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View Full Version : Average fill label - "e" Mark, probably a UK specific requirement.


Denis
9th June 2008, 10:28 AM
Hi
This may be posted in the incorrect section - if so could the mods please move to the appropriate location for me please.


This is probably a UK specific requirement and concerns the application of the "E" mark to indicate average contents.

At present we fill alcohol into various containers, 500ml,1000ml and 5000ml.
By stating the volume as 1000ml, the bottle must contain equal to / or greater than 1000ml.

I have been asked to make a move to average fill contents - its my understanding that in order to do this the product label must contain an "E" mark to indicate average fill contents.


This would mean extensive changes to product labelling across a wide range of products.

I have been told that the "E" mark is not required.

Any feedback would be greatly appreciated.

CarolX
11th June 2008, 10:04 AM
Hi Dennis,

Sorry you have not received a response yet. Unfortunately, I can not help.

Can any other Covers help with this question?

Denis
11th June 2008, 10:09 AM
Thanks CarolX

I've arranged a meeting with local Weights and Measures officers to discuss the issue.

I would rather be up front on the issue of volumetric dispense and sort out any issues relating to our legal requirements and responsibilities.

I will update the thread with the outcome and resolution of the meeting.

Coury Ferguson
11th June 2008, 10:18 AM
Thanks CarolX

I've arranged a meeting with local Weights and Measures officers to discuss the issue.

I would rather be up front on the issue of volumetric dispense and sort out any issues relating to our legal requirements and responsibilities.

I will update the thread with the outcome and resolution of the meeting.

I am not an expert on this, but my best guess would mean

E= estimated volume

Just my best guess.

Jim Wynne
11th June 2008, 10:30 AM
Hi
This may be posted in the incorrect section - if so could the mods please move to the appropriate location for me please.


This is probably a UK specific requirement and concerns the application of the "E" mark to indicate average contents.

At present we fill alcohol into various containers, 500ml,1000ml and 5000ml.
By stating the volume as 1000ml, the bottle must contain equal to / or greater than 1000ml.

I have been asked to make a move to average fill contents - its my understanding that in order to do this the product label must contain an "E" mark to indicate average fill contents.


This would mean extensive changes to product labelling across a wide range of products.

I have been told that the "E" mark is not required.

Any feedback would be greatly appreciated.

There's a PDF file here (http://nmi.nl/files/dual-system_oimlbulletinjul07.pdf) that might be helpful. It looks like the basic requirement is that a container may not contain less than the average container volume, and that the variation around the average must be controlled within specific limits. The mark is a lowercase "e."

It's an EC thing, but I don't know how it applies, if at all, in the UK.

alex_bell
11th June 2008, 10:38 AM
Take a look at http://www.rdg.ac.uk/foodlaw/label/index1.htm

madannc
11th June 2008, 10:45 AM
From Wikipedia

The estimated sign (℮) is a mark required to be appended to the nominal mass or volume printed on prepackaged goods for sale within the European Union. It certifies that the actual contents of the package comply with specified criteria for estimation:

the average quantity of product in a batch of prepackages shall not be less than the nominal quantity stated on the label;
the proportion of prepackages having a negative error greater than the tolerable negative error shall be sufficiently small for batches of prepackages to satisfy the requirements of the official reference test as specified in legislation;
no prepackage having a negative error greater than twice the tolerable negative error may bear the estimated sign.
The tolerable negative error is related to the nominal quantity and varies between 9% on prepackages nominally 50 g or mL or less, to 1.5% on packages nominally 1 kg or L or more.

The estimated sign looks like a minuscule "e," and its shape is precisely defined by an EU directive. This sign has been added to the Unicode list of characters, just as the symbol for the Euro has been, and can be considered a new basic character in a typeface. It is character U+212E (℮).




Table of tolerable negative errors
Nominal quantity in g or mL Tolerable negative error
5–50 9%
50–100 4.5 g or mL
100–200 4.5%
200–300 9 g or mL
300–500 3%
500–1000 15 g or mL
1000–10000 1.5%


Also link http://europa.eu/eur-lex/en/consleg/pdf/1976/en_1976L0211_do_001.pdf

Stijloor
11th June 2008, 10:50 AM
Hi
This may be posted in the incorrect section - if so could the mods please move to the appropriate location for me please.


This is probably a UK specific requirement and concerns the application of the "E" mark to indicate average contents.

At present we fill alcohol into various containers, 500ml,1000ml and 5000ml.
By stating the volume as 1000ml, the bottle must contain equal to / or greater than 1000ml.

I have been asked to make a move to average fill contents - its my understanding that in order to do this the product label must contain an "E" mark to indicate average fill contents.


This would mean extensive changes to product labelling across a wide range of products.

I have been told that the "E" mark is not required.

Any feedback would be greatly appreciated.

Hello Denis,

The "e" mark is called the "estimated sign."

For more information, look here (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Estimated_sign).

Stijloor.

curryassassin
11th June 2008, 12:15 PM
Hi
This may be posted in the incorrect section - if so could the mods please move to the appropriate location for me please.


This is probably a UK specific requirement and concerns the application of the "E" mark to indicate average contents.

At present we fill alcohol into various containers, 500ml,1000ml and 5000ml.
By stating the volume as 1000ml, the bottle must contain equal to / or greater than 1000ml.

I have been asked to make a move to average fill contents - its my understanding that in order to do this the product label must contain an "E" mark to indicate average fill contents.


This would mean extensive changes to product labelling across a wide range of products.

I have been told that the "E" mark is not required.

Any feedback would be greatly appreciated.

This relates to the Weights and Measures (Packaged Goods) Regulations 1996. Find a leaflet here at the Trading Standards website:

http://www.tradingstandards.gov.uk/cgi-bin/bglitem1.cgi?file=BADV024-1111.txt&msg=mt