Hi,

I have a question creeping.
In IMDS data creation - Tree structure - is material under material is acceptable to all OEM's.

Regards,
Sham:thanks:

That is a broad statement. "ALL".... Same as "never" or "no one".

In general, yes. My clients accepts MDS in this format. Moreover IMDS does not generate a warning for a material under material.

Hi Sham,

Kales is Absolutely right. Let me give an example: consider a colored plastic components here we can declare the masterbatch (Colouring agent) and the basic material independently to form a colored plastic component.

I hope you will understand. If you still have any questions please let me know.

For your reference I am attaching the Recommendation 001 where the Pages from 10-12 explains the correct tree structures.

Bye
Guru

Yea, I know about color masterbatches, PCB and E-mot tree structures which are published by IMDS committee. Other than this if we follow this method of tree structures is it OK.
Eg: one of the supplier had followed for Zinc passivation tree structure
I have also attached a screen shot of a tree structure. Kindly give your views on it.

Hi All,

Kindly give your replies to the above tree structure picture

sham

In my opinion there is nothing wrong with the tree structure you have shown. You should not have any problems submitting this to your Customer.

Tree structure is acceptable to me.

My review would also include:

Have you declared the classification of the materials correctly?
Have you define the applications correctly (if any)?
Do the weights and portion make sense?

I too agree with the tree structure and there is no problem.

As Kales commented please recheck all the details once again regarding applications, portions etc..

Just for informations, can you let us know who is your customer and to which customer you are using this part. Is it OEM or Tier 1 etc.

Regards,
Guruprasad

Hello all, I have a question, all we do is cut and thread a nut. We add no components, subcomponents, heat treat, plate, or chemicals to the part. When a customer asks us for an IMDS number on our PPAP, can we just use our supplier’s IMDS number or do I have to create another IMDS number and just list the material from their raw material certification if you can understand? Thank you and sorry if I misplaced this thread.

Welcome to cove,

I understand that you are the manufacture of fastner for example bolt. If it so how could you provide the IMDS number of supplier.

Do you mean raw material supplier? please be precise and brief so that we can help you.

Regards,
Gurupras

Yes, that is correct. I was referring to my raw material steel supplier. We make a standard weld nut for instance. There is no subsequent operations after we tap the thread. All we do is make the cutoff and tap the thread, that's it. Currently I am waiting for my supplier to submit their IMDS information to me. I also have their material analysys or ladle analysys for the wire or steel coils they provide us.

Hi,

I hope you will only receive the material module sheet from your raw material supplier. Intern you use the material sent by your supplier and create the component by adding this material and the weight of the tapped rod and send the same to your customer who is requesting for IMDS submission.

I hope you have IMDS login ID and the knowledge of IMDS submission.

If you still have any questions or any details required you are always welcome.

Regards,
Guruprasad