of Vandy to pad the numbers

Big-12: Missouri would be welcomed just as Arkansas was, just like a convert at a riverside revival meeting.....they saw the light.....Texas would be welcomed as an equal in football, but these guys may ACTUALLY party even harder than us.....can't have that.....Nebraska will NEVER be welcomed after the way they beat the Bear.....

Pac-10: Oregon or Oregon State might be considered, as the lighter side.....then we talk REAL football.....

Conference USA: They actually have a few real teams.....need to watch these guys.....

ACC and Big East: Some serious teams, real potential.....all rebels.....DAMN! We like that!

Independents: Notre Dame, HATED and also respected by Tide faithful.....We do NOT wish them ill, only that they should fall to their SEC Superiors.....

Now, this is my opinion of SEC viewpoints only, not the official SEC viewpoint (at least in public), just me, etc., etc., do I have enough disclaimers yet?

What about Oklahoma?

Oklahoma, how can we forget it! That is one of my favorite Rodgers & Hammerstein musicals.

Oklahoma where the wind comes drifting down the plain...

O K L A H O M A, Oklahoma OK!

what a wonderful musical that was, I never heard football mentioned in the play unless Poor Jud played football. :lmao:

Just kidding I think the Sooners will be one to keep your eyes on.

Mizzou and Texas were mentioned and I think Oklahoma needs to be in the mix as long as Stoops is in the mix.

Sure, OK, and USC, and there have been many years where Michigan State, Wisconson, Purdue, and Penn State would have given any one in the SEC a run for there money, But if the big 10 had to trade, no thanks.
we've already got our own Indiana, and Northwesterns we don't need any SEC teams to take there place at the bottom of the heap!:agree1:

Sure, OK, and USC, and there have been many years where Michigan State, Wisconson, Purdue, and Penn State would have given any one in the SEC a run for there money, But if the big 10 had to trade, no thanks.
we've already got our own Indiana, and Northwesterns we don't need any SEC teams to take there place at the bottom of the heap!:agree1:

Keep talkin'

You might want to check U of M's record against SEC & ACC Teams, for some reason they seam to have their number. It's the B-12, Pac-10, B-10, MidAmerican Conference, etc, etc, that they can't beat!!!:mad:

Don't forget App. State:agree1:

10 days until the trip to the Big House!!!!!
As much as I love football, it just means that the cold is on it's way back. Oh well, Let's GO BLUE!

Don't forget App. State
Opps that's right, they have a hard time beating the Detroit Public School League!!!!!:lol:

You could always open up with Ohio University, or Youngstown State:truce:

So who will Ohio State lose to this time, Georgia or Alabama?

My sources tell me that Alabama may run the West and even upset Georgia.....

Don't get me wrong, I like the DAWGS, but I have my Houndstooth hat ready for November.....and then for January.....

And I have not written off my Gators.....but suspect the DAWGS will take the East.....

BTW, for those who are not SEC fanatics.....the correct pronunciation for the Georgia football team is DAWGS - not dogs - as that is a wimpy West Coast pronunciation.....worthy of Fresno State (watch them this year), but not of Georgia.....

For the Mississippi State folks, yes DAWGS applies to you as well, not the wimpy version.....

I think we should also begin to discuss gatherings for the games also.....let's get real, that is as much a part of the game (at least in the SEC) as the game itself.....well, maybe a bit less, but not much.....

I think we should also begin to discuss gatherings for the games also.....let's get real, that is as much a part of the game (at least in the SEC) as the game itself.
I agree, as much as I love Big Blue football, the tailgates are much better at State.
As for next Saturday, well Utah isn't Youngstown State. I believe it should be a great game. UM has enough talent to beat them, but Utah isn't a bad team.
Plus they run the spread and most of us know what the spread offense has done against Michigan. Texas, OSU, App St. come to mind. A nice opener.
Hershal, have the Gators gotten over that loss to UM last year?????
I had to throw that in. One of the few bragging points I have from last year!!!
I was schooled in ACC & SEC while I was stationed in SC. I think it was Jefferson Pilot TV that ran the games. That was when ESPN was just getting started so regional coverage and the Game of the Week was all you had (other than ND). Then going to Clemson to see a few games, I really got an idea of the passion for football the folks had. It was great.
Great games, great competition, great fans and great times.
Plus that was when Danny Ford could still walk on water!!:lol:
How 'bout them Dawgs?

Dog or Dawg doesn't matter when they are still full of Bull...
:lmao:

Dog or Dawg doesn't matter when they are still full of Bull...
:lmao:

Keep talkin'

LSU and App. St. next week, hum?????? Not 2 years in a row.

GO BUCKS!!!!!!!!!:agree1:
Its about that time!
I can't wait to get up Saturday and watch 4 or 5 straight hours of College Gameday.:bigwave:

Hey, I just got back from an extended vacation so I'm catching up on everything. Here is one statistic that I heard the other day - USC is the only team in the nation that is playing every game against a "Big 6" team (The 6 BCS confrences) - excluding the annual ND game. One thing I have to give to Pete Carrol - He goes anywhere and plays anyone. I think it may be a downfall this year, but give the man some props for not playing Youngstown State or Georgia Southern to beef up those big wins...

Hey, I just got back from an extended vacation so I'm catching up on everything. Here is one statistic that I heard the other day - USC is the only team in the nation that is playing every game against a "Big 6" team (The 6 BCS confrences) - excluding the annual ND game. One thing I have to give to Pete Carrol - He goes anywhere and plays anyone. I think it may be a downfall this year, but give the man some props for not playing Youngstown State or Georgia Southern to beef up those big wins...

Just for my edification, which SEC team is USC playing?

Oh, and ND is really that much better than GA Southern?
:rolleyes::)

Good point, No SEC team BIGTROY. And say what you want about Youngstown State, but in the 2 out of the last 3 seasons OSU has played Texas, Now they have scheduled USC for this year and next year, and in the future they have Va Tech and Oklahoma scheduled, not to mention Miami(of Florida) and to our credit they were still good when we scheduled them.:lmao:

Sorry for the confusion with my last post – what I was trying to say was that all of USC’s games (Except a mandatory game against ND) is against a “big 6” opponent – not each conference. Let’s look at the following “out of conference” schedules for the top teams:

Georgia
Home vs Georgia Southern
Home vs Central Michigan
Away vs Arizona State
I give them props for the Arizona State game, but two other beat up opponents

Ohio State
Home vs Youngstown State
Home vs Ohio
Away vs USC
Home vs Troy
Again, props for the USC game, but the other games will probably be won by 40

Oklahoma
Home vs Tennessee-Chattanooga
Home vs Cincinnati
Away vs Washington
Home vs TCU
Even though they are playing a Pac-10 team, they are the bottom of the barrel in a supposed “weak” Pac 10

Florida
Home vs Hawaii
Home vs Miami
Home vs Citadel
Miami would be the only challenge, but that would have been 5 years ago…

LSU
Home vs App State
Home vs Troy
Home vs North Texas
Home vs Tulane
They play 8 home games this year and only 4 road games – these 4 home games will be easy wins even without an experienced QB

USC
Away vs Virginia
Home vs Ohio State
Home vs ND
ND game is played every year, but the other two are no pushover games…

Now look at these non-conference schedules and tell me which one is the toughest? The SEC teams have an overall harder schedule because of their conference, but when it comes to games that can be decided on outside the conference schedule, which team has chosen the harder route?

OK, I'll give you credit for recognizing UGA's less than stellar out of conference opponents, but that is something that they are trying to address (Arizona State this year, for instance). Not only is Georgia trying to schedule more "quality" opponents, they are also trying to go farther afield (Arizona State, again).

I have seen SEVERAL sports reporters state that UGA has the hardest schedule this year, and with the likely impact that will have on injuries, I am not going to appologise for Central Michigan and GA Southern.

I'm waiting for a team to pull what Notre Dame used to do. Play almost all high quality opponents by scheduling the best of the best. Would it even be possible to pull it off.

Also, by playing these "lesser" teams the university is giving these small programs opportunities to see what playing against top colleges is like and what those facilities are like.

Those small teams can end up becoming big but maybe more so in college basketball than in football.

A team that comes to mind immediately is Marshall. Next is a conference that has or is becoming a power is the MAC. I love to watch the style of football played in that conference.

I have no quarrels with UGA's overall schedule. I have told numerous people that if Georgia runs the table this year they should just forget the national championship game and give the trophy to them. They have the most brutal of all schedules - by far in my opinion.

I was just throwing some more discussion fire out there :)

If they have such a brutal schedule why are they the #1 preseason pick? As a favor? As far as I've heard no one thinks they can win all of their games so it is pointless to pick them #1 if they have no chance of winning them all according to so-called "experts" let alone us college football mongers:tg:


Shouldn't the poll pick the most likely to take it all?:confused:

I'm waiting for a team to pull what Notre Dame used to do. Play almost all high quality opponents by scheduling the best of the best. Would it even be possible to pull it off.

Also, by playing these "lesser" teams the university is giving these small programs opportunities to see what playing against top colleges is like and what those facilities are like.

Those small teams can end up becoming big but maybe more so in college basketball than in football.

A team that comes to mind immediately is Marshall. Next is a conference that has or is becoming a power is the MAC. I love to watch the style of football played in that conference.

I agree it would be great if a team is able to put together a "monster schedule", but there is a big factor working against it. The number of years ahead of time that the schedules are developed makes such an undertaking difficult. We don't know at the beginning of a given year who the "powers" are going to be, much less 2 or 3 years out. Each year, it seems, there are teams that surprise, both for success and the lack of it.

If they have such a brutal schedule why are they the #1 preseason pick? As a favor? As far as I've heard no one thinks they can win all of their games so it is pointless to pick them #1 if they have no chance of winning them all according to so-called "experts" let alone us college football mongers:tg:


Shouldn't the poll pick the most likely to take it all?:confused:

Its simple, really. If everyone wins out (I know, impossible, but humor me) then the Dogs take number one because of strength of schedule. Also, and I realize that this shouldn't play a part, the strength of the last 3 years or so would help in the beauty contest called the national polls, and also appears to lead some to believe that UGA might just pull it off.

I said might.

Preseason polls are meaningless.

I agree it would be great if a team is able to put together a "monster schedule", but there is a big factor working against it. The number of years ahead of time that the schedules are developed makes such an undertaking difficult. We don't know at the beginning of a given year who the "powers" are going to be, much less 2 or 3 years out. Each year, it seems, there are teams that surprise, both for success and the lack of it.

Just look at Nebraska and Miami...:lmao: Used to be no one wanted to play them now there is a line waiting to put some ass whuppin back on them. Kinda like Kansas did last year with Nebraska by dropping 76 on them..:lmao::lmao::lmao::lmao::lmao::lmao: There's a reason for the quote..paybacks are hell.....:lol:

Being from Ohio I get the opportunity to watch alot of MAC football and I agree it can be a blast to watch.:biglaugh:

University of Southern California all the way.

Here's a good one...

Guess what Georgia's first mascot was....


a ........get this..........GOAT!!!!!:lmao::lmao: A ferocious goat was their lucky charm in their 1st game in 1892 against Auburn....:bonk:

Eyeh GOAT, GO GA goats:lmao:

Here's a good one...

Guess what Georgia's first mascot was....


a ........get this..........GOAT!!!!!:lmao::lmao: A ferocious goat was their lucky charm in their 1st game in 1892 against Auburn....:bonk:

I think goats eat buckeyes. And, I won't talk about what happens to buckeyes after that....

No. lets talk about what happens after your beloved goats attempt to eat buckeyes.:notme:
Aesculus glabra — is poisonous. Buckeye nuts contain toxic chemicals: glycosides, saponins and possibly alkaloids. The leaves and sprouts are toxic, too, especially in early spring. If the chemicals are ingested — taken into the body by eating — the ingester may get terribly sick with stomach, intestinal or nervous-system problems. Vomiting, muscle spasms, coma and even death may result. Susceptible animals include cattle, horses and humans. That means you. :truce:
So I will take this to mean if said Ga Goats were to attempt to eat buckeyes they would vomit the buckeyes back up and die!:lmao:
Sounds like a nice way to go, for a goat or a bulldog.:whip:

No. lets talk about what happens after your beloved goats attempt to eat buckeyes.:notme:
Aesculus glabra — is poisonous. Buckeye nuts contain toxic chemicals: glycosides, saponins and possibly alkaloids. The leaves and sprouts are toxic, too, especially in early spring. If the chemicals are ingested — taken into the body by eating — the ingester may get terribly sick with stomach, intestinal or nervous-system problems. Vomiting, muscle spasms, coma and even death may result. Susceptible animals include cattle, horses and humans. That means you. :truce:
So I will take this to mean if said Ga Goats were to attempt to eat buckeyes they would vomit the buckeyes back up and die!:lmao:
Sounds like a nice way to go, for a goat or a bulldog.:whip:

I guess that explains what happened to the goat.

I have heard that the Yale Bulldog might have had something to do with UGA adopting the Bulldog as their mascot, but am unsure if it is true or not.

Not sure about that, however ESPN had a history of uga, the mascot on TV a couple months ago, I missed the begining, but it was interesting.

They did the special cause the dog died and they had to get a replecement...at least that was part of the reason for the story.

It is interesting looking at mascots and the reason behind them....one thing I ran across was that Missouri created homecoming in reference to grads coming back to school once a year kind of like a reunion....I forgot to look at what year it started but I think it was in the '30's

I found this on Wikipedia:read:
The first mention of "Bulldogs" in association with Georgia athletics occurred on November 28 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/November_28), 1901 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1901), at the Georgia-Auburn football game played in Atlanta. The Georgia fans "had a badge saying 'Eat `em Georgia' and a picture of a bulldog tearing a piece of cloth";[1] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Georgia_Bulldogs#cite_note-Stegeman-0) however, it was not until 1920 that the nickname "Bulldog" was used to describe the athletic teams at the University of Georgia. On November 3 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/November_3), 1920 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1920), Morgan Blake, a sportswriter (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sportswriter) for the Atlanta Journal (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Atlanta_Journal) wrote a story about school nicknames for football teams and proposed:
The Georgia Bulldogs would sound good because there is a certain dignity about a bulldog, as well as ferocity.[2] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Georgia_Bulldogs#cite_note-Blake-1)
Shortly thereafter, another news story appeared in the Atlanta Constitution (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Atlanta_Constitution) in which the name "Bulldogs" was used several times to describe the Georgia football team and the nickname has been used ever since then.:agree1:

The USC Trojan was first formed by a college intern at a latex manufacturer in the 1930’s. He was going to USC at the time when the nickname was the USC Hot Cheerleaders or other wise known as the G-String Things. He was trying to talk his boss into the new line of condoms called the Trojans. His boss laughed at him, and he sulked away. When he happened on a “Recruits getting to know the Cheerleaders party”, he seized his opportunity. He started handing out free samples of “Trojan” condoms. As he left the party with nothing more than the lint in his pocket, everyone was chanting “Trojan Man”. Pete Carroll’s great grandfather was there and he thought the name sounded like a good mascot as he had used many of the products himself that day. In 1936 the NCAA barred the use of a condom as a mascot, so the University was forced to use a real Trojan. The rest was history as we know it… :yes:

To catch up.....

Knowing the history of the Trojans will just make it more fun as they receive justified beatings this year.....likely from AZ State and OR or OR State.....I did note someone posted that USC does not play a SEC team this year.....I also note that when they did, it was not one of the powerhouse teams.....Arkansas is good, but at the beginning of the year has trouble.....why did SC not want to open in the Swamp? or Between the Hedges? or in Death Vally, LA? Oh yeah.....they would lose.....I am not sure if they play the Bulldogs this year, but if they do I hope they get beat.....oh, not to be confused with the Dawgs.....Bulldogs here is Fresno State.....

Nebraska will return as a powerhouse, but it may be awhile.....they were powerhouse team in the 80s.....but not really considered quite as good in the 60s.....MO may run the table in the Big 12 this year.....

Still, if App State does beat the Tigers this weekend, I am going to Vegas and put down a bet on South Florida and Fresno State for the National Championship.....

To catch up.....

Knowing the history of the Trojans will just make it more fun as they receive justified beatings this year.....likely from AZ State and OR or OR State.....I did note someone posted that USC does not play a SEC team this year...

Because they are reigning Rose Bowl Champions. Why should they? :lol:

Buckeye nuts contain toxic chemicals: glycosides, saponins and possibly alkaloids. The leaves and sprouts are toxic, too, especially in early spring.
Sounds like some of the women I've met from Columbus!!!:lmao:
I'm, kidding.

USC has a tough game this week. Across country to play VA, not an easy trip at any time of the season.

I can smell the grill already. We start the tailgate tonight, see ya in Ann Arbor!!!!

Have a great weekend folks, but bring 'em home safe.:cool:

I can also smell the wolverine roasting on an open pit from here.:lmao: Although I must admit it's starting to smell a little bit better in Ohio since we nolonger get the back draft of Loydd Carr stinking up the state up north.
I hope everyone is as excited as I am for the season to be underway.:agree:

There has been a lot of discussion on the border war between Kansas and Missouri here in Big 12 country. The buzz is Mark Mangino, KS head coach, just got a contract that pays more than Gary Pinkel, MO head coach.

The buzz is who is the better coach and was it deserving? Mangino was a coordinator for OK before he became head coach and Pinkel was MAC champion coach before going to MO.

They've moved their head to head games to an NFL stadium that was originally thought to be a poor decision for all involved due to KS being patsies in football cause they're a basketball school.

IMHO... KS was a flash in the pan and they got lucky last year and should have NOT been in a BCS bowl game over MO. MO was unfortunate enough to have played OK twice last year for their only losses and the dummies gave OK bulletin board fodder for the 2nd game by stating in papers that they should have beaten OK the 1st time.

I think it really depends on the commitment of the school towards their sports departments as to what kind of sports school they are going to be....has KS made enough of a commitment to become more than a BB school...I don't think so yet. Bill Self, BB coach at KS, took less salary so they coud improve the facilities for sports then Mangino gets a raise that makes him 2nd or 3rd overall salary in Big 12.

It's like a Peyton Place episode...We're wondering how Self feels about the salary thing now.... and is MO going to redo Pinkel's salary due to this and based on the fact his contract nearing it's end and is an old set up that was good at the time it was done...

Will Giligan kiss Maryann? Will the Perfessor get with Ginger? stay tuned....:lmao::lmao::lmao::lmao::lmao::lmao::lmao::lmao::lmao::lmao:

Do think that the demise of ND football is in the making now, because you can no longer see touchdown Jesus from the stands?

On one of the radio shows here, they were talking about the UM/OSU stuff, again.
Some were complaining that Rich Rod hasn't really said anything about it. Since the staffs have changed so much that it's becoming just another game.
I love it, I was brought up a Michigan fan and learned to dislike the scarlet and silver.
I've been to 5 or 6 of the games going back to the '70s, in both Ann Arbor and Columpus. (oops typo):D It wasn't until a few years ago that I didn't feel comfortable at the Horseshoe (I couldn't typo that one, Mark may get mad!). Not that a Wolverine feels great, but from a safety factor.
I'm not saying that it's not the same here for the Bucktooth fans. But things have changed since I started going to the games.
Yes I disliked those colors, the school, the football program. But not Woody, not the players themselves and not the students or the fans.
Just like MSU here. I don't care about the Green & White, unless they play ND or OSU! But to key a car, slice a tire, throw things or fight. No.
I enjoy the games and the ribbing. It's fun.
At the Gator Bowl in '91, we sat in the Ole Miss section and had a blast with their fans. I remenber towards the end the chearleaders are shouting "Fight Rebels Fight", and from somewhere behind us you hear "Might as well fight, they sure as h*ll can't play football"! (36 - 6 MI).
Enjoy the weekend. GO BLUE

I know what you mean....growing up in Missouri you are born with a hatred towards Kansas....:lmao:

It's the blue and crimson gayhawk colors.....:lmao::lmao::lmao:

What the heck is that mascot anyway....:confused::ko: some weird thing...

Because they are reigning Rose Bowl Champions. Why should they? :lol:

Oh well......at least ONE of the So Cal schools has the backbone to take the SEC on head to head.....UCLA opens against Tennessee.....last year was a really good game, even though the Vols lost.....this year should be good too.....

Hopefully the NC State QB is OK.....he took a serious hit last night.....carted off the field and sent to a hospital downtown.....playing South Carolina.....

Alabama opens in the Georgia Dome against Clemson.....should be a good game.....

Send flowers for Hawaii.....they open in the Swamp.....

Oh well......at least ONE of the So Cal schools has the backbone to take the SEC on head to head.....UCLA opens against Tennessee.....last year was a really good game, even though the Vols lost.....this year should be good too.....

Hopefully the NC State QB is OK.....he took a serious hit last night.....carted off the field and sent to a hospital downtown.....playing South Carolina.....

Alabama opens in the Georgia Dome against Clemson.....should be a good game.....

Send flowers for Hawaii.....they open in the Swamp.....

That one So Cal team (UCLA) needs to regroup and prove themselves worthy. USC is beyond that. :notme:

That one So Cal team (UCLA) needs to regroup and prove themselves worthy. USC is beyond that. :notme:

Do you mean that there is no helping them? What a pity!

:notme:

Do you mean that there is no helping them? What a pity!

:notme:

Nice try Craig. ;) The Trojans are the Trojans, and they have proved themselves worthy, numerous times.

BTW: :sarcasm: When was the last time the Dawgs (or even the Wasps/Hornets/Bumble Bees or something :notme:) were in So Cal to play in the Rose Bowl? :rolleyes:

@Craig H.
I'm watching the Buckeyes beat up on Youngstown State on the Big Ten Network. In the middle of the first quarter they changed the ranking for the Bucks from 2 to 3. I looked up the rankings on ESPN and was pleasantly surprised (I've been busy) to find that:

AP: 1-Georgia; 2-Ohio State; 3-USC
USA: 1-Georgia; 2-USC; 3-OSU

After Ohio State whoops USC then all will be right with the world:

1-OSU; 2-Georgia

WOOF! WOOF! See ya in the Championship!

(I know, keep talkin')
-Icy

That one So Cal team (UCLA) needs to regroup and prove themselves worthy. USC is beyond that. :notme:

Yeah, USC is happy with SECOND STRING Big 10 teams like the most recent Rose Bowl.....the first string has had the honor of losing to the SEC.....twice.....

ESPN just announced a $2 Billion deal for the next few years.....

Oh, after having watched some this weekend.....ALABAMA is back.....they could very easily run the West.....MIZZOU is playing Big 12 football, but with ACC speed.....not sure they can quite match the speed of SEC or PAC-10 but they are fast.....

FURTHER UPDATE.....

ALABAMA: used four running backs.....Coffee and Ingram are serious backs.....Ingram reminds me of Johnny Musso in style and Emmit Smith in sheer ability.....nose guard is 365 lbs.....trimmed down from 400 lbs.....several true freshmen are starters.....Wilson (the Junior QB) is much more steady now that he has an offensive live line, receivers, and running backs to help so he doesn't have to run for his life every down.....at the two minute mark it looks like Alabama had over 200 yards on the ground, compared to well under 20 yards on the ground for Clemson.....

CLEMSON: FAST!!!!! They were mostly contained by the Tide but broke free a few times.....

MIZZOU: Good, maybe even great.....but can they stop Kansas, and everyone else who will be gunning for them this year?

MS State beat by LA Tech, and VA State beat by Eastern Carolina.....the TWO historical giant killers for the SEC.....for those who don't remember.....LA Tech and Eastern Carolina used to ROUTINELY hand the helmets to various SEC teams.....and that was before the rest of the country realized that the SEC is - historically - the toughest top to bottom conference (yes, I know the Big 10 and Big 12 will challenge) in the country.....

So far, only ONE of the SEC teams has lost to another conference.....

What happens if Tennessee does what Alabama did with UCLA back in the 70s.....or was it 80s.....? Anyway, each team won both away games and lost both home games.....

We shall see.....

Pitt loses to BGSU and has Buffalo next....how can they win the Big East by going 0-2 in the MAC???

:lmao::lmao::lmao::lmao::lmao::lmao::lmao::lmao::lmao::lmao:

MIZZOU is starting the rollercoaster ride....woohoo....:applause:

One of only 2 games to feature both teams as nationally ranked. Way to start without a patsy.... NOW they can play the patsy's....:biglaugh: If you can call them that...too many snakes in the grass to rear up and bite you.:2cents:

My thoughts on week 1:

How does Georgia Southern score 21 on Georgia? I know they were up 38-0 when they sent most of there reserves in, but Ohio State and USC did the same thing and they gave up 0 and 7 respectively… With the way they are losing starters, they better hope those reserves get better quick.

Even though it was against Youngstown St, Terrell Pryor looked really good. He’s big and fast with a strong arm. If things start going south in the USC game, there will be a lot of talk about getting Pryor in there.

USC was very impressive. Coming from a fan – I still have to say there was no way I expected that. I play in a college pick-em league that accounts for the spread and I picked Virginia to cover the 19 point spread because I thought Virginia would not score much, but neither would the Trojans. I guess I was wrong on that!

I have been stating that Ohio State was too experienced and that they would win this year and USC would get revenge the following year in Ohio once the experience table was turned, but I am starting to rethink – especially if Wells cannot play. I would still pick Ohio St in the game, but it will be closer than I thought.

PAC-10 beat the ACC, the Big 10, and the SEC this weekend. The only out of conference loss was by the worst team to the Big 12. Is the Pac-10 the best conference in the country? No. Do they deserve more respect than what has been given to them? Yes. The results speak for themselves.

Apparently, Rich Rodriguez's losing Terrelle Pryor to Ohio State was a bigger blow to his spread offense than previously expected:

Utah -25
Michigan - 23:lmao::lmao::lmao:

For the second straight year, Michigan loses against one of their unranked, pre-season patsies. Oh, I know, sooner or later, Ohio State is going to get surprised by a really good MAC team from Ohio (BGSU maybe). But for now: :D:lmao: At this rate they'll be lucky to win a game before they play Toledo.

Nice try Craig. ;) BTW: :sarcasm: When was the last time the Dawgs (or even the Wasps/Hornets/Bumble Bees or something :notme:) were in So Cal to play in the Rose Bowl? :rolleyes:

Last year they had more important things to do, like beating Hawaii.

:rolleyes:

(I know, keep talkin')
-Icy


That's right :D

I'm ready to get past GA Southern and the Michigan team (Eastern?) and get to the big boys.

Can't believe I stayed up to watch TN lose last night. It was a good game, I guess, but right now I feel like I could have used the rest...

Yeah what was the deal with Tennessee? Why did they even try to pass the ball, the way they were running it down UCLA's throat? Phil Fulmer's days are numbered I believe.

Now what we need to happen. USC whoop OSU. Georgia whoop ASU Sundevils, then ASU whoop USC then all things will be right in the world once more! :D

I hate that Tennessee couldn't pull out the win, that just feeds ESPN with the ability to say " Georgia's schedule wasn't really that tough, blah blah blah. Georgia program is inferior blah blah blah."

I hate ESPN. :mad:

Go Dawgs

Tennessee played good football from about 2nd half of the 1st quarter till close to halftime.....second half they must have send some other team out.....they should have stayed with the ground game, may have won that way.....

I won't take anything away from UCLA though.....they played a great game 2nd half.....if they play like that all year, they could easily take down USC end of the season.....

I won't take anything away from UCLA though.....they played a great game 2nd half.....if they play like that all year, they could easily take down USC end of the season.....

I am going to use Craig's words here: "Keep talkin'"

I'm gonna go out on a limb and say that UCLA beeting up on a Tennesse team who obviously was not prepared to play, will have no bearing on their ability to beat USC.:bonk:

Spurrier is a great football coach...isn't he? He had this game marked on the calendar because of Vandy beating them last year at home and now they lose again making it the first win by Vandy against a ranked SEC team since '92.

It's not like they haven't had ample opportunity to play ranked SEC teams since '92 either...:tg:

Spurrier is a great football coach...isn't he? He had this game marked on the calendar because of Vandy beating them last year at home and now they lose again making it the first win by Vandy against a ranked SEC team since '92.

It's not like they haven't had ample opportunity to play ranked SEC teams since '92 either...:tg:

I know I shouldn't be like this, but...

There is something about seeing Spurrier throw his visor and get the look on his face like he just ate a lemon that warms the heart. It goes back to his Florida days. I usually don't like to see people in pain, but Steve, well, he deserves it.

yuk yuk yuk.

I'm so bad...

It makes me snicker behind my hand too.....:lmao::o

Wow first Ten. and now SC. That SEC is looking tougher than ever.



After seeing the way Vanderbilt beat up on SouthCarolina in the second half. I'm pretty sure they could beat Georgia or USC for the national title.
:sarcasm:

Wow first Ten. and now SC. That SEC is looking tougher than ever.



After seeing the way Vanderbilt beat up on SouthCarolina in the second half. I'm pretty sure they could beat Georgia or USC for the national title.
:sarcasm:

I would say keep talkin', but at this point, well...

Vandy is in the SEC, too. I wonder if they even play USC this year.

THAT would be a good game.:sarcasm:

I was born in PA, brother went to ND, I moved to FLA and became a Gator. I have always wanted to see USC beat. The SEC is a tough conference with the Tide back in a big way. The Gators have a great coach and super recruiting we'll see if they can rise to the top. I'm sentimental on ND with a class A quarterback and a New Jersey coach who is teaching the pro set. Let's go college season!!!!

I have always wanted to see USC beat.


Everyone usually does want to see USC loose, because they are the best, when it gets down to the Rose Bowls.

It used to be Notre Dame that everyone wanted to see lose. Then Nebraska, Miami, etc.... When a dynasty starts there are many who jump on the band wagon wanting to see them lose.

It's that way with the Patriots in the NFL now....

It's that way with the Patriots in the NFL now....

:topic: ...like the early Steelers. I have always liked the Steelers since I was knee high

Everyone usually does want to see USC loose, because they are the best, when it gets down to the Rose Bowls.

Especially when they play the SECOND string Big 10 team.....

Everyone usually does want to see USC loose, because they are the best, when it gets down to the Rose Bowls.Home field advantage will do that for you.:notme:

Especially when they play the SECOND string Big 10 team.....

Just an example of the mighty Trojans

"Trojan Uprising

Southern California is no stranger to BCS blowouts. Tuesday's rout of Illinois was the third largest margin of victory in a BCS game (since Jan. 1, 1999).-2008"

"Jarrett, the sensational Southern California junior, caught 11 passes for 205 yards and two touchdowns to help the eighth-ranked Trojans finish their season with a statement Monday in a 32-18 romp over Michigan.-2007"

Any comments from the opposition of the Trojans?

You can see the rest of the years of the Rose Bowl here: History of the Rose Bowl (http://www.rosebowlhistory.org/)

GO BUCKS!!!!!!!!!:agree1:
Its about that time!
I can't wait to get up Saturday and watch 4 or 5 straight hours of College Gameday.:bigwave:


Me either. And being a WV Mountaineer, I hope the Bucks kick the crap out of the Wolverines this year!!!!

Any comments from the opposition of the Trojans?With the proper respect to Craig and the 'Dawgs: keep talkin'.

And, since I simply can't resist, let's play the next 20 Rose Bowls in the Big House in Ann Arbor on January 1. I just want to test my home field advantage theory.

With the proper respect to Craig and the 'Dawgs: keep talkin'.

And, since I simply can't resist, let's play the next 20 Rose Bowls in the Big House in Ann Arbor on January 1. I just want to test my home field advantage theory.

It wouldn't be the Granddaddy of all Bowl Games. That is reserved for Southern California and the Rose Parade. The Home field advantage really doesn't have that much bearing...usually it is only 3-3.5 points. 32-18 seems a little more than just home field advantage wouldn't you say?

The Dawgs looked good against a surprisingly good opponent. Central Michigan just got some bad breaks and shot themselves in the foot a few times. They are going to have a good season. I suspect that this was only a hiccup for them.

Who was wearing Ohio State's uniforms? I was surprised/disappointed in their game. They seemed to be in a fog for the first three quarters. They REALLY need to step it up next weekend...

Who was wearing Ohio State's uniforms? I was surprised/disappointed in their game. They seemed to be in a fog for the first three quarters. They REALLY need to step it up next weekend...Just like Central Michigan, Ohio U. was a surprisingly good opponent. Shhhhh...don't tell Coury but did you ever see the "Confuse-a-cat" sketch on Monty Python's Flying Circus? I'm not sure that any of the QBs ran their usual offense. There were true freshman playing defense in the first quarter. Tressel-ball at its finest. You won't see Todd Boeckman running the Pistol next weekend.

Ohio turned the ball over 5 Times and the Buckeyes could only beat them by 12? C'mon geeesh USC is gonna BLOW OUT OSU :mg:. My prediction is OSU will lose by at least 21 points after the way they looked against Ohio combined with the fact that USC had the week off. Wells or no Wells USC is gonna CRUSH them :o. Believe me I have no reason to like USC or OSU but it doesn't take much more than a young simian to know that the Trojans are gonna roll over OSU :2cents:.

The game to worry about for the Dawgs is South Carolina :caution:, although they got beat by Vandy, that doesn't mean they are no good. This is not the Vandy of years past. Bobby Johnson is a very good coach and is turning their program into much more than it used to be :yes:. Remember if Vandy hadn't fumbled the ball last year with little time left UGA would have lost that game in Nashville :evidence:.

The telltale sign if the DAWGS are going to be actually good will be if they can finally open the supersize can of WhoopA$$ on the Gamecocks:applause:. Spurrier seems to have the mojo working against UGA :cool:and we need to not only beat them but beat the crap outta them :whip:. If we lose or we only squeak by then we are in trouble :mad:. But if we clear South Carolina by 21 points or more Look out :bigwave:.

Lastly about Vandy and the people who put them down, I would bet my right AND left nut that Vandy would lay the wood to Notre Dame :mg: :yes: :yes: :yes: :thanx: :whip:.

:evidence::notme::o:tg::D:bigwave::lmao:First of all how can you say taking a team from 10 or 20 degree weather in January to sunny and warm Southern California to play a team in their own back yard is not an advantage. I agree that if an SEC team or PAC 10 team had to come to OSU, Notre Dame, Michigan, or Penn State to play a bowl game, most of them wouldn't even get off the bus.:2cents::nope::bonk::confused::mad::lmao::caution::yes::2cents::whip::truce::argue::topic::sarcasm::thanks::magic::thanx::nopity:.
For the record UGA should blow out South Carolina, I realize its a rivalry but come on have you watched SC play at all this year, Spurier or not. The game UGA needs to watch for is Arizona St.

And I concede that OSU will probably have a long day Saturday, but I will hold out hope:agree1:

Home field advantage will do that for you.:notme:

:lmao::lmao::lmao::lmao::lmao::lmao::lmao::lmao::lmao::lmao::lmao::lmao::lmao::lmao::lmao::lmao::lmao::lmao::lmao::lmao::lmao::lmao::lmao::lmao:

GA may get some trouble from AZ State's speed.....

South Carolina, Florida, and Kentucky are the three that GA has to watch out for.....

Florida started slow.....really bad actually, but started to play football in second half.....Miami played really good considering how young they are.....they will be an exciting team I think.....

Alabama is now 2-0.....They have to watch out for Auburn, Ol Miss, and LSU in the West.....Arkansas is rebuilding.....

I suspect OSU will step it up several notches against USC.....

East Carolina is going to dominate now....:lmao::sarcasm:

But, these smaller conferences are starting to produce...Boise St. comes to mind...parity is coming to college football...

I suspect OSU will step it up several notches against USC.....
They may, but they really didn't impress me. If they were looking forward to this week (easily understandable) they should feel lucky that the game didn't get away from them. They did what they had to do to win (or survive) and I'll give them that. They won't beat USC on talent alone.

The Wolverines better do something this week too. ND won't go away and they won't go without a fight.

As for the WV, I've been a WV fan for years now. Why U of M ended up with both their Basketball and Football coaches is strange.

C'mon geeesh USC is gonna BLOW OUT OSU :mg:. My prediction is OSU will lose by at least 21 points after the way they looked against Ohio combined with the fact that USC had the week off. Wells or no Wells USC is gonna CRUSH them :o. Believe me I have no reason to like USC or OSU but it doesn't take much more than a young simian to know that the Trojans are gonna roll over OSU First of all, keep talkin'. Now, God I hope not because it'll be Trojan this and Pete Carol that from Brent Mustbooger all season. USC beats one team that they should have beaten, takes a week off and now suddenly they're #1. I can understand OSU slipping in the polls but for cryin' out loud, Georgia crushed TWO pansy opponents. The only thing worse than the media love affair with USC when they're on top is when Ohio State is #1. :biglaugh:

First of all, keep talkin'. Now, God I hope not because it'll be Trojan this and Pete Carol that from Brent Mustbooger all season. USC beats one team that they should have beaten, takes a week off and now suddenly they're #1. I can understand OSU slipping in the polls but for cryin' out loud, Georgia crushed TWO pansy opponents. The only thing worse than the media love affair with USC when they're on top is when Ohio State is #1. :biglaugh:

I really hate to continually state that USC is the best team out there. They will drop to the #4 spot,...but finish the year as #1, because they are that good.

There is one team that may beat them 1 out of 2 times and that will be UCLA (:notme:).

I will "keep talkin."


Note: One bad/good thing...I am a BYU Graduate, and not a USC grad.

I really hate to continually state that USC is the best team out there.


Oh, really?

Oh, really?

That post was :sarcasm: Craig. They are the best.

Here is the latest Power Ranking from MSN Fox Sports: Power Rankings Fox Sports/MSN (http://msn.foxsports.com/cfb/powerRankings)

USC Ranked # 2 but will probably take the # 1 Ranking when they beat Ohio this weekend.

I repeat, USC will crush OSU. I will give you OSU +14 and we will bet that if OSU wins I will post that the Buckeyes are truly the best team in the nation, and if you lose, you will just have to dry your tears.

Any takers? :bigwave:

I repeat, USC will crush OSU. I will give you OSU +14 and we will bet that if OSU wins I will post that the Buckeyes are truly the best team in the nation, and if you lose, you will just have to dry your tears.

Any takers? :bigwave:

:notme:

I'm for the Trojans.

BTW, they are favored by 10 points at last I saw. But odds/points change on a hourly basis.

Hopefully, Corso will pick USC.....that will GUARANTEE they will lose.....

Hopefully, Corso will pick USC.....that will GUARANTEE they will lose.....
I don't know about that, he picked the Gators and they handled Miami alright.

Even Corso is allowed a fluke once in awhile.....but every time he picks a SEC team I cringe.....

How about them Tarheels last night laying a beat down on Rutgers!

The real test will be how the fare against Va Tech in thier next game.

:notme:

I'm for the Trojans.

BTW, they are favored by 10 points at last I saw. But odds/points change on a hourly basis.

I just saw the point spread this morning. It is now at 11 points favorite for USC. I guess the Ohio fans will be going home, and looking at it as something great ..."We lost to the Best NCAA Football team. Now let us go back and regroup for the next opponent." ;)

I just saw the point spread this morning. It is now at 11 points favorite for USC. I guess the Ohio fans will be going home, and looking at it as something great ..."We lost to the Best NCAA Football team. Now let us go back and regroup for the next opponent." ;)

Keep...oh, never mind.

We lost to the Best NCAA Football team.
If I ever heard a Big-10 player say that, I'd have to call in his man-card and his uniform. I don't care what team he's on.
There's no way a Buckeye, Wolverine, Hoosier, Hawkeye, Spartan, Boilermaker, Illini, etc. would ever say that about losing to some surfer dudes!!!:lol:
I don't care for OSU, but I don't think USC is the #1 team. Watch what happens to the next #1 during their bye week, I bet they drop out or lose points at the least.
This game should be the total opposite of the ND - UorM game. You could call these 2 games the Haves and the Haves Not!:lmao:

There's no way a Buckeye, Wolverine, Hoosier, CornHusker, Spartan, Boilermaker, Illini, etc. would ever say that about losing to some surfer dudes!!!:lol:

Wow you learn something new every day I can't believe I missed the press conference that announced the Nebraska CORNHUSKERS joined the big 10:D

I am no OSU or USC fan but.... I need USC to beat the ever livin' crap out of the buckeyes for my evil master plan to fall into place.

I do not think UGA will ever be mentioned again on ESPN unless we go into the Alabama game undefeated, difficult YES :yes:, Impossible NO :nope:, but UGA has gotten no respect in the media (ESPN) and hardly any coverage during their collegiate discussions on Gameday and Sportscenter. Now if UGA loses to South Carolina then ESPN has a valid reason to ignore us, but we haven't lost yet. So if we are able to hand the ole' ball coach a whoopin and then travel west and beat ASU, then I believe we will be back in the talking points, although I believe people should be talking now.

It is not even funny how big of a monopoly ESPN has on sports coverage and if they do not favor your team you are doomed media wise.

By the way Georgia is playing the USC Trojans today in soccer although USC is ranked #3 and defending national champs, maybe the dawgs will keep it close. If not, it is the only futbol game that USC could beat the dawgs in ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha.

Goooooooooo Dawgs beat the Cocks!

Well, it wasn't a whooping, but the Dawgs did somehow prevail. I hope there are LOTS of laps and wind sprints in store for the penalized many. I have to say that the TV coverage was lackluster. While we did get to see the "ball coach" frequently adopt the lemon look, we did not get to see a visor flop or headphone toss, both of which I was very much looking forward to.

:notme:


What happened to OSU? Wow.

Keep...oh, never mind.


I will keep "talkin" Craig. USC stomped Ohio and BYU gave UCLA their worse loss in history:

USC 35 Ohio 3

BYU 59 UCLA 0

It is nice to see my USC and BYU Team win!

I repeat, USC will crush OSU. I will give you OSU +14


Oh happy day! The Buckeyes played like they were against an SEC team ha ha ha ha ha ha :biglaugh:

Oh by the way did you notice the SEC owns HALF of the top 10 spots hmmm.

"On Sunday, the SEC became the first conference to place five team among the first 10 in the AP Top 25."

Yea they are not the toughest conference. No way.

Anyhow, the Dawgs eeeeked past Spurrier in what remains a historically low scoring battle. As you remember the SC loss kept us from laying the wood to the Trojans last year for the BCS championship. So even though the win was very ugly, I believe having the South Carolina monkey off our back will help us tremendously. Now comes Arizona State, will we be able to play in 105 degree dry heat. That will be quite interesting, especially since UNLV beat them in overtime.

Well congrats to USC, they look like a well oiled machine. I just hope ASU sneaks up on you.:cool:

In one breath you can say that the media does not respect SEC, and in the next you can say that 5 of the top 10 teams are from the SEC. If the media did not respect them they would not vote them. I realize you are refering to the coaches pole. But I'm sure the AP pole will not vary much. The reason the media was talking up the big 10 and the pac 10 was they had the big matchup this week. I'm sure the attention will be focused squarely on the SEC this week with the FL Tenn. game and the LSU Auburn game coming up. As it typically goes with you SEC fans if the coverage isn't constantly on the SEC you feel disrespected. That may be because untill the last 10 years the SEC didn't really deserve the respect they garner today.
And I haven't heard any one on this thread state that the SEC was not the toughest confrence in college football, just that the other confrences are not totally worthless as you SEC fans may believe.
As for OSU they can stop talking about the national title and settle in to contending for the big10 title. That will be no easy task as Penn St. Wisconson, Iowa, and Ill. all look very tough.

ESPN is the devil of which I refer to the "media", and yes we are proud of our SEC conference. Our commisioner is not scared of a playoff system.

If you watched the OSU game you should know that ESPN/ABC is very rarely pro OSU I'm suprised I could get any comentary on the game between Mushbugers girly giggles, and snotty comments. And he must have been drinking before the national championship game last year, because I actually heard him make a few positive coments about osu during coverage. However they quickly gave him reason to go back to ripping them.
I would be in favor of a playoff system, it would have eliminated the chances of USC and UGA getting to play cake walk teams in BCS games instead of playing eachother wich clearly should have happened. Instead of our traditions causing usc to match up with a clearly outclassed BIG 10 opponent. And UGA playing a team who made it into the BCS by playing a BCS Subdivision caliber schedule.

Yes I agree with you:yes:, we have got to get some semblance of a playoff system. I really cannot believe the NCAA lost control of their most lucrative sport to the dang BCS. The NCAA needs to grow some and take back control of the college football national championship.

As far as the evil media I agree USC is all they care about. They can do no wrong or play no cupcakes no matter who it is. But getting back to the playoff...

Before, IMHO a playoff would truly work, EVERY team (even Notre Dame) would HAVE to join a conference, AND each conference would be required to have a championship game. That would even out a bunch right there. Next I think you would need 8 teams, 4 would leave out some VERY likely winners every year, but who am I kidding, Tom Delooney the super powerful comissih will never go for it unless a Big 10 team always gets a bye to the finals.

Yes I agree with you:yes:, we have got to get some semblance of a playoff system. I really cannot believe the NCAA lost control of their most lucrative sport to the dang BCS. The NCAA needs to grow some and take back control of the college football national championship.

As far as the evil media I agree USC is all they care about. They can do no wrong or play no cupcakes no matter who it is. But getting back to the playoff...

Before, IMHO a playoff would truly work, EVERY team (even Notre Dame) would HAVE to join a conference, AND each conference would be required to have a championship game. That would even out a bunch right there. Next I think you would need 8 teams, 4 would leave out some VERY likely winners every year, but who am I kidding, Tom Delooney the super powerful comissih will never go for it unless a Big 10 team always gets a bye to the finals.


Am I reading some type of anger involved with the way USC is handled via the media?

They are the best NCAA team out there, in my opinion and deserve all the media.

Actually, USC is not hated because of the team or the coach.....it is because of the continuous preferential treatment by the BCS and the media.....watching the sportscasters (figuratively) slobber all over themselves when USC is mention, and at the same time put down any team they may not like and express total surprise when anyone but USC wins a game.....the Dawgs or Eastern Carolina for example.....that is what many of us actually don't like.....the team is a good team.....but as we have seen over the last few years, certainly NOT unbeatable by unranked opponenets.....

GA should be happy.....SC has a good, fast, and hard hitting defense.....

The Auburn - MS State game.....that was embarrasing.....final is 3-2, and while both teams brough their defenses, both teams also sent Pop Warner teams for offense.....if Auburn plays like that against FL, GA, or AL, it is over by end of the first quarter.....

Fresno State put up a good fight too.....

Am I reading some type of anger involved with the way USC is handled via the media?

They are the best NCAA team out there, in my opinion and deserve all the media.

No anger at all, it is just that if you watched ESPN you would think that USC was the ONLY really good team out there. I wouldn't say they are THE BEST but they are definitely one of the best. Remember we do not know really how good/bad OSU really was/is. Not to take anything away from USC, they are really good, but it is too early to say they are the Best. Same goes for UGA, FL, LSU, OK, Mizz, etc. We can start tlaking BEST come closer to October when all the teams have several games under their belts.

For all we know USC may have scheduled a cupcake when they played OSU this year hee hee hee. :lmao:

What ever became of the Reggie Bush agent NCAA violation investigation? Was that closed or just pushed under the rug by THE MEDIA? :biglaugh:

By the way, what weekend is the PAC 10 championship game? Just curious.

GA should be happy.....SC has a good, fast, and hard hitting defense.....


Yeah, and GA also has some guys who need to be lugging the rule book around with them wherever they go this week. Even in the showers. They had WAAAY too many penalties. While there were a few great plays made, the game could very easily have gone the other way.

Also, I must say that the officiating, from what I saw, was quite good, even in the way they handled the play clock SNAFU. They took the time to make sure they got it right on a couple of other calls, too.

:applause:

Oh well, a win is a win.

What happened to UCLA? Is BYU that good this year?

What happened to UCLA? Is BYU that good this year?

BYU is a lot better than they were; and UCLA was "A" Typical. New coach, suppose to have recruited better players and such. They still have a chance, but highly unlikely.

Read BYU's story here: BYU (http://msn.foxsports.com/cfb/teamReport?categoryId=86152&type=InsideSlant)


Here are the latest polls: NCAA Polls (http://msn.foxsports.com/cfb/polls)

No anger at all, it is just that if you watched ESPN you would think that USC was the ONLY really good team out there.
I agree. I enjoyed watch OSU have there collective a$$es handed to them. USC is a great team (although I've thought OSU was overrated, again) but not the only game in town.
ESPN did mention that the SEC is ahead of everyone, but that was all.
We'll see, I just hope MI can qualify for the Motorcity Bowl this year!:lol:

Upset of the week?

I will say...... Phillip Fulmer will somehow pull an Ace from his sleeve and trump Urban Meyer. Fulmer always seems to pull out a huge win when he is in the coaching hotseat. Also look for OSU to gain some respect back eeking out a victory over they MIGHTY Troy! What about Auburn LSU? Hmmm.. As bad as Auburn looked vs Miss State, they are due to have a good game. Good enough to beat LSU? I think not.

This should be a good wekend for football as long as my Dawgs don't nut up in the desert heat. :nopity:

I think we will struggle with Troy.

It looks like the Big12 is shaping up for the Sooners and Tigers again. If the Tigers lose and another Big 12 team is in the top 10 will Mizzou get screwed out of a BCS bowl again?????

ESPN did mention that the SEC is ahead of everyone, but that was all.

They did a LOT better job of covering the SEC during College Gameday this morning, IMHO.

This should be a good wekend for football as long as my Dawgs don't nut up in the desert heat. :nopity:

This morning the ESPN guys were talking about how the long plane trip and the time difference will play against visiting teams with long trips. What they didn't point out was that it is an evening game, which will be cooler than an afternoon game. This may be more important. Hopefully there was a mandatory late cerfew last night to help with the time difference this evening. That and a good nap this afternoon, followed by some complex carbs and fluids might just do the trick.

Oh, and GO DOGS!! Sic 'em woof woof. (Um, this last part is much more impressive in person).

Well, GA looked pretty good. I wonder if there will be any difference in the polls as a result? Not that it really matters at this point.

Upset of the week?

I will say...... Phillip Fulmer will somehow pull an Ace from his sleeve and trump Urban Meyer.

well, now you see why I don't gamble :biglaugh:

So AJ Green looks pretty good for the Dawgs, now it will be interesting to see how USC handles ASU. Boy Tennessee just rolled over and died didn't they. How about Vanderbilt! They deserve alot of credit with their school size.

So far I am not that impressed with the PAC 10 ha ha ha ha just kidding USC fans.

Well, UCLA was at their typical game. It was nice to see AZ beat UCLA.

USC plays at Oregon on 9/25. They will beat Oregon with no problems.

Upset of the week?

I will say...... Phillip Fulmer will somehow pull an Ace from his sleeve and trump Urban Meyer. Fulmer always seems to pull out a huge win when he is in the coaching hotseat. Also look for OSU to gain some respect back eeking out a victory over they MIGHTY Troy! What about Auburn LSU? Hmmm.. As bad as Auburn looked vs Miss State, they are due to have a good game. Good enough to beat LSU? I think not.

This should be a good wekend for football as long as my Dawgs don't nut up in the desert heat. :nopity:

NOT!!!!! :agree1: GO GATORS!!!!!

The speed of ASU and GA was impressive. At the beginning I thought ASU was going to give the Dawgs a handfull, but no.
After watching some of the OSU and MSU games, there was no comparison with the GA-ASU game. The difference was similar to College and Pro ball.
I going to have to watch USC play a good team (I don't think OSU counts as a good team, at least not when they played) to really compare them to GA. I was impressed.
Like they said after the Auburn & LSU game; It shows what talent there is in the SEC, LSU won the BCS and they had 2 loses.

Yes, what did happen to TN???? I can't remember ever seeing them play that bad, they almost looked like the Lions (I say almost because I don't want to insult anyone at TN!!!!)

Well.............

GA at AZ State.....AZ State had speed that gave GA fits at first, but they broke down by the second half.....obviously the DAWGS drank their GATORADE!

FL put the hurt on TN.....in TN.....the Vols are in trouble, but could still be a spoiler for AL or LA.....

Speaking of AL, they put the SMACK DOWN on Arkansas.....this weekend however is the first real hard core test for AL.....they play GA.....Craig will correct me if I am wrong, but I think they are between the hedges.....

Now, who moved up to 1st this week, since USC was idle? Oh, that's right, nobody else gets the preferential treatment from the BCS that USC does.....so USC is the only one who can move up like that.....but don't worry, they will get their comeuppance.....

UCLA is in a hurt also.....so is OR.....

BYU is doing everyone in.....so was East Carolina, who just barely lost this week.....

Auburn did a bit better this week, but STILL does not have their act together with the spread.....still, we saw numerous times when Tupperville went back to the more traditional offence for Auburn.....didn't help enough though.....

OK.....I have heard that GA has broken out the BLACK uniforms.....they have done that only TWICE to my knowledge and both times has resulted in GA doing a SMACK DOWN of the opponent.....one of which was Auburn (what a surprise.....).....

Time for Saban to bring out the white helmets.....everyone since the Bear who has tried that has had it backfire.....but with Saban will succeed.....

Alabama at Georgia is now deadly serious.....Craig, I respect you.....but you - as a SEC fanatic - understand that now (since the uniforms), it is not just football.....you are a DAWG under an ELEPHANT's foot.....

No offense.....

No offense.....

Oh Don't worry, I am sure Knowshown, Stafford, and AJ Green will provide PLENTY o' OFFENSE! :mg:

It will be a very good game, but if UGA can't stop Alabama's running game, it could get ugly.

A night game, ESPN Game Day, and Black Jerseys, and I have tickets wooo hooo I can't wait. :tg:

Speaking of AL, they put the SMACK DOWN on Arkansas.....this weekend however is the first real hard core test for AL.....they play GA.....Craig will correct me if I am wrong, but I think they are between the hedges.....



You are correct that they play in GA, and they are on ESPN for the primetime game, 7:45.

I have to disagree with who will get tested, though... Let's just say it is going to be one heck of a game.

Alabama at Georgia is now deadly serious.....Craig, I respect you.....but you - as a SEC fanatic - understand that now (since the uniforms), it is not just football.....you are a DAWG under an ELEPHANT's foot.....

No offense.....

That dog'll bite you.... (with appologies to the late, great Lewis Grizzard).

Should be a good game.
Hey Craig, be careful. I know this isn't the "Worlds Largest Cocktail" party yet, but I know there will be some fantastic tailgating going on! Since it's a prime time game, remember not to imbibe too much!!!! :confused:
We'll look for you behind Corso, just don't be like that kid last week and start picking your nose when the camera comes by!:lol::mg:

Should be a good game.
Hey Craig, be careful. I know this isn't the "Worlds Largest Cocktail" party yet, but I know there will be some fantastic tailgating going on! Since it's a prime time game, remember not to imbibe too much!!!! :confused:
We'll look for you behind Corso, just don't be like that kid last week and start picking your nose when the camera comes by!:lol::mg:

Speaking of The World's Largest Outdoor Cocktail Party, by the time it rolls around Nov. 1 (assuming neither UF or UGA have stumbled up to that point) that should be the game of the year.

GO GATORS!!

Everyone seems to slam USC. Don't know why. Why is this? Is it because everyone says that USC gets preferential treatment...that's a bunch of malarkey.

Everyone seems to slam USC. Don't know why. Why is this? Is it because everyone says that USC gets preferential treatment...that's a bunch of malarkey.

Aww, Coury, if the heat gets too bad they could always end the talk...

by LOSING!!!!!

The reason every one is talking about them is because they are the best team in the country. :bonk:
The reason every one is favoring them is because they are the favorite.:truce:
I know you SEC fans feel slighted but the only legitemate argument you have is that Oklahoma should not be infront of GA with the weak schedule they play. But the fact of the matter is the SEC teams will need to run the table and or catch some luck from USC or Okla. to make it to the national championship. If both those teams run the remainder of their schedules, the SEC will not send a 1 loss team to the national title game this year.:nope:

I don't think we slam USC, it's not their fault. I slam the media for being "in bed" with USC. It seems that they eat sleep and dream about Pete and his Trojans. That is NOT USC's fault so I do not blame them. They seem to be a good program, but not the ONLY good program as the media would have you believe.

The problem is this: The media already has USC playing against either OKlahoma or Missouri for the championship. It won't matter if Florida, Georgia, LSU are undefeated as well if the (Sooners or Mizzou) and the Trojans are undefeated. They media will PUSH the USC vs Non SEC team.

Especially if FLorida, Georgia or LSU have one loss they will definitely be screwed. I still say a one loss SEC team this year is better than an undefeated Mizzouri or Oklahoma.

My ONLY beef with USC is really a beef with the PAC 10, NO CONFERENCE CHAMPIONSHIP GAME. C'mon PAC 10 grow a pair and play a championship game. That's the only slamming I do and it isn't directed at USC but their conference.

I don't think we slam USC, it's not their fault. I slam the media for being "in bed" with USC. It seems that they eat sleep and dream about Pete and his Trojans. That is NOT USC's fault so I do not blame them. They seem to be a good program, but not the ONLY good program as the media would have you believe.

The problem is this: The media already has USC playing against either OKlahoma or Missouri for the championship. It won't matter if Florida, Georgia, LSU are undefeated as well if the (Sooners or Mizzou) and the Trojans are undefeated. They media will PUSH the USC vs Non SEC team.

Especially if FLorida, Georgia or LSU have one loss they will definitely be screwed. I still say a one loss SEC team this year is better than an undefeated Mizzouri or Oklahoma.

My ONLY beef with USC is really a beef with the PAC 10, NO CONFERENCE CHAMPIONSHIP GAME. C'mon PAC 10 grow a pair and play a championship game. That's the only slamming I do and it isn't directed at USC but their conference.

My personal, highly unreliable prediction: Whichever team wins the Florida/Georgia game (of course it will be the Gators :notme: ) will play for the national championship. It's impossible for both Oklahoma and Missouri to both go undefeated since at the very least they would have to play each other in the Big 12 championship and I just don't see USC running the table.

I hope you are right about one thing (USC losing) and wrong about the other :lol:

Who in the PAC 1+9 will beat USC, I am hoping if anyone it will be ASU.

As far as the UGA - UF game, a key factor will be special teams and right now UGA's kickoff coverage is VERY suspect. The only bright spot in our special teams is our punter and Field goal kicker.

The key to stopping UF is the same as last year, get quick pressure on Tebow and triple cover Harvin and hope you get to Tebow so fast he can't see the other two receivers wide open.

The strategy worked well last year and I hope we can repeat it.

Aww, Coury, if the heat gets too bad they could always end the talk...

by LOSING!!!!!

I hope you are right about one thing (USC losing) and wrong about the other

That won't happen.

Unfortunately with the pastry buffet of a schedule that USC plays mingled with the fact that they don't have a championship game where they would face another cupcake....

USC will most likely cupcake walk to the unbeaten season.

DON"T EVEN TRY TO SAY, BUT WE PLAYED OHIO STATE!

OSU was a frosted vanilla with sprinkles if I have ever seen one.

So enjoy your easy season until UF, LSU or UGA hands you your only loss.

USC will meet UCLA at UCLA toward the end of the season. Last year, UCLA lost and the Coach was fired.

One other team that needs to be watched is: BYU they could be the upset.

This weekend USC is in Corvallis to face OR State.....nice town.....home of the Fox and Firkin pub (oh yeah, I have had a few there).....oh, USC has lost 2 of the last 3.....

I seem to have started a firestorm with my statements of preferential treatment by the BCS and media of USC.....for example, a few weeks back, USC palyed, #1 Georgia was idle, USC moved to #1.....this past week, USC was idle, Georgia played.....oh USC did NOT move.....let's add the last few years (except this one) where USC started the season as #1, no matter HOW badly they were beaten the year before.....nope, no preferential treatment here, no sir.....

Now to IMPORTANT games.....

I predict that Alabama will win.....not by a bunch, maybe only by a point.....and not because of anything Georgia may do or miss.....I predict Georgia will play a nearly mistake free game.....I believe they will simply be overpowered.....this time.....

My new prediction.....forget the other predictions for the National Championship.....could be Alabama and Oklahoma.....OK is fast, exceptionally balanced, hard hitting, tough.....Mizzou is good, but I don't know if they can take OK.....

Some to watch that may come from nowhere.....BYU, So FL (again), Fresno State, East Carolina.....

Auburn better get things together - SOON - or they are in serious trouble.....

Vandy, S Carolina, and Ol' Miss all have good defences.....maybe not a factor this year.....but watch next year.....

AZ State appeared to have a meltdown.....but that may gel them for the rest of the season.....

Just my thoughts.....

Actually USC beat washington St. a couple years ago and fell from the number one spot. When LSU won that same week to take over the number one.:bonk:

Note: One bad/good thing...I am a BYU Graduate, and not a USC grad.
Nothing wrong with that! I didn't know there were other BYU grads here at the Cove. :cool:
One other team that needs to be watched is: BYU they could be the upset.
BYU's scoring has been 103-0 over the last two weeks. I'm definitely pulling for them for the upset...

This weekend USC is in Corvallis to face OR State.....nice town.....home of the Fox and Firkin pub (oh yeah, I have had a few there).....oh, USC has lost 2 of the last 3.....

You really need to try McMenamins on Third St.

As for the Beavs, they lost a lot of talent last year to graduation. USC is lucky they are catching them early in the season. Hopefully, it will be closer than the odds makers say (+25.5).

Now, who is Oregon St.? Looked like USC had too much time off. And Ohio State, Oregon St. just made you look real bad.
OUCH!
Makes the bama - GA game even bigger.

Now everyone can be happy. USC has lost their first.

This weekend USC is in Corvallis to face OR State.....nice town.....home of the Fox and Firkin pub (oh yeah, I have had a few there).....oh, USC has lost 2 of the last 3.....



Guess we can make that 3 of the last 4? :mg:

I liked it. It was a great game, I thought USC was going to come back and get them. They sure tried, never gave up.
But much like the Lions have learned, spotting any team a 21 point lead is tough.
Before you say anything, I think USC could beat the Lions. It was a comparison of getting in a deep hole early, not the success (or lack there of) of each team.
I don't think I've ever seen a game with as many "horse collar" calls. I understand the intent, but it is a contact sport. I didn't see any attempt to injure the player, it's all he could grab. None of the tackles were the grab and fall on the legs, they were no different than if the guy would have gotten a good hit around the shoulders.
I do believe it would have been a different game without a couple of those calls. I don't know if it would have changed the final score, but I do think that 7 points may not have been put on the board for Oregon St.

My hat goes off for Oregon for being the best team at that point in time. The season is still young.

USC and their annual turd.

Now if Ohio State wins the Big 10, they'll be stuck getting stomped by USC again.

Nothing wrong with that! I didn't know there were other BYU grads here at the Cove. :cool:

BYU's scoring has been 103-0 over the last two weeks. I'm definitely pulling for them for the upset...

:topic: Yep, I graduated in 1981 with a Business Degree.

BYU (Ranked # 11) could be the surprising upset for the year.

Well, I am going to wait until late Saturday night, and then, well, you know the drill.

GA by 3 on a wing and a prayer.

To all of those outside the SEC, keep talkin'.

Well, I'll be heading out for the UGA - Bama game in about 2 hours, it is gonna be an exciting tough game. I really hope UGA doesn't make a bunch of stupid mistakes a.k.a dropped passes (Chandler) or blown coverages (R. Jones). If we lose, I want to lose by getting beat not by beating ourselves. Having said that, I believe we will win a close one, maybe by 10 points or so. If either team has a good bit of turnovers, throw all predictions out the window because it could get UGLY for either team. Look for me on ESPN I will be in a black shirt and have on my black UGA hat ha ha ha ha ha ha.

One last word go OLE MISS!!!!!

My hat goes off for Oregon for being the best team at that point in time. The season is still young.

Yeah, it is. Ole Miss beating the large tooth-ed reptiles? In the Swamp? Go figure. It was a good game.

So, now, in the SEC we have Ole Miss and Vandy to worry about, along with the usual suspects.

Sheesh.

Right now TN/Auburn is close in the early fourth. I bet the bookies are about to go nuts.

Oh, yeah. WOOF WOOF WOOF, sic em!!!!!

UCLA drops another one to Fresno State. UCLA now 1-3

Oh yes.....actually, Ol' Miss, Vandy, and So Carolina all have stingy defences.....although it seems Ol' Miss also has an offence.....who knew?

The TN/Auburn game was really really sloppy.....

AL/GA was a GREAT game.....AL won, but GA turned it into a football game in the second half.....it was a good old fashioned butt whoopin in the first half by AL and the same in the third quarter by GA.....the fourth was a real game.....but GA could not catch up they were in too deep of a hole.....

This is not the first time that OR State beat USC when they were ranked #1.....happened in 1967 when the USC running back was the Juice.....and so now OR State is 3 of the last 4 meetings in Corvallis.....personally I think USC went into the game a bit too big for their britches as we would say in the South.....HOWEVER, because of the preferential treatment by the BCS, USC will remain in the top 10.....but they should drop lower truthfully since they were beaten by an unranked team.....

The BCS will not give the same preferential treatment to FL or GA though.....

National Championship is still too early to call, but - COULD - come down to OK/AL.....

#@%*#&*)!!!!!!
:mad::mad::mad::mad:

#@%*#&*)!!!!!!
:mad::mad::mad::mad:

Can you elaborate a little more? :lol:

Stijloor.

:mad:Can you elaborate a little more? :lol:

Stijloor.

Do you really want me to? I have some words that would get me kicked off. The first half...


###%&*@@@!!!!!

:mad::mad::mad::mad:

My Gators stank it up in the most unexpected way... I really thought they had a better defense than that!!

It looks like some of our teams didn't do well this last week.

Dawgs, Gators, and Trojans lost.

For all of you who don't like USC you should be happy, they have dropped to #9, but that won't last long. They will get back to #1.

Watch out for BYU they are looking tough.

Well, I'll be heading out for the UGA - Bama game in about 2 hours, it is gonna be an exciting tough game. I really hope UGA doesn't make a bunch of stupid mistakes a.k.a dropped passes (Chandler) or blown coverages (R. Jones). If we lose, I want to lose by getting beat not by beating ourselves.:truce:


Sounds like you were planning on loosing before you even started. I think GA was is still a good team, they just waited too lated to turn on the offense. They looked like USC (a deer in headlights) for the first half.

I never plan on losing, I just knew that Bama was an opponent that you had to execute your plays precisely and without error. We did not execute worth junk in the first half and it cost us the game.

I will say I believe that STUPID face to the helmet (roughing the QB) penalty that took away our recovered fumble on Bama's first drive was HUGE. You could feel the crowd just sink. It was WILD up until that dang penalty, it was the correct call do not misunderstand me, it was just a stupid mistake by Akeem Dent our young LB. That started the big Momentum swing which steamrolled us in the first half. I must say that they didn't rol over and die in the second half which gives me some hope for the rest of our season.

I will say Alabama has a big @$$ offensive and defensive line and other than playing LSU in Baton Rouge, they may be able to run the table with their talent.

This is one amazing year for football, alot of upsets and probably many more to come. I just hope UGA is not a a part of any more.

Well at least the Gators lost so hopefully the SEC east is still in the picture for us.

It looks like some of our teams didn't do well this last week.

Dawgs, Gators, and Trojans lost.

For all of you who don't like USC you should be happy, they have dropped to #9, but that won't last long. They will get back to #1.

Watch out for BYU they are looking tough.

I visited my daughter at USU yesterday. They are pretty much expecting to be wiped out by BYU next week... :notme:

I visited my daughter at USU yesterday. They are pretty much expecting to be wiped out by BYU next week... :notme:

It will be a good Game. The Battle for Utah is on. I think BYU will beat Utah State.

I like the Pryor-Wells combo in the OSU backfield, should be a tough game at Wisconsin at night this week. Offense and Defense both looked good, 2nd teamers let up two late TDs though.

Mizzou sits for a Saturday and move up in the poll...how nice of the other teams to make way for the eventual National Champ:lmao:

Big 12 has 4 in the top 10?:applause::applause::applause::applause::applause:

Niceto have the recognition. Now they'll do like the SEC and beat the crap out of each other and drop down or out of the polls.

Mizzou has 2 Heismann candidates bu they won't get a sniff of it or a BCS game unless they run the table for the most part. They have been doormats for too long to get any respect yet....but if they keep performing and winning they will.... The offense is exciting to watch but seems too much like Arena football and their running game isn't too hot. The defense...weeelllll....as long as the offense outscores the opponent....:lmao::lmao::lmao:

The 5th down....the kicked pass....etc.... If it weren't for bad luck Mizzou would have no luck over the last couple of decades....but good teams overcome that or don't put theirselves in those positions.

:topic:

I'm in and out here from my house...corporate was/is in Houston and got nailed. The backup plan wasn't tested to keep our intranet running and we're paying the price now...it'll be another couple weeks before it's up again.

I like the Pryor-Wells combo in the OSU backfield, should be a tough game at Wisconsin at night this week. Offense and Defense both looked good, 2nd teamers let up two late TDs though.
I tell you, OSU has me confused. I don't know if they're that good or that bad. Pryor is the real deal, and Wells won't make your backfield bad.
I think the MI game said more about WI than it did about MI. Although the Wolverines may have found their unity and identification in that comeback.
I don't think that OSU is all they're cracked up to be, I could be wrong of course. But I look fom them to have a very difficult time at Camp Randle on Saturday. That is one of the hardest places to play on the road, it's a night game and WI has a tendency to beat OSU when they have no right to. (Kinda like Kansas City Royals and the Tigers).
So I pick WI to beat the bucks, either way, I think we'll see what OSU is.

I'm with you on the Buckeyes, but this year they may be no different then the last couple years. Remember this is basically the same team that rolled through the Big Ten (minus Illinois) last year, and they've added Pryor (significant upgrade at QB). Penn State may have caught up to them in terms of talent.

I think the (trap game) Ohio and (bubble burst game) Troy games were a result of the USC matchup. Ohio State pretty much dominated a much improved Minnesota last week, it was 34-10 before the backups let up the late TDs. I'd venture to say Minnesota is better than Ohio and Troy.

Ohio State was even with USC in terms of stats (OSU actually outgained them), if it weren't for all the damn penalties and the pick 6 the score could've been 14-10 at the half. I'm guessing the second half wouldn't have been the blood bath that it ended up as. If USC showed up to play every game (which we all know that won't) they'd probably roll anyone by 30.

If the TE (his name escapes me at the moment) plays for Wisconsin I think the Buckeyes are in trouble, otherwise I don't see them moving the ball all that well.

It'll probably end up being a low scoring game, I'm thinking a 16-10 score.

I see the Big12 is set up in the polls like the SEC was before they started playing each other. Once the Big12 season begins the polls will shake out after that and then we'll get a truer picture of who deserves what.....

USC redeemed and BYU wins the Utah challenge.