Hi,

:bonk: Is it necessary for the OEM's also to put their in-house parts into IMDS database.

sham :)

Hi,

:bonk: Is it necessary for the OEM's also to put their in-house parts into IMDS database.

sham :)

Hi Sham,

I have moved your thread to the right forum to get more responses.

Sunder,

IMDS is only concerned with substances that become part of the vehicle (as in the showroom, as what we buy) in an assembled state.

In-house substances (fluids used for cleaning, other substance in plating baths, quench fluids for example) are not reported in IMDS.

Hi Kales,

Thanks for your response.
What about those in-house parts which are going to be assembled in the vehicle.
I was referring to these parts.

Thanks in Advance,
Sham

Hi Kales,

Thanks for your response.
What about those in-house parts which are going to be assembled in the vehicle.
I was referring to these parts.

Thanks in Advance,
Sham


From the IMDS site:

In the IMDS, all materials used for car manufacture are archived and maintained. Only in this way is it possible to meet the obligations placed on car manufacturers, and thus on their suppliers, by national and international standards, laws and regulations.

Kales Veggie stated:

IMDS is only concerned with substances that become part of the vehicle (as in the showroom, as what we buy) in an assembled state.

The origin of the parts does not matter (purchased or manufactured in-house). If the in-house parts become part of the vehicle, then IMDS requirements apply.

Did this answer your question?

Stijloor.

Sunder,

It is not clear to me what you mean with in-house parts. Can you define what in-house parts are in your case (with an example)?

For example the plastic covers used for car seats to protect car-seats (and are removed prior to sales) and packaging material are not entered into the IMDS database.

If you ship a brake fluid reservoir to your automotive customer, you only declare the reservoir in IMDS and not the brake fluid that is put in at the assembly plant.

If you use water or inert gases for leak testing, these are not declared in IMDS.

Hi All,

Thanks for your responses. My problem is half solved.

Kales,
Some of the inhouse parts are bolts, tension pulley bolt, Crankshaft, etc.....
maybe you can put some more points on this...

one more last question if the OEM doesnt want to enter their parts in IMDS - how to tackle this situation

The question you have to answer is:

What happens with these in-house parts? Are these parts assembled to the final part?

I am not familiar with your part, but it indicates some type of engine (belts, crank, bolts). the answer is yes.

Do you mean supplier to your company with OEM? (OEM is usually the car manufacturer in the automotive supply chain).

Assuming suppliers, you have to work with your suppliers to get them to enter the information in IMDS. If they are unfamiliar with IMDS, you might have to guide and train them. For most automotive companies IMDS has become a part of their standard operating procedure and has become part of PPAP or ISR.

IMDS must be a requirement for your supplier and documented in your supplier quality documentation.

I am assisting an engine manufacturer and its suppliers in North America to create an MDS for a large automotive engine. We are working with some suppliers to train their engineers and technicians in IMDS.

If a supplier refuses to enter information, you have two choices: 1) work with purchasing and resource the part to another supplier 2) create MDS yourself with the material information from your supplier or public sources.

One tip: when you create an MDS, please start at the bottom on the tree (materials and substances) and build it up from there (component and semi-component). For a complex part you should be spending a lot of time offline from IMDS gathering and analyzing the material information.

Hi Kales,

Many thanks for your brief answer. I do have a good experience working in IMDS.
I am working for a OEM, taking care of their IMDS activities.

inhouse parts which i mentioned was - these parts are going to be assembled in the car
and i had a discussion with the concerned and they had felt IMDS was not necessary.

Though I was not convinced, hence i putforth the question to get a clear viewpoint on inhouse parts.

Thanks in Advance
Sham