View Full Version : Closed or Resolved: Preventive Action for The Cove - 'Post' Button Placement
Sidney Vianna 26th September 2008, 12:31 PM I would like to suggest that, if possible, the "edit" and "quote" buttons, at the bottom of each post to be moved away from each other. Twice now, I pressed the edit button by mistake, when quoting a post. I would suggest moving the "edit" button. All the way to the right, closer to the "thanks" button.
Coury Ferguson 26th September 2008, 12:36 PM I would like to suggest that, if possible, the "thanks" and "quote" buttons, at the bottom of each post to be moved away from each other. Twice now, I pressed the edit button by mistake, when quoting a post. I would suggest moving the "edit" button. All the way to the right, closer to the "thanks" button.
Good point Sidney. It has happened to me a couple of times.
Stijloor 26th September 2008, 12:44 PM I would like to suggest that, if possible, the "thanks" and "quote" buttons, at the bottom of each post to be moved away from each other. Twice now, I pressed the edit button by mistake, when quoting a post. I would suggest moving the "edit" button. All the way to the right, closer to the "thanks" button.
Separating the buttons farther apart prevents "product" mix! :D
Jan.
Marc 26th September 2008, 03:31 PM Hmmmm... Thread Moved to the 'Public' forum so we can get a larger feedback group.
It's a template so it technically can be changed. But... If you missed the quote button and hit the edit button by mistake, what is to keep you from hitting the button on either side of it by mistake no matter where it's located? They're pretty big buttons, and they're different colors.
I've hi-lighted the text of the quote button in red. Does that help distinguish it from the Edit button?
Sidney Vianna 26th September 2008, 03:36 PM Does that help distinguish it from the Edit button?Yes. Thanks.
Hmmmm... Thread Moved to the 'Pubic' forum so we can get a larger feedback group.I guess you mean public forum. I avoid as much as possible the pubic forums.....:lmao:
PS. I believe that the general public does not see the http://elsmar.com/Forums/images/buttons/edit.gif (http://elsmar.com/Forums/editpost.php?do=editpost&p=273553) button in other people's messages. So, it might confuse them. That is why I had it in the Moderator's forum.
Wes Bucey 26th September 2008, 03:38 PM I have a hunch the "style" page which dictates location of the buttons is the same for moderators and the non-moderator whose post is the subject of a potential edit or quote. (What I mean is - the edit button only appears for a regular Cove member on his own posts, whereas moderators view their own posts and other members' posts identically.)
I think I ran into the "click wrong button" thing once or twice in my first month or so of being a moderator, but even then, I recognized something different about the resulting page view and did not proceed to add material to someone else's post by mistake. The danger, of course, is <SNIPPING> parts of the original post as you might do if your intent was to use only a portion of the original post in the quote.
I guess we need a readout from Marc on how the style page is set up and whether it is a big deal to relocate the edit button for EVERYONE (moderator and regular member alike.)
Marc 26th September 2008, 04:07 PM Yes. Thanks.
I guess you mean public forum. I avoid as much as possible the pubic forums.....:lmao: Yeah - I caught it after I posted...
PS. I believe that the general public does not see the http://elsmar.com/Forums/images/buttons/edit.gif button in other people's messages. So, it might confuse them. That is why I had it in the Moderator's forum. They do see it on their posts for about 2 weeks during the 'editing allowed' period, so while it's more of an issue to moderators who see the button on every post, they are still affected.
I have a hunch the "style" page which dictates location of the buttons is the same for moderators and the non-moderator whose post is the subject of a potential edit or quote. (What I mean is - the edit button only appears for a regular Cove member on his own posts, whereas moderators view their own posts and other members' posts identically.)Correct.
I think I ran into the "click wrong button" thing once or twice in my first month or so of being a moderator, but even then, I recognized something different about the resulting page view and did not proceed to add material to someone else's post by mistake. The danger, of course, is <SNIPPING> parts of the original post as you might do if your intent was to use only a portion of the original post in the quote.
I guess we need a readout from Marc on how the style page is set up and whether it is a big deal to relocate the edit button for EVERYONE (moderator and regular member alike.) Correct. Relocating a button relocates it for everyone. Like I say, it's a template which can be edited, but the current setup is so vBulletin 'standard' (not to mention this has been the arrangement of the buttons for years), changing the arrangement is something I hesitate to do.
In general, I have tried to use colors and such for people to 'target' their eyes (and cursor) on, and there is some logic to the current button placement. The 'Thanks' button is a mod which uses 'hooks' in templates, so unless I want to screw with some of the core hook locations (which can have significant unexpected results when a mod is looking for a hook for it to be called and it's not in the expected place), it has to stay where it is.
Coury Ferguson 26th September 2008, 04:24 PM In general, I have tried to use colors and such for people to 'target' their eyes (and cursor) on, and there is some logic to the current button placement. The 'Thanks' button is a mod which uses 'hooks' in templates, so unless I want to screw with some of the core hook locations (which can have significant unexpected results when a mod is looking for a hook for it to be called and it's not in the expected place), it has to stay where it is.
The red does stand out better, but what if a person is color blind?
GStough 26th September 2008, 04:33 PM The red does stand out better...
I don't see any red font for the "quote" button....:confused:
Marc 26th September 2008, 04:34 PM Neither am I able to accomodate the blind. I wish I could make the site available and easy to use for everyone, but.... Reality rears its ugly head.
Marc 26th September 2008, 04:34 PM I don't see any red font for the "quote" button....:confused:
Clear your browser cache.
GStough 26th September 2008, 04:35 PM Clear your browser cache.
:o Ummm...how do I do that? :o
GStough 26th September 2008, 04:36 PM :o Ummm...how do I do that? :o
Never mind...got it! Thanks!! :D
Stijloor 26th September 2008, 04:37 PM :o Ummm...how do I do that? :o
You can hit the "refresh" button in your browser...
Jan.
howste 26th September 2008, 04:40 PM If it's already been a problem, wouldn't this be a corrective action? :notme:
howste 26th September 2008, 04:42 PM Whoa, that red is hideous. Can't we change the Edit button instead? That way us mere mortals (non-mods) won't have to see it as much... ;)
Or can you move the edit button to the lower left corner?
SteelMaiden 26th September 2008, 04:46 PM If it's already been a problem, wouldn't this be a corrective action? :notme:
:lmao::bigwave:That's what I tell my peeps.:notme:just foolin' witcha;)
Marc, the eye-searing red fonts certainly do create a target for us. If I would take a problem like this to my IT, they would tell me POBCAK: problem occurs between chair and keyboard. (or POBCAM, for mouse?) You are ever so much more gracious. Thanks!
Sidney Vianna 26th September 2008, 04:52 PM If it's already been a problem, wouldn't this be a corrective action? :notme:Not in my case, because I realized the problem BEFORE I hit the "post reply" button.
howste 26th September 2008, 05:04 PM Not in my case, because I realized the problem BEFORE I hit the "post reply" button.
But if the problem has occurred before in the system, then wouldn't it still be a corrective action? The title is Preventive Action for The Cove, not for Sidney... :lol:
Marc 26th September 2008, 05:20 PM Whoa, that red is hideous. I took the red out of the " part of the graphic. Is it less hideous now?
Coury Ferguson 26th September 2008, 05:23 PM It looks fine. Either way was fine with me.
I was only thinking here...what if the size of the button or font was larger?
Stijloor 26th September 2008, 05:30 PM Marc,
Just leave it as it was. It's great to get input from all.
But...you need to be careful, otherwise you end up with a Camel.
A Camel is a Horse designed by a committee. :D
Stijloor.
Sidney Vianna 26th September 2008, 05:53 PM This thread reminds me of the How many Elsmar Covers does it take to change a light bulb? (http://elsmar.com/Forums/showthread.php?t=18213&highlight=bulb) :tg:
howste 26th September 2008, 10:29 PM I took the red out of the " part of the graphic. Is it less hideous now?
Less, but still annoying. I can live with whatever you choose though.
Umang Vidyarthi 27th September 2008, 07:30 AM Marc,
Just leave it as it was. It's great to get input from all.
But...you need to be careful, otherwise you end up with a Camel.
A Camel is a Horse designed by a committee. :D
Stijloor.
Good point Stijloor. :agree1: Still let me give my contribution towards the camel.:lol: The edit button will continue to create problem, in whatever the order you place it in the group. So isolation (left-bottom corner is a ready accomodation) for the trouble maker is an apparent solution.:rolleyes:
Umang :D
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