My company is attemping to get TS16949.
I am a purchasing executive who manages suppliers and governs specifications of raw material.


I was instructed to get supplier to submit their material SPC or
have Min, Ave and Max on their CoC, inspection report.

Sufficient?

I do not understand what is the co-relation...:cool:

My company is attemping to get TS16949.
I am a purchasing executive who manages suppliers and governs specifications of raw material.


I was instructed to get supplier to submit their material SPC or
have Min, Ave and Max on their CoC, inspection report.

Sufficient?

I do not understand what is the co-relation...:cool:

In case you're not familiar with it, here's what TS16949 (7.4.3.1) says:

The organization shall have a process to assure the quality of purchased product (see 7.4.3) utilizing one or more of the following methods:

receipt of, and evaluation of, statistical data by the organization;
receiving inspection and/or testing such as sampling based on performance;
second- or third-party assessments or audits of supplier sites, when coupled with records of acceptable delivered product quality;
part evaluation by a designated laboratory;
another method agreed with the customer.
What you're being asked to provide is in line with the first bullet, so I'm not sure where your confusion lies. Can you clarify?

All thanks to this consultant my company have...


My company wants Min, Ave and Max data.
Can I ask for my sub material to be exclude from this requirement?
Example glue or carton box material.


PS: Is it compliance if the Min,Ave and Max is more for data collection, no action for it?
In short, suppliers submit, receive and file only, is it okay?

All thanks to this consultant my company have...


My company wants Min, Ave and Max data.
Can I ask for my sub material to be exclude from this requirement?
Example glue or carton box material.


PS: Is it compliance if the Min,Ave and Max is more for data collection, no action for it?
In short, suppliers submit, receive and file only, is it okay?

Look again at the requirements listed in Jim's post. These are various ways you can meet the requirement. Obviously, there are different approaches for different materials. You certainly don't need nor should you require SPC (min, max, avg) for all your raw material and production supplies. Your example of glue and box material are ones where an incoming inspection or certification or maybe a combination of both would be good enough.

Don't require SPC just for the sake of collecting SPC. If it isn't meaningful don't require it. Determine a different way to assure the quality - testing, inspection, etc. (one of the other ways listed by Jim)

Just collecting the data will not satisfy the requirement. You must analyze the data and take action if needed. You will need an action plan describing the action to take should the material not meet requirements. You will need to isolate the material until disposition can be made.

Dave

Look again at the requirements listed in Jim's post. These are various ways you can meet the requirement. Obviously, there are different approaches for different materials. You certainly don't need nor should you require SPC (min, max, avg) for all your raw material and production supplies. Your example of glue and box material are ones where an incoming inspection or certification or maybe a combination of both would be good enough.

Don't require SPC just for the sake of collecting SPC. If it isn't meaningful don't require it. Determine a different way to assure the quality - testing, inspection, etc. (one of the other ways listed by Jim)

Just collecting the data will not satisfy the requirement. You must analyze the data and take action if needed. You will need an action plan describing the action to take should the material not meet requirements. You will need to isolate the material until disposition can be made.

Dave

In addition to Dave's very good advice, note that one of the possible methods to verify purchased product is "receiving inspection," something that your company is probably already doing. When material is received, someone is probably verifying that it is what it's supposed to be, even if that verification involves only matching a packing list to a purchase order. How deep your verification should go go depends on the risk involved. For critical (to your processes and your customers) items the verification will likely be more extensive than it is for "c" items.