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View Full Version : ISO 9001:2000 Certificate - How to have a 3 year validity instead of 1?


cmfugen
5th September 2008, 08:42 PM
We are iso 9001:2000 registered and our certificate is valid for one year and some where i observed that they have the validity of 3 years, i wanted to know how this works, to have 3 year validity do we have to do any thing special or that suits to some special catagories only

Stijloor
5th September 2008, 09:03 PM
We are iso 9001:2000 registered and our certificate is valid for one year and some where i observed that they have the validity of 3 years, i wanted to know how this works, to have 3 year validity do we have to do any thing special or that suits to some special catagories only

From what I know, the certificates of registration are valid for a 3-year time period. Are you thinking about yearly (or another appropriate frequency) surveillance audits?

Stijloor.

cmfugen
5th September 2008, 09:16 PM
but what i see on our certificate is it is expiring after one year, i mean the validity is for one year only
thanks

Stijloor
5th September 2008, 09:24 PM
but what i see on our certificate is it is expiring after one year, i mean the validity is for one year only
thanks

What particular industry (sector) are you in that limits the certificate of registration to only one year? I may have misunderstood your explanation. :bonk::bonk: From reading your profile I learned that you are in the automotive business. Is that correct?

Some of my Fellow Covers may have a better explanation. We'll see.

Stijloor.

cmfugen
5th September 2008, 09:36 PM
yes we make parts for mould companies, its like a job shop
thanks

Big Jim
6th September 2008, 05:18 AM
Start by talking to your registration company. They may have made a mistake about one year. If they didn't make a mistake they should be able to explane why it is only for one year.

I'm not aware of any reason for it to be only one year.

Colpart
6th September 2008, 06:34 AM
We are ISO 9001:2000 registered and our certificate is valid for one year and some where i observed that they have the validity of 3 years, i wanted to know how this works, to have 3 year validity do we have to do any thing special or that suits to some special categories only

ISO 9001 certificates are normally valid for 3 years but keeping it is dependent upon continuing to maintain and improve your system which is verified by at least 1 surveillance visit/year. can we ask who your certification body/registrar is?

Stijloor
6th September 2008, 07:36 AM
Could it be possible that the Registrar limited the certificate to 1 year considering the anticipated expiration of ISO 9001:2000 and the release of ISO 9001:2008?

Just thinking out loud....;)

Stijloor.

Ajit Basrur
6th September 2008, 08:12 AM
We are iso 9001:2000 registered and our certificate is valid for one year and some where i observed that they have the validity of 3 years, i wanted to know how this works, to have 3 year validity do we have to do any thing special or that suits to some special catagories only

You can not get a 3 year validity for ISO 9001:2000 version as a new 2008 version is expected by the end of this year and the certifications to 2000 version gets invalid after 24 months of the release of 2008 version.

Refer this Press release - 20 Aug 08 (http://www.iso.org/iso/pressrelease.htm?refid=Ref1152) which states -

Validity of certifications to ISO 9001:2000

One year after publication of ISO 9001:2008 all accredited certifications issued (new certifications or recertifications) shall be to ISO 9001:2008.

Twenty four months after publication by ISO of ISO 9001:2008, any existing certification issued to ISO 9001:2000 shall not be valid.

Your next certificate as per ISO 9001:2008 requirements would be definitely issued for 24 months. :)

Stijloor
6th September 2008, 08:33 AM
You can not get a 3 year validity for ISO 9001:2000 version as a new 2008 version is expected by the end of this year and the certifications to 2000 version gets invalid after 24 months of the release of 2008 version.

Refer this Press release - 20 Aug 08 (http://www.iso.org/iso/pressrelease.htm?refid=Ref1152) which states -

Validity of certifications to ISO 9001:2000

One year after publication of ISO 9001:2008 all accredited certifications issued (new certifications or recertifications) shall be to ISO 9001:2008.

Twenty four months after publication by ISO of ISO 9001:2008, any existing certification issued to ISO 9001:2000 shall not be valid.

Your next certificate as per ISO 9001:2008 requirements would be definitely issued for 24 months. :)

I believe that the OP's organization obtained certification last year.
The limited certification time should have been explained to them....
Maybe the OP can enlighten us....

Stijloor.

Stijloor
6th September 2008, 08:34 AM
We are iso 9001:2000 registered and our certificate is valid for one year and some where i observed that they have the validity of 3 years, i wanted to know how this works, to have 3 year validity do we have to do any thing special or that suits to some special catagories only

When exactly was your certificate of registration issued?

Stijloor.

Ajit Basrur
6th September 2008, 10:52 AM
I believe that the OP's organization obtained certification last year.
The limited certification time should have been explained to them....
Maybe the OP can enlighten us....

Stijloor.

Yes, lets wait for the OP to come back but I doubt that the certificate could have been granted last year. If it was last year, they surely get for 3 years.

cmfugen
6th September 2008, 12:06 PM
Thank you gentlemen, yes, we got the certificate last November and we will have another external auidit in the month of October but i seen very clearly on certificate it is getting expired in the month of november,08.

thanks for your help

Randy
6th September 2008, 12:38 PM
Here's how to get the exactly correct answer.....Dial 1-###-###-#### (use the appropriate phone number for your Registrar) and ask them, because only they know for sure. Additionally, read the contract you have with them because there may be some provision concerning this subject.

You relationship with your Registrar and the specifics about your registration are in your contract, so regardless of what anyone here says it's your contract that will be your guidance.

Sidney Vianna
6th September 2008, 12:59 PM
ISO 17021:2006 implies a 3-year certification cycle in paragraph 9.1.1 The audit programme shall include a two-stage initial audit, surveillance audits in the first and second years, and a recertification audit in the third year prior to expiration of certification. The three-year certification cycle begins with the certification or recertification decision.It is possible, however, that the CB might issue a new certificate after each annual surveillance audit.

There are many possible reasons for a certificate with 1 year validity. For example, the certificate might have been transferred from another CB, and it is common practice to keep the original expiration date.

Esthyl
8th September 2008, 06:19 AM
Thank you gentlemen, yes, we got the certificate last November and we will have another external auidit in the month of October but i seen very clearly on certificate it is getting expired in the month of november,08.

thanks for your help

cmfugen,
You are right, ISO cert has to be renewed every year, cert expiry date is 1 year fr issue date. There will be 2 surveillance audits for 2 consequent years after initial audit, followed by re-assessment (major audit) in the following year. Our co. has just passed the 1st surveillance audit and rec new cert!

According to auditor, surveillance audit will not cover 100%, it's done just to ensure the ISO sys is well maintained, doc are recorded accordingly and have continual improvement in place. Then, 3rd year after initial audit will be the re-assessment audit, it will be a thorough audit that they will look into greater details. :)

Hope it helps! :)