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QAMMAN
23rd September 2008, 08:01 AM
Greetings gurus,

Correct me if I am wrong but I see no where in the TS standard that says I need to document Continuous Improvements on a form.

I have taken this approach for the past three years and have not run into any problems with our registrar or auditors.

It is easy to show evidence for continuous improvements through other documentation such as preventive and corrective actions or other improvements made to the system via action items as outputs from management review or just improvements to the Q.M.S in general.

I have a form left over from QS-9000 that was used for documenting C.I’s. I have left it in our system in the event that I needed it. I would like to remove it.

My question is: is there anywhere in the TS standard that says I need to document C.I’s. or do I just need to be able to show evidence of them?

thanks in advance,

QAMMAN

Stijloor
23rd September 2008, 08:19 AM
Greetings gurus,

Correct me if I am wrong but I see no where in the TS standard that says I need to document Continuous Improvements on a form.

I have taken this approach for the past three years and have not run into any problems with our registrar or auditors.

It is easy to show evidence for continuous improvements through other documentation such as preventive and corrective actions or other improvements made to the system via action items as outputs from management review or just improvements to the Q.M.S in general.

I have a form left over from QS-9000 that was used for documenting C.I’s. I have left it in our system in the event that I needed it. I would like to remove it.

My question is: is there anywhere in the TS standard that says I need to document C.I’s. or do I just need to be able to show evidence of them?

thanks in advance,

QAMMAN

There is no requirement that you have to have a formal document/record showing Continual Improvement initiatives/activities. But you may be able to show "before" and "after" results. For example, trends in charts and graphs that demonstrate improvement. Somehow, you must be able to show results.

This may help: "Auditing Continual Improvement (http://isotc.iso.org/livelink/livelink/3553366/APG-AuditContinualImprovement.doc?func=doc.Fetch&nodeid=3553366)."

Stijloor.

howste
23rd September 2008, 12:13 PM
I agree with Stijloor. There is no requirement for a continual improvement form. I would expect that records for management review and analysis of data would include evidence of continual improvement to the company's objectives. That's what I look for when I audit.

QAMMAN
24th September 2008, 12:19 PM
Thanks guys, thats exactly what I was hoping to hear.

regards,

QAMMAN